Baccarat Follow the Last anyone?

This means you need a large day bankroll as your first bet can be for example a 10 unit ( win or lose) at start of the session being played, then maybe the next decision to be bet has another say 7 unit ( win or lose) bet size . Etc etc. Depending on unit size , discipline, etc the average punter would implode using the lightly touched on topic you are putting forward. Most jump from one idea to the next at the first losing session/ hand. I understand the concept you are putting forward,although I’m unable to program , so I’m not attacking you.

I will ask the obvious question are you selling your system here? Cheers

 

If selling the AI, he can’t be the Al-relax. The Al-relax isn’t that “I” haha

 

Why would I do that?
I came from a world of currency trading and have adapted the the programming to apply to the randomness of gaming.
Due to the very nice fellow baccarat friends that have welcomed me into your discussions I wanted to share new possibilities of a world that is just starting to open up. If their is any contribution or insight that I have learned and can pass on that might make their playing more profitable or enjoyable, then I am very happy to do that. At the same time, everyone hear has knowledge and experience that they are willing to share which might give me insight into further refinement of the software. If my goal is to strictly profit then I would open an online casino myself.

 

As far as bankroll goes, I am not sure what you mean by large. The limitations are set by the casino in their minimum to maximum.
If the max is $1000 then that become a single unit flat bet.

The AI plays at a completely different level. It is like playing 11 games at the same time, flat betting each at a different value. I can taper it back to a single game and flat bet a fixed amount. But I to am exploring how far I can this push this design. It is not like a mechanical system that you can tear apart and understand every component. The AI is constantly learning and evolving into something different than where it started out. The complexity of what goes on inside it is just to massive to to be able to read. All you can do is see its output but not how it reached that decision. I to am exploring where this design will go. By it placing a different value on a decision is the only way I get to see what it is thinking. As I said earlier The AI makes higher value decision that I myself would never have chosen if I was playing the shoe. I want to better understand what it is evolving into. It is still a child growing up.

 

As usual this thread that Rz1000 started is going off the rails with all the extraneous off topic noise.

And as usual soxfan can't stand anyone who doesn't play the same way he does. But, for the record, progressive betting is defined by increasing or decreasing your bet based on win loss registry. So rz1000 is not technically making progressive bets. He is betting according to what he considers to be the relative odds. Same as in blackjack for instance.

For my part I'm interested in hearing more about bet selection criteria and less about the noise.

 

Thank you, for explaining that better. The concept of card counting and changing the value of the bet is easier to understand for most players.

 

For the record, I have really enjoyed reading your posts. I don’t quite understand a lot of it but do enjoy it. Keep it up!

 

What I don't understand is whether rz1000 is using AI to predict pattern series or just the next singular outcome? Or both?

So using the Blackjack analogy again one would have to convert passed Baccarat outcomes to a numerical value that could be used to approximate the advantage and make a bet size accordingly. I wonder how many positive expectation bets you could get per hour in a method like this. In 8 deck blackjack 2 decks cut out with Early Surrender I think there's only about eight positive expectation hands per shoe on average.

So the point is how practical could it be? Maybe we'll know more.

 

felete.

 

I hope that I can explain what the software is doing a little bit clearer.
First the AI does not see a beginning or end of a shoe, it see a continuous stream of data (hands played). It ignores ties as if they never occurred.
Primarily it recognize very short lived patterns or( lack of patterns ) and how quickly they change (life span).
It does NOT look at the past to predict the future.

The AI creates possible futures that would explain how the past came to be. Completely reverse to normal thinking.
It narrows the possible futures down as much as possible and gives the different scenarios a viable value.
As the next event is input it keeps adjusting the future to better fit the past. That leads to greater accuracy and a greater prediction value.
Many time it will place a 1 unit bet where it indicates that it wants it to loose because that would generate a 10 unit play only if the loss occurs.
If it turns out to be a win then the 10 unit bet does not materialize. But you still acquire the 1 unit profit.
It does not look at decisions statistically or in any order that can be physically described. It use higher dimensions that have no place in the physical world but do in the mathematical world. Similar to how FRACTALs use fractional dimensions.

A bizarre way to describe it would be that it does not see ( 1+1=2 ) but more like a ( a rose petal + a cloud = what time you will answer your phone)

I do hope this makes a little bit of sense.

 

As far as applying it to blackjack, the patterns are no different. It still generates a steady stream of two decisions Player/Dealer.
The only difficulty is the when it chooses that the Dealer will win you cannot profit, just play the minimum to lower the loss.
This slows down the play drastically because so many decisions are wasted.
Baccarat just fits the application better than any other game. But the games are all interchangeable as long as they are kept to only 2 choice for a decision.
The amount of cards in play or removed has no effect. If you want you can shuffle randomly anytime you choose, even every hand. The AI will play right thru that as if it does not even occur. It is a non-factor.

 

Must be nice to know with dead certainties that yer gonna win the very next hand, hey hey.

 

Yup, I got it, makes perfect sense to me, hey hey.

 

I hope I did not imply that. Everything can fail. The design uses those losses to improve it decision making thus making up for the losses and taking it into profit. There are times that it truly both scares and amazes me with what is locks on to with high certainty. Usually it is what I would absolutely not choose if I was playing the hand. The life span of a pattern change all the time. There are points when you know it should end but it keeps going and vice/versa.
The AI buys hands which are a cost it also losses, But overall it turns a steady profit. There are no end of day losses, just a variation of the profit.
It does not capitalizes on simple runs (eg. 22 Banks in a row, it just bets a flat 1 unit until it is over).
It would be no good at tournament play. It does not get aggressive at all. It is a very defensive design.
For greater profit, up the value of the unit.
It sees well beyond the very next hand. ( but everything can fail, it is more important how it handles the loss than any particular win).

But yes it does every so often indicate a lock on to a hand that I want to bet the table max if that is beyond the unit rate. But I do not. I stick to the design.

 

I will give you credit, your are colorful and definitely entertaining. It is a pleasure to have your input.

 

But you claim yer style capture 8% day in day out. You claim that by some means at time you know with dead certainties that yer gonna win the very next wager and as such you increased yer wager from 5$ to 1000$, a 200 units spread so conrgats that's a serious thin g, baby, hey hey.

 

No, I did not say that. If I am playing $5 as a unit then the max would be $75. When it called for a 15X value. To go at to $1000 then the minimum would be $75 ( a little over for the 15x). The AI will tell me that it has a lock on the next particular decision, but even so if my minimum is $5 then I would only go to the $75. (I WANT TO PLAY the $1000 but I would not, back to defensive not aggressive). I play every hand on both side without distinction so I am always generating bankers commission. I do not increase to cover a loss if I take an 8x hit I might be given 1-8x or 4-8x bets in the next 30 hands. I do not know what the software will give me. I might be given 10-5x plays. and never an 8x, 10x or 15x. it always varies. When it gives the lock indication I do not go to $1000 unless that is my 15x based on a 1x=$75
As far as the 8% (after commissions) that is the minimum that I have ever produced not an average or a max. I do not end a session unless it has turned a profit. So I scatter a lot of session throughout the day rather than just 1 long one. The total for the end of the day. makes the 8% minimum.

 

Maybe I missed it but why did you decide to move from currency trading to baccarat?

 

The only time I would place a $1000 bet out of proportion to a $5 bet was when I was VETTING a casino. If my $1000 bet won where it was supposed to then I knew their software was not cheating me. If it lost I might have to play 2 more $1000 bets. If they lost then I knew their was a problem and I will run away from that casino.
This was a problem in the European casinos in 2006 not today in a U.S. based casino. I am still careful who I choose. There could be many solid European Casinos today but why would I play them. My concern is always how easy can I remove my money from a particular casino. I can put it in there in an instance but it never comes back that quickly. In the past the onlines wanted to hold your monies for a very long time, hoping you would loose and cancel the request for withdrawls. I have experiences every game they like to play.

 

COVID A Long Hospital 2 year fight, still have effects today. Lost my wife to it at the same time. I am 85%. Currency is a true 24 hours process. Not prone to stopping when I want to (my trading method was pretty intense). I have always been involved with baccarat but it was entertainment. Most of my profits went to tips for the dealers. It changed when the U.S. based casino came online and I could redirect the software at them. Now it has become a very entertaining challenge. I would like to see the software evolve to an every play accuracy. I do not know if it will get there.