Baccarat H & S Baccarat System

I played around with your idea. I reset at various numbers, even tried a reverse countdown like starting at 25 and counting down to one, then resetting to 25. None of the ideas did as well as just the random "Hand-1" figure.

When you think about it, the number chosen starts with a random number 1 to 72 then counts up from there. If it is toward the end of the shoe it could reset to '1' on the beginning of the new shoe and start over. Anyway, "Hand-1" seems to work better.

 

I have my testing software on my MacBook Air. Pretty much every day I load up the software and try various crazy ideas to entertain myself. Sometimes I come up with things that have a chance, sometimes not.

 

You would always need the very large bankroll, I think. That is the downside of this method.

Here is another way to approach it. Just sit down and play five shoes, accept the profit for the session, then reset and start over next session. I will demonstrate below as I write this.

I am going to use the live database and let the software choose a starting shoe, 1 through 4062. Instead of "Profit greater than Shoe Number" I am going to use "Profit greater than One Unit". I am going to play 5 shoes each session and see what we end up with for ten sessions, listing them below.

Starting Shoe - Ending Profit - Bankroll Needed

2185 - +9.00 - 11.00
1318 - +9.10 - 10.00
789 - +21.25 - 87.30
3987 - +110.60 - 128.00
1258 - +27.35 - 14.00
26 - +8.45 - 9.00
1629 - +21.25 - 22.00
3055 - +31.85 - 105.00
729 - +37.40 - 18.00
3861 - +63.25 - 80.00
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Total Profit = +339.50 Units

So you can see than after ten sessions of five shoes each you won +339.50 units. We got lucky and did not need the gigantic bankroll (largest needed was 128 units).

I am not sure how practical the system is but, you are right, it is interesting and seemed to work out fine on this little ten session experiment.

 

Okay here is another little test. If you are like me, after 2 or 3 shoes you need to get up and take a break. Go get some lunch or supper, take a drive, explore the area, something else. So is there a way to keep sessions short?

Similar rules in this test. The software will choose a random shoe to start. Instead of "profit greater than shoe number" I am using "profit greater than one unit".

Our goal for the session is any positive profit we see at the end of the first shoe, or if no profit we continue on into the shoes that follow until we are in profit. It might take one shoe, or several. Let's see how we fare.

Starting Shoe - Ending Profit - Bankroll Needed

2323 - +40.00 - 3
1945 - +22.05 - 271
2331 - +55.90 - 183
1461 - +25.95 - 15
3604 - +38.35 - 39
1619 - +26.90 - 4
3501 - +8.25 - 12
2162 - +8.30 -11
3592 - +10.20 - 2
47 - +11.40 - 9
2979 - +8.95 - 10
784 - +18.30 - 64
2347 - +19.30 - 19
1968 - +12.45 - 5
1191 - +3.00 - 9
475 - +7.85 - 4
671 - +140.85 - 167
3838 - +9.65 - 8
1127 - +4.8 - 9
256 - +19.65 - 18
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Total Units Won = +492.10

Okay here are 20 more random sessions with a total of +492.10 units won. Surprisingly none went beyond one shoe. Maybe this is the way to play it. Bankroll requirement got a bit high in one shoe (271 units).

Interesting system.

 

Why on earth would you engage in chickens-shits, scared loser recreational player foolishness like limiting yer play to just ten shoe per week if ya got an actual longsterm winnings style, hey hey????

 

@fathead are you using hand counts whether or not you play the hand or are you using hand counts based on the hand number you are betting?

 

Good question

 

The first dealt hand of the shoe is '1', second hand is '2' ... those are the numbers I am using. I will attach a partial shoe result below which shows "Profit, Decision, Bet, Hand Number, Shoe Number"

 

Okay that’s what I thought. I was going to try and de-escalate the bets on a losing streak to open a shoe, but in reality I don’t know if that would allow a lot of flat betting opportunities when it’s all said and done.

So far I have played 6 shoes with a total profit of +65.05. Highest bet so far has been 47 units. And a 43-unit bet.

 

That's good. I imagine that you will eventually hit a shoe that will be too much to handle with a reasonable bankroll. But let us know how it goes.

 

Will do. For me I have had four or five LIAR but then because of your MM, just one win gets you to flat betting right away. For me, it would be a good exit point. Then start all over again.

 

I triied this yesterday and lose all 400 units. Not work. PPPBBPBPBBPPPBPBBPPPBPPP. F*** shoe

 

Wins 3.4 units on your shoe with maybe 50 unit bankroll. 400 units may not be enough for some shoes though.

 

I have been working on some ideas with your HandS and actually played about 6 live shoes using a version of this.

One of the things I don't like is the quick escalation

So.my tweak was only adding half the hand # etc, for example if it hand 60 and you lost bet was 10 i would.only add 30 to the bet not 60, so the bet would be 40 not 70 units etc...

Here the live shoes super six are minimum 500pesos ($10) equivalent... But I can increase my bets by 100 pesos ($2) equivalent etc ...
500,.600,700,800 etc

To make.it easier lets just call.it 5 minimum and can increase at 1 increments .

So if I'm at hand 30 and just lost a 5 bet minimum and am now below starting $ total then Ur system would bet 35 this next bet, my tweak has it betting only 20... I know it's a give and take....and your default system is probably the best ....

I only played per single shoe and restarted fresh next shoe
Had to play every hand my random bet selection and it was super six table..I ended up.winnig 60 units of the 5bet which is about 300 units of the 100 bet. Real money terms was 30,000 pesos about $600 USD

Again betting every hand all.shoe.player or banker and super six. I had 300,000 with me.so.in my mind I treat it.like 3000 unit bankroll etc because I only go.up by 1 etc

Can u test about 10 shoes randomly using this tweak and carry it on to the next shoe if not.positive etc?? Using banker only all shoe is fine

Also

In The high limit free hands and commission minimum bet is $100 and have to go.up in $20 increments.... 5000 equivalent, and 1000 increments... So 5000,6000,7000 etc

I have to do further tweaking to have a manageable bankroll.

Im messing around with only going up by about 10% of hand # so.in this scenario if you have a loss on hand 66 and u need to increase ur bet the bet would only be Increased by 6 (not 60) units, hand 70,71,72 would bee increased by 7 (7000, not 70000) units only etc....
Hope that makes sense...

So even though minimum bet is 5000, since I'm only going up by 1000 the if I had 500,000 bankroll then I would virtually have 500 unit bankroll etc...hope that .makes sense....

Thanks for bringing up this interesting method RzScammer....lol

I.mean fathead hahaha

 

You said you were using random so I let the software choose a random bet and bet every hand. Instead of (Hand-1) I used (Hand/2)-1. 500 unit bankroll.

There was one bust and you lost about about -(180) units in this sample.

RZscammer ... grr ... those are fightin' words. Ha.

13.68
7.33
6.43
21.05
-(435)
24.13
9.73
16.88
25.48
32.45
22.78
4.40
4.90
2.70
2.68
5.05
24.03
22.08
4.68
5.75

 

Thanks

(Hand/2)-1 is that half the hand number ? Can you do by 10% and banker only?

 

Yes half the hand number minus one.

This is Banker only, adding 10% of Hand Number to bet on loss and below 1 unit goal, 500 unit bankroll.

There was one bust and you lost over -(208) units in this sample.


34.63
15.04
11.23
7.14
11.51
5.74
22.73
17.75
12.83
8.67
15.1
20.65
8.02
10.87
7.54
6.47
3.37
-(450)
7.90
15.35

 

I decided to run the H&S Baccarat on 20 more software selected random shoes, using the 25,000 shoe database since it had problems with it. We ended up with +681 units profit but see how high bankroll required got? Over 2000 units in one shoe.

The problem with resetting every shoe is we are using a lot more progressions while in the "no bust" version we are sometimes flat betting through many shoes with no progressions. We got lucky and did not bust at least on these 20 shoes.

Profit - Bankroll

61.80 - 65
3.90 - 1
10.80 - 7
11.30 - 16
169.35 - 1891
52.25 - 389
64.55 - 2110
11.35 - 17.00
4.85 - 7.00
91.6 - 305
20.4 - 34
7.85 - 1
7.00 - 4
10.70 - 8
48.50 - 43
28.35 - 163
59.15 - 57
5.35 - 21
3.85 - 10
8.75 - 12
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Total Profit = 681.65

 

Jacob, I think the 3000 unit bankroll would have a better chance. I might can run a Super 6 version for you using the 2500 or 25,000 virtual shoes since I have card and hand values on those. Maybe later if I have time.

 

Thanks

"The problem with resetting every shoe is we are using a lot more progressions while in the "no bust" version we are sometimes flat betting through many shoes with no progressions"

Yes it's a give and take

I'm not sure if I'm explaining right ..i might do a playing video... I played another 4 live shoes today with success but had 95 unit bet that recovered.. on the way a 52 unit hit super six for only 26 payout.. that kept me playing longer that shoe ...