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Baccarat H & S Baccarat System

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by fathead, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. Bactz

    Bactz Member

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    Eg:
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P Now bet P 1 unit.
    P W (Only bet 1 time on the streak, and then wait for the next 3 in a row) Bet 2 units next.

    Otherwise I guess you can still labby it as an alternative.
     
  2. Bactz

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    I am sure that would be a very common way to play?!
     
  3. fathead

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    Betting for Banker or Player after 4 (PBBB bet B) or betting against (PBBB bet P)? Or something else?
     
  4. Bactz

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    No. Let me explain more detail.


    Ignore all ties.
    See we have 3 bankers in a row in the first column. Therefore that is our trigger to bet 1 unit on banker. Our goal is to take advantage of the streaks (whether B or P.) (No combination of both. They MUST be 3B or 3P together.)

    Keep in mind that we only bet once after we see each trigger. So we lost 1 unit above.

    Now we wait for our next trigger of 3B or 3P in a row. Therefore they will have to start on a new column.
    We now see 3 players together on the 6th column. Trigger again. Lost 2 units here.
    Our next trigger is in the next column, where we have 5 bankers in a row. So after the 3rd same result (trigger) we bet 3 units on banker. (1 bet only.) We win.

    So at this point in time we could reset back to 1 unit, or we just bet 4 units on the next trigger.

    As you can see our next trigger is in column 14. There are 4 players in a row - and we win here.
    So probably best to reset our units back to 1 unit. Otherwise like I mentioned before we could labby it or Fibonacci the bets.

    What are your thoughts please?
    I would imagine this would be a very common strategy right? I am just wondering if it's a reliable one. I should probably do some testing.

    Sorry my diagram stuffed up. I will post the diagram soon.
     
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  5. Bactz

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    Okay, so this picture below relates to my last detailed explanation above. Thanks.

    IMG_20230426_142638.jpg
     
  6. Bactz

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    This method can also be used for roulette too. Are you able to perform a test run on your computer Fathead?
     
  7. fathead

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    Yes, I will run it for you in the morning. Late here.
     

  8. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Okay so I just increased the bet by one unit each trigger, win or lose. I set a maximum of 3 shoes per session and reset the bet back to one unit anytime these three things happened at the same time. (1) We had a win, (2) Were in profit for the session, and (3) The bet size was greater than one unit. Then I started increasing the bet by one unit each trigger again.

    I stopped the session at the end of any shoe showing a profit or end of three shoes with no profit. Most sessions won but you would have a big loss occasionally when you never really got ahead at all. I will run sessions below until I have a busted session or two.

    Session Profit
    +5.70
    +14.8
    +3.20
    +7.05
    +1.45
    +6.20
    +6.70
    +3.55
    +6.75
    +4.85
    +6.80
    +4.75
    +3.65
    +1.90
    +4.35
    +6.65
    +15.4
    +5.75
    +4.80
    +2.90
    +6.45
    +1.60
    +4.65
    +2.45
    +9.90
    +1.80
    +4.95
    +3.75
    +2.80
    +8.45
    +6.95
    -(25.85)
    +3.60
    +4.40
    -(84.44)
    +3.80
    +7.70
    +1.75
    +0.90
    +3.35
    -(89.75)
    +1.65
    +5.80
    +2.95
    +4.80
    +9.10
    +4.30
    +2.70
    -(157.85)
     
  9. Bactz

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    Whoa, hmm thanks.
     
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  10. Zhang Wei

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    fathead, you said you increased the bet by 1 unit, win or lose.
    Then you said you reset the bet back to 1 unit anytime you had a win.
    Which is it?
    I am confused.
     
  11. Bactz

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    Zhang, technically we are trying to capitalise by increasing the bets. It can still go either way. So anytime after a high win, then reset.
     
  12. fathead

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    The above was the way I had it coded. Default was to increase by one unit after each win or loss. But after each win it would check to see if we were in profit for the session, then it would reset to one unit, then resume increasing the bet by one unit each win or loss. I guess "3" was unecessary.
     
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  13. fathead

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    Actually I was resetting on a win if we were showing any profit at all. But I will change it to new high profit and run some more sessions below until we have a few busts.

    Session Profit
    +8.85
    +4.90
    +18.45
    +7.60
    +6.65
    +5.85
    +6.75
    -(28.70)
    +7.10
    +1.10
    +5.80
    -(100.65)
    +2.75
    +3.85
    +7.90
    +3.00
    +5.60
    +8.75
    +1.95
    +8.40
    +2.85
    -(46.20)

    Seems similar. Most shoes you win but sometimes you cannot get ahead and have to swallow a large loss.
     
  14. Zhang Wei

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    Could you show the bet sizes for the biggest loss -100.65?
     

  15. fathead

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    I did not save the shoe numbers but will find a similar bust and post the shoes for you.
     
  16. fathead

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    These shoes are from the 10005 shoes, -73.80 units. I will post the three shoes in three different screenshots.

    Screen Shot 2023-04-27 at 10.30.58 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-04-27 at 10.31.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-04-27 at 10.32.03 AM.png
     
  17. JacobBlaze

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    Fathead, can you rerun this same shoe but instead of adding previous bet to next bet just use 5 units, so you are only adding half the hand # to 5 units (minimum bet). I'm trying to keep bets small as possible. If it hasn't recovered just let it go into the next shoes etc, thanks

    This kept a shoe that I tested that had a 700 plus unit bet and was down 2600 units before recovery to only down about 200 units and a 35 unit bet before recovering the shoe only had 31 wins and 38 losses
     
  18. fathead

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    This is increasing the bet only on a loss.
    Screen Shot 2023-04-27 at 1.19.37 PM.png

    This is increasing after each win or loss (I think your preferred way).
    Screen Shot 2023-04-27 at 1.22.37 PM.png
     
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  19. fathead

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    JacobBlaze, if you get too conservative you will get into a situation like Bactz's system where you just cannot get ahead in some shoes. This is why I don't really like Oscar's Grind that much (+1 on any win is too conservative and often fails).
     
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