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Baccarat what progression are you using?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by 5pinn, May 6, 2023.

  1. Luis

    Luis New Member

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    For decades i tried dozens of strategies with Positive progression like John patrick, oscar grind, G3M1, 21223344 but there is no result even losing little by little. I think the only way to win baccarat is negative progression.
     
  2. soxfan

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    Oscar grinds is not a negative progression style, hey hey.
     
  3. Zhang Wei

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    You need to improve your BS to the point where it is good enough for your progression to rarely bust.
    I disagree with you. I think the only way to win baccarat is positive progression.
     
  4. Luis

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    I apply TBL and OTBL strategy to catch all chop and streak opportunities with positive MM like 1212233 but in the long run it still loses little by little not better than negative progression.
     
  5. Zhang Wei

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    In the long run when you bust negative progressions, you usually lose all your winnings + bankroll.
     
  6. soxfan

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    Ain't no shrewd cat gonna let a single progression bust bow out his whole bank-roll, hey hey!!!!
     
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  7. soxfan

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    For year I used successful a parlay style progression where a bust would clip me for just over -100 unit downs-draw. But I'm a shrewd cat, not a cocnut so I pony up enough banks-roll so that no single progressions bust would ever clip me for more than 10% of my life-time roll! Too many baccarat cats ain't do things right, they don't don't do sufficient testings/researches and they play scared on short cake with ridiculous insufficient bank-roll, simple and plain, hey hey!!!!
     

  8. Luis

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    Can you share what bet selection you use in using positive progression?
     
  9. gizmotron

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    What about a "let it ride" long shot? Let's say you speculate on a sleeping dozen to last let's say 5 times in a row. Very common at times.

    So you bet $100 on one awake dozen and $100 on the other awake dozen.

    So you let the winnings ride.

    So it goes like this:

    $200 ( $100 & $100 )
    $300 ( $150 & $150 )
    $450 ( $225 & $225 )
    $675 ( $337.50 & $337.50 )
    $1012.50 ( $506.25 & $506.25 )

    Total after fifth win equals $1518.75
     
  10. walkingman

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    In my experience in land base casino . The ONLY WAY to play Baccarat is to Win MORE when winning and LOSE LESS when LOSING.
    To me Im only using my Positive Progression while winning and stopping it after two acummulative losses not successive . Baccarat should treat as three plays game. Streaks,OLD & 2-2s .
    Practice to target 4-5 units per shoe.

    I wont use Negative progression it will cause anxiety or panick attack

    One of the best Chase Progression is MONGOOSE but there are other good Money Management in many Gambling site that you find excellent with some minor adjustment to fit your style of play and capacity. But any system would only works in your favof if yourself is part overall of the system. Discipline and Greed control is a must For me simple method are better than no method at all.
     
  11. walkingman

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    My fellow Cebuano is now competing with American Got Talent 2023 he is from myHome Province of Cebu, Philippines. He is a Fisherman and Motorcycle driver for hire. But with talent as singer audition contestant in AGT.
     
  12. walkingman

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    I only use MONGOOSE as model in my Positive Progression TWeaks not that lengthy Negative Progression with Huge Bankroll budget.
     
  13. Luis

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    Thanks for the tips
     
  14. Luis

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    What you said is very true, but when we use streak, old and teribble 2 that is a problem because shoes are now very volatile
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    3-1 - 1 . effective too.
     
  16. walkingman

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    If you can construct a switch mechanism between these three BS which I did in my play . Eg 1 BS assuming would capture five streaks then followed by the second BS with other patterned this followed by the third BS. You make some switch play that never overlap eg BS 1 3LIAR you swtiched to BS 2 but if count the last five hands the BS 1 is majority & mathematically match to you positive progression then I stay at BS 1 . no switch, until such time you will internalized this method of your play then you will be confident to bet aggressive positive Progression. You are swtching BS but your Positive MM is in back and forth in this case there are days or shoe/table you can be lucky and reach the maximum table limits. Excuse of my english I really tried to explained as much I can.

    Walkingman
     
  17. walkingman

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    Yes W1 W2 W3 = 1 1 3 as positive if W1 loses switch L1-L2 progression only
     
  18. Nathan Detroit

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    never wise up a pun .
     
  19. Zhang Wei

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    Banker
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    Chop
    Streak
    OTBL
    TBL
     
  20. walkingman

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    FLD + OLD + BBP
     

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