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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I haven't looked at this yet but I've said many times that's the hallmark of RNG's that you'll see things that you almost never see on a real wheel so this makes testing with RNG almost useless.
     
  2. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    What is the link to the SIM, I can't find it. I want to check it out.
     
  3. David Gregory

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    roulette-simulator.info
     
  4. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Let me translate what the reddiamanthe said.

    It roughly translated as
    Your an idiot if you don’t know this simple fact . Stick with kitchen table Marty make believe and honour you post about not posting this thread .
    Your welcome.
     
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  5. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Here you are being a complete ass, not only have you spent pages of abuse to gizmo, spike ( re their methods) and anyone else that has tried to help you with your Marty affliction NOW gizmo is actually demonstrated his process, the very thing you have been begging someone to do for your lazy ass for these past weeks. ALL YOU can do cling to your ego and squirt on about your redundancy betting Marty.

    Either have some grace and
    a) apologise
    b) shut the fuck up and ACTUALLY learn something for a change
    c) stop embarrassing yourself with this continued idiotic posts, your Marty, your selection criteria, your naive grasp of the fundamental aspect of gambling in a professional manner.

    Get over yourself you have nothing to offer. Shut up and learn, do some homework.
     
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  6. Punkcity

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    This should take you to gizmo’s demonstration


    you can access the site through there and sign up for your own account. I used that site for my coffee table thread to demonstrate a simple method of very easy money i used pre Covid lockdown and before I studied gizmo reading random few years back. Cheers
     
  7. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    I will answer in specific terms

    MY PRIMARY targeted game is baccarat, I flat bet on banker or player only, never tie, or any other exotic bet option offered by the casinoverse.

    Full information re bank roll adjustment, unit size increase, chipping up on a streak, exit point summary, be it profit or loss, IS dealt with on the stadium 2019 thread in baccarat forum this site.

    My baccarat bet sizing approach can be used with roulette Ec ……not straight up numbers, dozens, columns, although would be simple enough to adapt.

    the information is on the other thread I mentioned, this is spike EC thread and I’m not inclined to hijack his thread as a matter of principle ( I detest posters hijacking threads as I have posted previous threads this forum )

    Cheers.
     

  8. SPIKE

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    I checked it out and played for a while and just like all true RNG's it's just too random for me. It's missing all the quirks that you see in actuals from a real roulette wheel. Roulette is true random, kind of. A good RNG is just like random.org it's just too damned random. I wish I could explain it, but I have a whole different feeling when I'm playing an RNG, usually frustration. I think it's fine that people are testing systems there but for me it's just not worth my time.
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    I have learned to not care about any differences between fair RNG and actuals. . I don't hunt the massive win streaks anymore. I'm looking for very recent past similarities. Many know that I favor the sleeping dozen and the singles on the weaker side patterns in the EC's. It's easy enough to wait for just these two features alone. But I'm also keenly aware that the finals some times heat up for a burst. Also without a chart I can see the pet grouping for the "Specials" that I created for my own EC bet. I'm a hunter looking for a good looking moving average indicator's starting point. It's easy to see a list of the past spins and to see a swarm of three or four finals. It's no different than any EC bet. I also favor the swarm of singles in the dozens. You can't know that it will work before hand but you can confirm that it is still working in the now situation.
     
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    Did you say something?
     
  11. mansi19896

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    i have same feeling towards all places i can play - does it mean its only possible to win certain places. would be interested to see exact casino place do you play so i can see numbers myself, but probably im not able to enter there from my location to test it out
     
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    I wrote that wrong -- I mean 2 dz or 2 clmn missing streak .. actuals don't pass 13 spins, meanwhile RS rng easily matches that frequently & 18 spins not uncommon at all
     
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    & that's just on the surface, easily observable.
     
  14. SPIKE

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    Good point, we have no idea what's going on in the finer points. All random outcomes are not the same but that doesn't mean they're not random. I trained on actuals from a roulette wheel so that's all I'm really good at.
     

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    I trained on real & my own programmed RNG. That way I know there was no cheating. BTW, I caught Bovada cheating three times. I'm done with them. Perhaps Michigan casinos are regulated? Anyway, I know they don't cheat at the B & M casinos that I was going to.
     
  16. SPIKE

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    I'm not sure how Bovada would cheat. The company who produces the roulette outcomes is totally independent from the 60+ casinos that they provide their product to. They do not have access to who bets on what in those 60 casinos and changing an outcome, cheating, would be very much not in their favor as a business model because it would get out that they cheat and they would have no new customers. So I'm not sure how they would cheat and what their incentive to cheat would be. Do you see what I'm saying? Their customers are not the players their customers are the casinos. I do know that all the major and minor providers are always accused by the players of cheating but as far as I know it's never been shown to be true for any of them because it would destroy their business if even a good rumor was around that they cheated. If I own a casino I certainly would not want to get my feed from a company suspected of cheating.

    I just spent 15 minutes reading articles and comments about Bovada from all over the place and I can't find a single one that gives them anything but a good reputation for not cheating. I know in the comments section at Bovada they are accused of cheating on almost every spin but those people are idiots and they think because they lost they got cheated. In order to cheat they would have to cheat all 60 casinos at once and what would be their incentive for doing that. Because it would not be Bovada that was cheating it would be the firm in Costa Rica that supplies the live feed to all the casinos.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    I know what I saw. And this. You see me winning my ass off at R-Sim. I watched the ball land on 31 and come to rest. Then the image jumps to the wider view and the result was posted as #30. I went from a huge winner to a total loser. I've seen this change many times before. I've had enough. My last few times there with real money has been a disaster and a loss. And every time the numbers change somewhere between the close up result and the wider view video. BTW, on each change I lost. They are not regulated and who knows when and where these outcomes are validated? I can target a single individual and stitch together video seamlessly. Computers that hold video can easily be past posting. Anyway, Covid19 is over, I don't need Bovada.
     
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    BTW Spike. They might not be cheating you but are cheating me. At first I murdered them. I took a $48 start price caused by a limit on first time USA players there way back when and rose to a bankroll of $1,400 in just a couple of days. I have never had a wins streak there again after that. It's not me. It's Bovada. I have never had B & M casinos go all dark forever like this. I'm targeted there.
     
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  19. SPIKE

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    It's easy to check to see if their cheating. If you suspect a certain number was changed just log into one or two or three of the other casinos that get the same feed as Bovada does and match the numbers. This is an extremely extremely closely watched industry by the players cuz there's so much money involved. It would be very odd that Bovada would change a number just to cheat you when they would be so easily busted. I don't know what else to say I'm at a loss. I do know that Bovada in the chat section which is actually a conglomerate of all the casinos that get fed the same feed, after almost every spin somebody accuses them of cheating. I'm sure you've seen this many times it got so bad I turned chat off because it's a joke. If Bovada is cheating they're doing a very good job of it because nobody has caught them red handed. In fact they have one of the most sterling reputations in online gaming. I'm not trying to defend them I don't need them I have 13 other casinos I can play in Michigan. I know that even at brick-and-mortar casinos you constantly here players accusing the casino of cheating in roulette. You hear it so much you don't even hear it anymore.
     
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    That moment of realization .. some take longer than others.
     

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