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Baccarat what progression are you using?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by 5pinn, May 6, 2023.

  1. Luis

    Luis New Member

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    How many lose did you switch to OLD and when did you switch to BBP?

    Sometimes PPP appears I follow P but the result is BB followed by PBPP

    I use 3 step marty
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    Still can not win
     
  2. stephen

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    Mathematically if you can not win flat betting no progression positive or negative will make it a winner. In fact, you will lose more with progressions, since your average bet increases with progressions.
     
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  3. walkingman

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    Using that marty you should switch BS to template then parlay every win & flat bet WLWL put another recovery level with double win such STAR type mode. This would be hard to beat this method , but you need huge bankroll.

    Walikingman
     
  4. walkingman

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    correction WLWL just move up to next the level bet of your progression no parlay WLWLW you still gain 1 unit .
     
  5. soxfan

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    Actually, that is not correct. Betting flat winnings is ideal but you can win well and regular using a deep negative progression but positive progressions are worths-less, hey hey.
     
  6. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Yup, makes senses to me, hey hey.
     
  7. Zhang Wei

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    Positive progressions are better than flat betting.
    Flat betting is better than negative progressions.
     

  8. Jimske

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    This is theoretically correct and correct from a practical perspective given the house limitations. That's why they exist, duh.

    Winning with progressions going to require some subjectivity. Read that as MM or luck if you eant.

    J
     
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  9. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Let's finally get something straight about flat betting. As long as the house as an edge you got to win more hands than lose. Another "duh" moment. So... without a DEFINED advantage you ain't gonna win flat.

    On the B side you're going to have to increase the strike rate from 507 to 512 to gain maybe a 1.5 unit win per 100 chances. That's increasing the win rate bt about 1.15%.

    Well, the same is true for the P side. Take the 493 strike rate and increase by about 1.15% and you can get the same snall advantage.

    If you can guess one you should be able to guess the other!

    It's a betting and guessing game! Flat or progressive.

    J
     
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  10. porky

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    The last line needs read a hundred times before sitting at a table.

    Also it continually gets posted in threads how Oscar's Grind is a positive progression. After losing say five in a row and winning one Whats the move?'s going up by one this is not a positive progression going up on one win is negative. Then If and that's if you hit the two you now have three won units being down still two you go up another unit. That's a negative progression.

    While everyone says you can't win if you don't flat bet. Well if you sit on your hands hitting lwlwlw or llwllwllw the lack of a negative progression would be a major error in judgement.[/QUOTE]
     
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  12. soxfan

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    Complete, utter, low-iq imbecility, as expected, hey hey!!!!
     
  13. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Right on cue! Our resident troll and bullshit artist pivots to ad homenim attacks rather than detail any kind of substance. Taking a page from ypur psychopath hero? You are as pathetic as he is even if you got some believers here. Pffffff
     
  14. soxfan

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    Well, Zeus willing yer spidey-sense won't give out on ya and you can go another 10 20 50 year without having a single losing session. I never thought that anyone could out-do the al-relax as far a s retardation is conerned but yer right up there with him, hey hey.
     

  15. soxfan

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    Nope, positive progessions are trashes especially those what are aggressive, hey hey.
     
  16. Zhang Wei

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    OG increases on wins & doesn't increase on losses. Negative progression increases on losses & doesn't increase on wins. So what shit are you saying?
     
  17. Zhang Wei

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    Too bad for you then.
     
  18. soxfan

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    Bbbwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaah, yer a life-times losing player and I'm a life-times winnings player so too bad fer you, hey hey!!!!
     
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    OG increases on wins & doesn't increase on losses. Negative progression increases on losses & doesn't increase on wins. So what shit are you saying?[/QUOTE]

    Thats the beauty of positive progression you can recover fast and winning fast during winning bias. The positive progression i like and tweak for my liking is SKAKUS & SPRINT. Positive progression can give jackpot win like SLOT MACHINE. Negative Progression with periodic increase strategy like 1075 use in SPRINTis very good.
     
  20. porky

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    OG increases on wins & doesn't increase on losses. Negative progression increases on losses & doesn't increase on wins. So what shit are you saying?[/QUOTE]
     

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