Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Experienced players should k now by now to consider real wheels .

Either you know what you are doing or not .

 

Did you mean use the 'rated-games' and save them? I have been using roulette-simulator.info for years testing my strategies. The reason I trust it, there is no money involved and it would serve no purpose to rig it. A great feature is you can go to Stats and it has record of every single thing that took place during your course of play. The biggest problem I have with testing on Roulette is because of the Zero/s which screw up the patterns. With Craps, I play the Pass and Don't Pass lines just as I would with any EC on Roulette. However, testing with Craps takes takes a lot more time because a single outcome may sometimes take 10 or more rolls to achieve. Yes indeed, if somebody claims to have a winning strategy, it can be demonstrated before our very own eyes on that site. No more bs. Let's see it demonstrated if you're not afraid.

 

The RS rng is indeed questionable, definitely not matching the real wheel dynamic.
Proven several times over with including @TurboGenius' RX-integrated compliance tests.

 

yes, that is how you are able to see every bet.

ooops,,, yes rated games

 

In what way. Did anyone say what it was? I mean I get that it is not a depiction of the physics involved in a real wheel.

 

I checked out the rated-game I played to see what exactly I was doing. It was years ago I played that game and it is nothing like I do now. I just got lucky with that one.

 

It's restricted to $3,000 bankroll at the start of each game. Still there is enough room for 9 steps with a Marti. If I were to use it I know for a fact that I could wait for good spot for it with the three EC's.

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I used to play those rated games all the time, but never saved them. The one that is there, I don't know why I saved it. When I got my strategy to the point it was working quite well and hitting within the 3rd or 4th step, I would start with a 25.00 unit which would only allow me to go 5 steps. I just needed to win 8 hits then I was good for the 6th step after that. My thinking is, if you have a strategy with a good hit rate, the Marti can do wonders. The biggest, and I mean the biggest mistake people make using the Marti (other than having no strategy at all) is not settin a high enough win goal per session. A session win goal should be equal to a bust of the number of steps used. That's why a good hit rate is important, you do not need to use anything above 5 or 6 steps which keeps the sesseion win goal much lower. I am beginning to think based on some of the response I get from those about my use of the Marti, if I really wanted to cuss them out with the dirtiest cuss word I know of, I would say, "Marti you"

 

As you can see with my own RR style I blow away the results of any Marti game.

 

Well Giz, I am not quite sure about that. Your record at rated games shows you played 8 sessions and won a total of 462.00. I just now played 42 spins and won 500.00. KingDavid

 

Do you want me to use huge flat betting next time. I've been using .02% of the 3,000 available as my end goal. I've been making my 3 net wins at 20. I better check out your game and see if your telemetry is there.

 

what you can notice very easily, first-off, are very frequent long 2 dz or 2 clmn streaks -- real casino permanences have rarely longer than 13 spins .. which on RS is a norm, going to 18 spins quite often

 

David, the comparison is done not in money amount, but the effectiveness measured in units made, & thereof units/spin ratio. As far as I have seen Gizmo makes 3-5u/session.

A unit can be a measly cent or eg. 1000 base chip. Duh.

 

Yes, that's very cool. you stopped at 500. I stop at 60 - 50 . Your using a combination of progression and flat betting. I made my three nets wins and stopped. I could move up to 300 bets and stop at 900. That gives me a ten loss headroom. Perhaps that would impress people. It impresses you.

 

But the rare elegant pattern for a sleeping dozen is above 30 in a row.

 

yes commonly. I killed at an Indian Casino on a 33 long sleeping dozen once.

 

KingDavid, it's a great example. Your start value is 25. You aggregated 20 wins. You made 500, and covered 16% of a total bank rolls risk. If you win 6 sessions like that to each lost session then you break even. That is the basis for a valid test. Keep going. That's awesome. The point is to outperform 3,000 units where you are not supposed to be able to do that. I don't think you need 100,000 bets to impress.

 

Actually, you play a much smarter game than I do. Mine is very dangerous as everybody has stated. Starting with a 25 bet and stopping at only a win of 500 falls short of what my strategy calls for. I should have played to a win of 1,600 in keeping with my rules. Doing this, I only need to win one session to cover one complete bust. I really do admire anybody who can get ahead flat betting. It just doesn't work for me. The person who coded my strategy for 50,000 spins, said it only gained +191 units. That's crazy, I would rather take the risk for much larger earnings. As you know, I am only testing this strategy, so in all reality, I am not taking any real risk at all. You see my avatar, that's just lucky me with a pot full of gold painted, fake money chips I have won. But a whole bunch of em.

 

I am not sure what your comment means. I was comparing dollar amount to dollar amount. So, connvert them both to units. I did not count the number of spins for Giz's 8 sessions. Mine was 42 spins. If it took him more spins to earn less, what does that mean? Maybe you are trying to say that he was using a smaller unit bet than me and could have done much better if it were as large as mine. But that's his game, I played mine.

 

I think your math is a little different than mine. If I win 6 sessions X 500 = 3,000. The most I lose with a 25 base bet Martied 6 steps is 1,600. That's 1,400 profit, not break even. But none of that makes any real difference anyway. If I would have played my strategy by the rules using a 25 base unit, I would not stop until a win of 1,600 or a bust, whichever comes first. The 500 win means nothing, it was only 1/3 of where I should have went.