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Baccarat Baccarats Truth #1

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 10, 2023.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    If yer at the baccarats and you see the ppp streaks pop then you only have one of two decision to make; either bet bankers or don't bet at all! If you see the ppp streak pop and you come over the tops to wager on p, anticipate ppp go to pppp then yer a RETARD, simple and plain, cases-closed, no disputes, end of stories, hey hey!!!!!
     
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  2. Georgie

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    Agreed. B is the rational play following PPP. 50.35% probability for PPP to chop B, and 49.65% probability for PPP to streak P.
     
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  3. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Agree, it is the ONLY logical, sensible, rational play and that's why many will do the opposite. These cats turn coconut and figure that experience allow them to out guess/trend/readsho/driveroad/presentment the proposition. But that's why these cats will always be the loser player and that's why the casino hold for the baccarats is around 20%, hey hey!!!!
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Logic and Common sense are the corner stone of this game.
     
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    in the end nothing will work.
    you win today, you lose tomorrow
     
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  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The casaino hold is 20% BUT that is a statistic based on longer term monthly averages. In the short term a casino could be loser. Reason hold is 20% has more to do with players having limited bankroll. Has little to do with the house edge. Has NOTHING to do with trend or guessing. You could throw a dart at the wall and in time you'd end up with HA if you didn't raise your bet, run into table limits or run out of money! As soon as you raise your bet you lose your $150.00 daily B LOL (that's the house take per person on average) Next week they come back, rinse and repeat...VOILA! You just lost 100%!!!!! So soxfan, more nonsense as usual but what else is new?

    I once saw a guy sit down and bet $1k a hand and play marty and proceed to lose 4IAR! He was so surprised, hahahha. Ya think he came back with 15K? Probably not. He just made a contribution to the hold of 20% LMAO.

    Cheers
     
  7. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Agreed, B is the rational play guaranteeing you will lose less than if you bet P. If you bet P you lose 14 units out of 1000 wagers. If you bet B you only lose 11.35 units out of 1000 wagers. Roundabout.
     

  8. soxfan

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    Bbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, I thought that you might have something of value to say so I took you off iggy, my mistake. I tested this style bet bone times after ppp pop, and I tested by hand 1000 shoe, not 1000 wager but 1000 shoe and it showed a total NETS PROFITS of around 330 units! Yer just not only stupid beyond words, yer dishonest and yer a lazy piece of shit too, hey hey.
     
  9. soxfan

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    Funny enough, for some reason I've been eyeball testings this bet b after ppp pop style to see how it would fare as I'm playing my flats bets bankers style. And over the course of around 1030 shoe this style woulda capture 117.3 units nets profits, so sigvnificant under-perform the previous 1000 shoe what I test this style. Still, in total, the bet b once after ppp pops woulda capture 447.3 units NETS PROFITS over the course of 2030 shoe had I actually play the style for real cake, hey hey.
     
  10. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Yer 100% correct, so go jump in the bosphorus and off yer-self, hey hey!!!!
     
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  11. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    haha you read ever word I write haha. Dumb dumb. Everybody knows ignore doesn't kick in inless you deliberately log in!!!!!! Pffffff! Phony a h o l e

    We're still waiting for the facts - instead we get the eyeball kitchen version BS.
     
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  12. soxfan

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    Yup, yer fucking retarded, and lazy and dishonest as well, hey hey,
     
  13. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    All you really got is name calling and nonsense kitchen table posts. All you got to do is say the bet selection. That shouldn't bother you because all you got to say when someone like me runs a sim on it showing it is BS is to say, "those ain't legit shoes." Legit shoes! What a joke!

    Cheers
     
  14. soxfan

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    You claim that betting b, once after ppp pop is a proposition that loses 11 unit per 1000 wager yet I've tested that exact style and it shoe a NETS PROFITS of 447.3 unit buckin up against 2030 shoe. So, yeah, yer just talkin yer typical low-iq bulls-shits, as usual, hey hey!!!!
     

  15. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    you got 10,000 legit shoes in your data base. Run a sim on them. Show the wirld that the HA is wrong! Hehehe. It's already been done ad nauseum.

    Cheers
     
  16. soxfan

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    Ah yes, that's why baccarats can only be beat via "guessing", win goals, money managements and all other many of subjective that and this, right? You are just unteachably stooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid, fulls-stop, hey hey!!!!
     
  17. Jimske

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    You're right, a big problem is the teachability. I've taught a couple people to play the way I do for instance. One does pretty well while the other doesn't. Why? Well the one that doesn't says I'm just lucky. Another guy who I told ran a sim and showed it doesn't produce wins. He says I just have a knack. Actually, believing in the math I agree with both. I'm a little lucky and I have a "knack." Yeah well maybe people make their own luck and maybe a knack comes from experience. I have a lot of that.

    Punkcity is the same way. He was kind enough to show me his method since we both use the derived roads. A sim shows there is no common advantage. He's got the knack.

    Maybe the knack really is discipline, MM and experience. Sure, you can call it guessing. So what.

    So you want to teach? Then teach. That would be a lot better than calling people names and criticizing the way they play. It's a fucking game for Christ's sake.

    Cheers
     
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  18. soxfan

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    Subjective styles are worthless. Only cats what are loser bulls-shits artist or systems seller talk subjective that and this so that nobody can pin them down and replicate their supposed success. Cats who attempt to play this subjective foolishness invariably end up losing and then the cats what push the nonsenses after a fact harumph and bluster and tell them that they "guessed" incorrectly, they drove the wrong road or that they should have invoked the stops-loss or should have taken profits at some ridiculously arbitrary point. That's why I only deal with style what are pure mechanical, objective and replicable, hey hey!!!!
     
  19. cps10

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    I have shown Jimske my MM and we both have ideas on a purely mechanical system. Math supposedly beats it every time but it hasn’t. I would like to see other methods that are similar and show some success.
     
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  20. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    This is a real gem.

    In fact:

    EV at Banker bets (0.95 x 0.5035) - (1 x 0.4965) = - 1.82% so way worse than expected

    EV at Player bets (1 x 0.4965) - (1 x 0.5035) = - 0.7% so way better than expected

    Therefore and according to those data, after PPP the best (less worse) bet is by far to bet Player and not Banker.

    Or there are other math laws capable to invert such values we are unaware of?

    as.
     
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