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Baccarat Follow the Last anyone?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by fathead, Sep 7, 2022.

  1. Rz10000

    Rz10000 Active Member

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    I hope I cleared up some of your questions. Ask anything that is still unclear or confusing. The difficulty is I treat it as second nature but I can be unclear in explaining when you have not been exposed to the foundations.
    Any understanding difficulties is my fault in explaining poorly.
     
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  2. JacobBlaze

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    My message was cutoff ...

    I said long time since we had a worthwhile post, I will save and digest... It's just amazing that someone with your knowledge and expertise has turned their talents towards this game that me, punkcity, junky, soxy, fathead are so passionate about... Thanks
     
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  3. Rz10000

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    I really do enjoy the conversation and enthusiasm that you guys exhibit. I go to this forum around my stopping times in running the AI software. Get tired pressing the deal button.
    Have they made an progress in bringing online tables to Las Vegas yet? I think you are allowed to open online accounts for sport betting but you would have to go to a state that allows tables to actually play them online.
     
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  4. JacobBlaze

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    Many questions...very interesting stuff I'm drinking some beers now it's 137 am in the land of the brown Hispanic orientals (as soxfan calls them) I call them hot asians..lol

    So I'll get back to you tom morning my time..thanks for your reply
     
  5. JacobBlaze

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    If it's not too difficult can you add one thing to this test? Bet banker once after 5 players also....
     
  6. Rz10000

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    No Problem at all. Do you want five players in a row only or should I include a combination. or both possibilities?
    P P
    P P
    P B
    P P
    P P
    _ P

    B B
     
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  7. JacobBlaze

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    Just five in a row, but include the prior bet banker after single player test, thanks
     

  8. soxfan

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    So, are you gonna give us a demonstration of yer style in real time? I'm sure we would all be duly impress. I think it's great that you program an AI to read random and capture pattern. I wonder if yer AI is more adept at it than say dumske the MOhegan Sun sailor retard? It would be almost a shame if yer AI made the human trender, guesser, shoes reader, presentmener, roads driver, randoms reader obsolete, hey hey!!!!
     
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    That ain't my exact style but cat can never go wrong by wagering on the bankers side of the equations, hey hey.
     
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  10. Rz10000

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    You know as well as I. A baccarat player want the excitement of the play. So even if you put the AI to work generating money, that is all that it does. The player will then take take that profit and still play at a table themselves. The thrill of the game, using what ever system they choose. The machine really becomes a backup for their loosing days.

    As far as a demo, I have no problem providing that. BUT make it REAL, not kitchen table baccarat. The pressure of real play changes how players perform, that is the only way to actually see how something works. Set the goals and I will give you the parameters to make that happen. Then place that in a real online casino and I will meet the GOALS on demand.
     
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    So are you gonna be a good bloke and maker yer style available to us ordinary cats, as an app, hey hey????
     
  12. Rz10000

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    The software will not run on a home computer, even the best gaming machines. No where near enough processors or memory.
    And no one is going to lay out the money for the required equipment unless they have ABSOLUTE proof that it works.
    So making an app is not practical.
     
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  13. JacobBlaze

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    After you provide your exact style heyhey so he can test it...

    I.know I didn't have exactly how you play and everything tested so far by fathead and now and "AIRz" doesn't come close to what you are getting, but like I said before I believe your #s, just can't figure out your exact style, but walking around these casinos with hundreds of bacarat tables at once it seems the bet banker once after a single player is a winner overall, except that all these tables are super six, which are half pay banker on a winning banker 6.

    if you want to play commission bacarat with free hands here and most places I have been it's minimum $100 USD bets.
     
  14. JacobBlaze

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    So.no.commodore 64s, fathead is out...lol
     

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    Well said and you seem to have a lot of real world table grinding casino experience too with your statements.

    But a lot of the real cats here, fathead, punkcity, soxfan and myself are past that face in our gambling evolution (I actually have never looked for the thrill that most casino junkies look for)

    I think those type of cats I mentioned earlier are also looking for the challenge of beating the game without progressions etc. And some have found success already thru disciplined robotic like flat bet "methods" (punkcity, soxfan)

    Thanks
     
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    Are you referring to JAE Sox?
     
  17. Rz10000

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    The problem with using an AI software program like this is the level of equipment needed. It is expensive.
    Also not usable at a live casino table unless the player at the table is equipped with micro burst radio communications tied to the equipment. The casinos will frown upon that greatly.

    So it is geared for online play. Which is limited to a few states. (hence why I am in PA and not Las Vegas). A player can open an account from any state in their own name but the actual play has to be done by someone physically in an authorized state. PA, NJ W VA etc...Geo-Location software.
    You can use a VPN but that risks loosing the profits. So a player has to have an account or create a pool of players and someone else run the equipment.
    Now you start running into the max bet being smaller which limits the profit. The software can be reconfigured to a top play of 10X and the time of the play extended but it still limits the profit vs a high limit mini-table.
    A private pool or a singular account with an operator in the licensed state would be the only way you can use it effectively.
     
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    Soxfan was the one asking for a Demo. After a diatribe of remarks.
     
  19. Rz10000

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    But we could try to boost up fathead's commodore, maybe a cooling circuit with Red Bull instead of water.
     
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    The problem with a steady Banker play flat betting is the is the degradation over many hands due to the commissions.
    The super six or dragon is a hidden commission but it is still there.
    In a short term window the Bankers hand can prevail and definitely show a profit but over the long haul the 1% will take that profit away.
    The one way I see to eliminate that would be some type of parallel betting system that you alternate between the primary betting system to cancel out that degradation. Or stick to a true no commission table, not a disguised one.
     
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