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I think everyone knew what his answer would be.

 

Soxfan should be able to give ,or pertinent information about Barstow`s principle of diminishing

probabilities .

Also a chapter in Bethell`s book circa 1910.


FRor some people a change of progression and a switch to flat betting .

 

Many of us know the betting system as per Barstow and are making good use of it .

 

If it's not terribly complicated, could you point to where I can read about it?

I cringe when I see the words "betting system". As far as I know no betting system works for any of the casino games since if one did, it would be the hottest thing on the internet and the casinos would go bankrupt.

I guess it's time I start digging into Barstow and see for myself if it makes any sense.

BTW thanks for your input, but you still haven't answered who are the top 3 players on the forum. Hopefully, you will let me know soon. Thanks.

 

Making good use of it is one thing, but are you making money from any of systems?

Not that I'm skeptical much, but it sounds to me like Frank was an investor who lost a ton in casinos and since he couldn't beat the casinos himself he wrote a book to make the money back he lost in casinos. In turn, he caused more people to lose money following his systems, no?

That's the way I see it and I am a very common sensed guy.

Also, his book rating isn't so hot by readers. It's only 3.5 out of 5.

The way I see it, if any system worked so great, then it will be known to everyone in an instant and everybody will be doing it. Since I've never heard of any of his system, none of them really work to win consistently.

Punkcity's full strategy on the other hand, I am very curious of as they make total sense to me whatever they may be. I wouldn't call it a system but a strategy along with many other things it could be called.

 

I am a recreational player but only at top casinos .Recreation for a reasonable price .


Those 3 players I mentioned are only based my interpretation of their posts .


Nobody is a an expert in a game of 100 % Luck and 0 % strategy .

The Barstow is a shortened 3 or 4 step Martingale but kept in the closet .


No baccarat game experts .

 

Who are the 3 player names? I don't remember seeing any of your posts with top 3 players' names.

Since I cannot see your profile page, I cannot quickly see what you've posted in the past to see if you posted their names.

 

If that's the case, am I wasting time trying to create a strategy based on what's posted in Punkcity's stadium 2019 thread?

I would like to believe everything he said on his thread especially his success which to be honest is quite unbelievable.

I guess at this point, I have to consolidate my notes and go ahead and try it in full and see what happens. I was hoping to get some last pieces from Punkcity to try exactly what he did to have his success in 2019, but for now I guess what I have so far will have to do and hope it works.

 

I never posted those names. I just read their posts.

" It was a matter of thoughts that does not sound so bad .


Not interested in that stadium play. But reading many of Punks other posts .

 

Hmmm, I'm slowly getting to the point that the casino gambling just may not be worth it even with the opportunity that I have now living in casinos.

I haven't tried in full of what information I've gotten from Punkcity's stadium play thread, so I will give that a full time try before I decide what to do next. If it works, then obviously I will continue. If it doesn't work, then that's that.

I will move onto sports betting or card counting for blackjack.

 

Many are playing the Barstow principle without admitting it .


Since I am not a system maker I shall not post the full scenario.

 

I see. But are they winning? My guess is "NO". Barstow's systems probably have some success, but I'm sure none of them are consistent winners.

My brother's friend is autistic and he has an ability to laser focus on everything he does.

He tried everything in the world about Baccarat and in the last couple of years he made $160,000 in 18 months, which by the way is only like 10% success rate compared to Punkcity's. He bought a Prius with cash and right after he proceed to lose the remainder of the winnings in a matter of days. Whatever he does is NOT flat betting and my younger brother still plays that system and I've seen him get burned so fast for rather large bankrolls.

He still plays baccarat but whatever his system is, if it leads to that type of huge loss at any point then it's just not worth it even if it won him so much initially.

At least he still has his Prius.

 

What do you think Soxfan does ? He plays Banker only and will not admit to the


the Barstow martingale system approach . A Winnah !

 

LOL

That means he is a long term loser.

 

An unbiased book review for Barstow's 'Beat The Casino''

Frank Barstow is a retired Wall Street investment banker, who tries to give the impression gambling on casino games would be comparable to buying stock. This is incorrect because although both disciplines (speculating on the stock market and playing casino games) do have a risk element; world economy can by far not be compared to a casino game. The casino player knows from the very beginning his risk (investing in a casino game) will not be rewarded fairly. The stock broker on the other hand, when investing in a company that delivers decent products and services has a fairly good chance the stock will raise over time.

‘Beat The Casino’ is however a classic and it’s also the only reason why we’ve included it in our review section. The title is as misleading as it gets, because there are no long term winning systems in this book, hence you could not ‘Beat The Casino’ with the content of this book, but you could have a good -and expensive- time trying.

Barstow reviews a multitude of classic and his own roulette, craps and blackjack systems, and it’s fair to say, despite the misleading title, Barstow points out there IS risk involved. On the other hand, the demonstration session (in which Barstow of course wins) is misleading, since the sample size (the amount of spins played) is far too low to analyze if this is a winning system. Had Barstow however played for thousands of spins – comparable to a couple of months playing for the regular casino visitor, Barstow would have found out himself he had no chance to ‘Beat The Casino’.

We do have a problem with books like these because for the less critical reader who is attracted to the suggestive title, the content simply does not deliver to the statement on the front cover.

For entertainment value this is a great book: system players will find an enormous collection of old and new systems and might find inspiration to spice up their own playing style.

If you choose to gamble, playing a system can still be preferred to playing random, because the system player in general remains more aware of the money management and objectives, and hopefully when the system busts to call it a day.

 

For balance, I will add this as well!

Barstow system is a very impressive system. Frank Barstow said, if it is not impressive, I wouldn’t lend my name to this system. It is up two units when won, down one unit when lose. The numbers are 1,2,3,5,7,9,11.

I have tested this series before. If played randomly or played all bets, I lose exactly the casino odds. However, when I synchronize the system with bet selection, the results produce a nice profit about the same as Barstow’s result as mentioned in his book. My bet selection capitalize on streaks. In baccarat, if I see 2-2, I continue with 2-2, if 2-1, I continue with 2-1, if player streak, I continue with player streak, if banker streak, I continue with banker streak, if 3-2, I play 3-2, if 1-1, I play 1-1 and so on. If player dominance, I play only player. If banker dominance, I play only banker. If I cannot see any streak, I sit out. I do not use small road, big road, six road, cockroach, etc because I think it is unnecessary.

 

Soxfan seems to know. He is a sharp cat .


I was ready to post some details about rhe Barstow. But FORGET it .





You blew it with your LOL.

 

Wow!
Great posts.

 

I never red any books by Barstow . His name only came up as Barstow`s principle of diminishing

probability . Thats all .




probabil

 

Based on what Punkcity said, he does the exact opposite. He said he does not use the Main Road at all as he uses only the bottom three derived roads, Big Eye Boy, Small Road, and Cockroach Pig.

I normally do not play baccarat, but ever since I found Punkcity's "Stadium play 2019 February to August" thread, I have been observing a lot of the live tables for quite some time, and I would use any of the 3 derived boards along with the Main Road.

Bally's AC has 18 tables and on weekends, they are all open at $100 minimum. Caesars has just as many, but not all tables are open on weekends as they probably lost some of their customers to Bally's since Bally's is full all the time on weekends. Hard Rock also has about the same number of the baccarat tables and theirs is also all $100 minimum. Borgata used to have only 9 but they added 2 more tables in the high limit pit. Their minimum on the other hand is really goofy as when it's busy, they go up to $500. Last weekend, they had no $100 minimum tables as 1 was $200, another was $300, and the last one was $500 on the outside and all of the insides were $500. So, I have quite a bit of tables to look around and jump in when I see trends in any of the boards unless they are the $500 minimum ones which I watch people making big bets but I wouldn't dream of playing on them.

As far as the trends go, I would have to say I've seen more trends on the derived boards than the Main Road, which gives me more options to bet when looking for trends. That is what Jimske said as well that using all of the boards just gives us more options.