Las Vegas Rob Singer: Final thoughts

The hard rocks of reality, gnashing my soul for decades.

How about you, what took the wind out of your sails?

 

Kew started this thread because either I'm constantly on his mind or my dick is. Either way, I've got him sucking out of my ass ("eating out of my hand" for those without a bunch of crossed wires upstairs).

But now I'm gonna show him how big a mistake that was. Clearly, the sick little puppy has zero idea how to calculate virtually anything. Now he'll get another lesson from me.....his mentor

We've all seen kew's slobbering jealousy over my Newell, how I put down the DU bug play for 5+ years, and of course that pesky $1.5million video poker hit. And we've all witnessed how he absolutely can't STAND it if anyone talks about these things without saying they don't believe them. But for now, let's just focus on the first two. Why? Because that'll be enough to prove what an envious serial liar he is and always has been. And that's BEFORE he came up with the South Point broken arm lie, which as we all realize was an attempt at generating attention to the fairy in a way to keep it all from going towards me.

Overnight someone sent me a clip from my last interview with Wizard, pointing me to our discussion about my DU bug play and how or if that had anything to do with my purchasing a nearly new at the time 2011 Newell.

Kew always uses this interview as an attempt to show how "Wizard forced him into tying the Newell to the DU bug profiting claim and it was great how he pinned him down" which was genius on Shack's part because "we all know there was never any Newell".

Now the truth, and this is why I was sent the clip of that part of the interview. Shack never brought up a relationship between the DU play and the Newell. It was ME who introduced that into the conversation because I wanted to talk about how and why I bought it.

I admitted that, although I had enuf money to buy one WITHOUT DU bug money (which Wizard acknowledged as a good point) I only purchased the money pit because I was sitting on a load of spare cash. Never would I have made a stupid purchase like that with retirement money.

So we're left with yet another of kew's lies to mock him with.

Chances are, red will enshrine him onto the Gypsters wall of shame.

 

The only thing you're sitting on is a load of horse shit higher than Mount Everest. Fuck off shit-for-brains.

 

LOL. Rob gets my nomination for "AP of the Year" for skimming most of the money from his kids and friends' sports betting bonuses. And JBS gets my nomination for "Best Fan of AP of the Year" for his insightful, succinct but comprehensive summaries of Rob's autobiographical narratives.

 

Red, I don't know why you continue to have such a hard time with this. If Ron had actually done what he claimed in regards to the $28k played on accounts of relatives or friends, who otherwise wouldn't have used them, there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that. BUT the fact is Ron didn't do that. This is simply Ron stealing yet another claim by AP's after the fact, just like he did with the double-up bug. Smaller scale but the exact same thing. Withe the increased talk of sports betting and this play came up, we get Ron saying "Oh yeah I did that before they did".

So enough about delusional old Ron sitting on his porch screaming "I used to be somebody".

Let me give you a couple examples reditz and see if either hits home.

You visit a friend and are sitting at the table having a few beers discussing life. Sitting there on the table is some incoming mail. You notice those promotional two for 1 (or half off) coupons from the local fast food place. He says take them because he doesn't eat there. He hasn't eaten there in 20 years. Are you skimming money from him by taking and using the coupons that he would not have used and would have ended up in the trash?

Example #2 is a real example of something that I did as an AP. When I first moved to Vegas, Palms casino used to send out a coupon book every few months to every address in the area. There were lots of half off coupons for different food outlets and four (4) $10 match play coupons, 2 for blackjack and two for roulette. At the time I lived in a high-rise condo at Flamingo and Koval. I pulled 40 some coupon booklets from the trash can in our mail room. I also visited 2 other nearby apartment time places and pulled addition booklets from the trash at those locations. I forget how many I had but it was a lot. I am going to say 100 or close to it. So for the next three months, I would start and end every day at the Palms playing a hand at blackjack and a round of roulette using match plays.

It was small potatoes stuff, worth about $20 a day in EV, but I lived right on the same road, just across the strip, about a mile and a quarter away, so I just started and ended every day there.

So my point...did I "skim" from anyone, by using those coupons that not only would have ended up in the trash but already were in the trash??

That is what this play is that you keep harping on. We are talking about a friend or relatives that don't gamble and wouldn't use this play. So using an account with their permission isn't "skimming" from them. Now if you did it without their permission or did it knowing they probably would have used the opportunity....that is entirely different. But that is NOT what was said.

 

"Who wouldn't otherwise have used them?" Let me add a few punctuation marks and caps, "WHO WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE USED THEM!!??!!"

C'mon, man. Get real, at least a little.

You have family and friends. They can get free money. Instead of showing them how to get free money, which 90% of them (at the low end) will not turn down, you offer to front money and toss them a bone.

What this says to me is that you did a lousy job explaining how easy and how free the money is. And, of yeah, I'll do it for you and give you a nice tip. C'mon. If your family and friends have IQs above 40, you can either (A) show them how to do it, knowing they will be able to do it themselves going forward when further opportunities arise with other books and states or you can (B) say, oh yeah, it's complicated and requires front money (you know, an AP thing, much too complex for civilians) and I'll do it for you and toss you 10 percent.

What kind of person opts for A?

Plus, it's not like these opportunities are going anywhere all at once. More than likely, the same stuff will be available most places next month, next football season, next year. Who knows? It's possible the opportunities get reigned in a little; it's also possible they become more advantageous. So you can tell your family and friends either (A) we gotta do it now before they yank these bonuses or you can tell them (B) these bonuses will likely be available forever, so whenever you know how to do it, you can do it yourself. Here's how.

What kind of person opts for A?

Plus, on top of it, if it's free money and your family and friends don't have the funds to bet optimally to take advantage, why wouldn't you just lend them the money to do so? They are, supposedly, family and friends, after all. Me personally, I'd loan them the money. It's supposed to be you and yours versus casinos. Not you taking advantage of the lack of knowledge of yours.

Jesus, what kind of self-absorbed mentality do you lug around with yourself?

What I've learned from this sports betting bonus topic is how acceptable selfish, scumbag behavior is amongst the AP crowd. Who knew?

 

Are you serious Red? You must spend too much time in casinos. Dude there are people that don't gamble. Don't want to gamble. Don't want to have anything to do with gambling.

My mother is one such person. At times when we have been in a casino for lunch at a restaurant or Sunday brunch or even a few times to see a movie, I tried to play the "good Samaritan AP" you speak of and teach her a couple different things. It always ended with here expressing a desire to do NO kind of gambling what-so-ever. So I had her sign up at a few places and used her card. Please explain to me how that is me "skimming" from her? Unless she woke up some morning after falling and hitting her head with a complete epiphany, she was never going to place a single bet on anything...EVER.

 

I don't know what happened to you but you seem to have become very hostile? I guess it is a result of mickeycrimm's relentlessness at trying to discredit you and tear you down.

There is an element of selfishness to APing. A better term is self-preservation. While we are completing against the casino and casino industry, to a lesser degree we can sometimes be competing against each other. Word of a good thing getting out can end a play or in the case of something like blackjack, worsen conditions.

That is why most AP's share very little, at least until that particular play has ended or dried up. I have always tried to strike a balance in that because I benefited from players that shared things with me. But there have always been some AP's that don't appreciate that from me.

But scumbag? Come on dude. This is just plain hostility on your part.

 

If executed properly, the sports bonuses aren't gambling. They are free money. Like using grocery coupons or a coupon for Hardee's.

And I don't buy the schtick you're selling. Suddenly "APs" are surrounded by folks who not only "do not gamble," but are opposed to garnering free money.

As I said, sell me a bridge, buddy.

 

Sports bettors would not go around recruiting people and offering them 10% tips for bonus exploitation. It's insulting to the intelligence of the people you're recruiting, and it's unbelievably selfish. It is crass and self-absorbed.

I'm very surprised that this kind of junk is considered par for the AP course. It's a little sickening.

It's not like you're providing any real expertise. At best, you're briefly fronting some money. That's about it. The expertise you provide is so negligible that I'd be embarrassed to take money for doing it -- I mean, I'd be embarrassed to take a 10% tip for myself for doing it.

And you are eliminating the potential for the people you are recruiting from doing it for themselves at the same shops down the road.

The reason for my "new" hostility is that the "APs" have just recently publicly invaded sports betting, and their attitudes and mores are one step above full-on conmanship.

 

Maybe you do live on Mars, like several people claim.

In the real world there are people that want nothing to do with gambling. I have two in my immediate circle of friends and family. In addition to my mother, my current friend or boyfriend, also has very little interest in gambling. Because he is a friend and former classmate of my brothers, we both have tried to teach him a few things and he just has no interest.

True story: One time last year, when we were in a casino for dinner, after dinner, we sat down at a video poker machine. I knew he would never in a million years part with any of his own money, so I told him I would front him $100 to play on, with the stipulation that he had to play. He couldn't just stick it in his pocket. The offer was that I would tell him exactly what to do, what to hold and not hold, trying to explain it along the way and at the end he could keep any money won. He declined. Again, in the real world, some people have absolutely no interest in gambling.

Additionally, my brother has attempted to teach this same person blackjack numerous times now. Not even card counting, advantage play stuff, just basic blackjack to start with, figuring if there was any interest at all, we could get into card counting down the road. BUT, there has been no interest at all to date.

I mean this is a guy that works a retail job, in a large home improvement store. He gets up at 6am 4 days a week. And he lives with not one, but 2 people that make a living as an AP, both a substantially better living (earnings-wise) than he makes. You would think he would be dying to learn some of that. BUT again, some people just have zero interest in gambling.

 

Yes, there has been a lot of discussion of sports betting in regards to advantage play of late. It seems like you are offended that some AP's have found some advantage play opportunities in "your world" of sport betting. That is the best I can figure.

Now have I "invaded" your little arena of sports betting? Come on dude, no body has shared their losing sports betting (for entertainment) endeavors as much as I have. So what is with your hostility towards me? Seriously, you have become very defensive and almost angry and bitter like you know who.

And the examples I am giving as per using a few accounts of family members and friend doesn't even pertain to sports betting. I did it playing video poker to receive the mailer bonuses. It just so happens it is the very same concept as doing it with sports betting bonuses. And that is an AP play.

 

But, alas, redietz, it is not my intention to pile on the redietz trashing that is taking place. If you want to fight with the world and those trolling you, which is what this campaign is, have fun.

 

It's cute watching you two display a hatred of each other while walking on eggshells And to think I am the catalyst behind it all ....

I'm more confused by red first claiming that I stiffed my kids and their spouses because it somehow was "their money", then saying I owed some "friends" also.
Who dat be red?

 

Do people who don't use available grocery coupons exist?

The people who don't...are they opposed to garnering free money?

 

It's funny how they are just now realizing that the other is a scumbag.

All along missing the forest for the trees stuff.

 

See only you collection of angry, bitter dudes would even think that. Your lives are so miserable, you would get a hard on (if you still can) and jerk off thinking this.

The fact is, I still believe redietz is a longtime successful sports better, who has made a living for decades in the sports betting arena. Included in that, among other things is his use of sports betting handicapping contests to his advantage. Something I was completely unfamiliar with. And this application makes him an AP, a label he has at times refused and probably still will based on his recent comments about APs.

However, I also believe that there is an element of old school to redietz. And he seems to take offense that some AP's, a good number actually, have recently found some advantage play value in the sports betting world by taking advantage of bonuses. It seems like redeitz considers this moving into his personal area, and is taking offense at it. That seems kind of weird to me. But it in no way changes that I find redietz credible as to his claims of supporting himself via the sports betting arena.

Just because I don't agree with everything he says, like this weird attack on players using accounts of friends and family that aren't using them, or before that his position on advantage players trying to remain anonymous, doesn't mean I am feuding with him or find him less credible. It is just I disagree with him on those particular topics.

If you weren't an idiot and just a troll playing games, you would recognize this Belly.

 

Kew, you somehow also hate the truth.

You and redietz are proven liars....and deadbeats. Why do you think he claims to have been married for several decades, yet couldn't afford offspring? And why do you believe you had to concoct that ridiculous SP broken arm story when everybody has known you've been a phony and serial liar for years?

It's all a part of your bizarre generation. You losers think those of us with money, aka baby boomers, owe you people something, and most of the time it's owing you the "right" to make up lies about yourself and anyone who has you pegged. Next we'll be asked to hand over reparations to queers because their parents weren't able to bring them up properly. Sickness all around....

 

I recognize that he called you a scumbag.