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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. baccarou

    baccarou Active Member

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    So take a look at this game.

    1. 6 (1)
    2. 2 (1)
    3. 6 (2)
    4. 2 (2)
    5. 2 (3)
    6. 4 (1)
    7. 3 (1)
    8. 4 (2)
    9. 4 (3)
    10. 3 (2)
    11. 4 (4)
    12. 6 (3)
    13. 3 (3)
    14. 5 (1)
    15. 5 (2)

    So breaking that down.

    1) 0
    2) 3
    3) 3
    4) 4
    5) 2
    6) 3

    4,3,3,3,2,0.

    Now for the interesting bit....

    Screenshot 2023-10-18 152537.png

    I see this in just about every chart.

    The hottest numbers are naturally going to move from right to left unless you get a chart where the hot numbers jump out of the gate quickly and are dominant repeating in the first 2 columns.
     
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  2. baccarou

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    Another one...

    Screenshot 2023-10-18 154424.png

    Plus a dominant first and second column as a bonus!
     
  3. baccarou

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    In the first pic 2 posts up, there was also another one with the 4 going from right to left on spins 9 to 11.

    These are something you can look out for and take advantage from. You won't get bets every spin because of how the chart fills out and you don't end up chasing bets either.
     
  4. baccarou

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    The 70% is for the top 3 lines in a range of 15 spins.

    So for example:

    4,4,2,2,2,1 (10 vs 5)
    4,4,3,2,1,1 (11 vs 4)
    5,4,2,2,1,1 (11 vs 4)
    4,3,3,2,2,1 (10 vs 5)
    6,6,2,1,0,0 (14 vs 1)
    5,5,2,2,1,0 (12 vs 3)
    4,4,3,2,1,1 (11 vs 4)
    4,4,3,2,1,1 (11 vs 4)
    4,4,3,3,1,0 (11 vs 4)
    5,4,2,2,1,1 (11 vs 4)
    4,4,3,3,1,0 (11 vs 4)
    4,3,3,2,2,1 (10 vs 5)

    Top 3 = 133 vs 47 = 65% on that quick test for top 3 vs 35% for bottom 3.
     
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  5. baccarou

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    To show how a game would work with the arrows moving from Right to Left.

    Screenshot 2023-10-18 164728.png

    Here is the boxes in alphabetical order.

    Now for the game.

    Screenshot 2023-10-18 165052.png

    1. 6 (1)
    2. 2 (1)
    3. 6 (2) Bet on the 2 in A2 = loss -1
    4. 2 (2)
    5. 2 (3) Bet on the 2 in A3 = win +5
    6. 4 (1)
    7. 3 (1)
    8. 4 (2) Bet on the 3 in C2 = loss -1
    9. 4 (3) Bet on the 4 in B3 = win +5
    10. 3 (2) Bet on the 4 in A4 = loss -1
    11. 4 (4) Bet on the 3 in C3 and bet on the 4 in A4 = win +4
    12. 6 (3) Bet on the 3 in C3 = loss -1
    13. 3 (3) Bet on the 6 in B4 = loss -1
    14. 5 (1) Bet on the 6 in B4 = loss -1
    15. 5 (2) Bet on the 6 in B4 = loss -1

    Result = +7.

    Cheers
     
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  6. baccarou

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    Screenshot 2023-10-18 174744.png

    Another game here.

    1. 6 (1)
    2. 5 (2)
    3. 4 (1) Bet on the 5 in A2 loss -1
    4. 3 (1) Bet on the 5 in A2 loss -1
    5. 3 (2) Bet on the 5 in A2 loss -1
    6. 2 (1) Bet on the 4 in B2 loss -1
    7. 2 (2) Bet on the 4 in B2 loss -1
    8. 2 (3) Bet on the 2 in A3 win +5
    9. 2 (4)
    10. 3 (3)
    11. 3 (4)
    12. 1 (1) Bet on the 3 in A5 loss -1
    13. 3 (5) Bet on the 3 in A5 win +5
    14. 2 (5)
    15. 2 (6) Bet on the 2 in A6 win +5

    Result = +9

    Admittedly, that was a good one and it's also rare to get a 6 and 5 as the two top lines in 15 spins. (Those were the first 15 numbers from Table 4 Today at Wiesbaden)

    Cheers
     
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  7. baccarou

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    Where am I at with this?

    I have done a ton of research/testing over the last 24 hours and I really like the idea as shown above with the arrows moving from right to left.

    After converting things from the lines into groups of 4 numbers, it got even better!

    Screenshot 2023-10-20 213903.png

    The 4 number groups comes to a total of 9.

    1. 1/4, 2/3
    2. 5/6, 7/8
    3. 9/12, 10/11
    4. 13/16, 14/15
    5. 17/18, 19/20
    6. 21/24, 22/23
    7. 25/28, 26/27
    8. 29/30, 31/32
    9. 33/36, 34/35

    Playing a combination of the arrows from right to left and the repeating numbers in the Columns makes this a pretty powerful method and so there isn't much left for me to say on it.

    For anyone wondering about the 9 groups, they will complete roughly in 31 spins. 7,5,4,4,3,3,2,2,1.

    Thanks again Turbo for the inspiration on this one.
     
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  8. Quos

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    Hi baccarou,
    when you stop betting on the repetitions of each column?. could you show some example?
    Thanks in advance!!!!
     
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    @Denzie are you looking at just top 3 from each "lap" or more reoeaters in your play?
    Some stats from my recorda:
    2 matches happen 50% of time
    3 matches 26% of the time
    At least 2 matches show 76% of the time

    Repeats based on position in previous lap
    Leader showing again in next lap (in any position 1 2,3) happens 76.5%
    Number in 2nd position shows again 69%
    Nimber in 3rd position shows again 55%
     
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    Ho Gigi,
    You say top 1 of each lap appear in position 2 of the next lap 69%?

    Thanks!
     
  12. Gigi666

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    No, number from 2nd position repeats again as one of top 3 in next lap, so if

    2x 12, 25, 13

    You have 69% chance 25 will show in 3x row. Could become a leader but could also move to 3rd position.
     
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  13. Denzie

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    I'm using top 5 and looking how the numbers move from right to left , left to right or remain the same and bet accordingly. Just making predictions and bet at the right time. About the progression you shouldn't just go in with that negative progression you talked about in the other thread. You could for example bet per session instead of per lap...(how many losing sessions in a row you ever encountered? ) ... And when the laps going smoothly you should definitely up the stakes . A fixed br per session and a total fixed br for let's say 10 sessions.....

    My advice would be to play tons of sessions and look how your sheets getting filled in .... notice what's going on and build your betting around it.

    Also notice if your numbers form a split or whatever and go get them with a lot of chips
     
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    Nice to see you around @Denzie
     
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  15. Gigi666

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    That makes sense and happy you've made same observations interms of numbers moving somewhat "predictably" through various positions.
    I had decent results playing only numbers that repeated from previous lap , but those that "lead" a particular column also could work with the session approach you've described, since it seems impossible to win every single one.

    I also probably too often try to beat rng tables that often throw those nightmare sessions with 4x not hitting until spin 70, rather than just focus on live dealer.
    In general I've been focusing on top 4, but will revisit top 5 again. Thanks for a constructive feedback.

    One thing I guess I still need to figure out is the stopping point, so far it seems target number of "new highs" is better than a specific profit, or if leader goes 2 hits in front its often good to.just finish the session.
     
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  16. Denzie

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    Also keep in mind the stats of when a 2x , 3x , 4x , etc hits on average. For example I don't bet for a 3x before spin 18. I might miss a hit yes but more often than not it's the best decision. When to stop ? I'm mostly done under 74 spins because if it takes longer it means those numbers switching to much , to many 1's in the matches column and the gaps get bigger. So i will reset and start over...Bring 100u to win 100u or more . Again...how many sessions you can lose in a row :) .

    I'm talking about laps , games and sessions.
    A lap is clear right ?
    A game is my 100u start br win or lose
    A session is when I stop for the day in profit because I ALWAYS win more games than I lost

    Fill in your sheets and make predictions with some common sense. I don't bet every number or spin .... I bet when it's time to bet or not bet at all....
     
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    I love watching people CATCHING UP to me (lol). Its kinda cute in a way.

    Ken
     
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    I guess if I'd show you those few emails I've sent to Turbo they were all touching on the points you've mentioned.
    - I've an avg spin window identified for each lap so as you said while you can catch a 3x before spin 18 (my avg spin for 3x is 23) I could only target a set "window"(I agree from observation that aneven spread and swapping numbers from lap to lap often continue for a long time so quitting early is a good solution just sometimes hard to execute on, but that's the gambling problem )
    - usual "game" length (although what you call a game is my 1 session, so I'm guessing your session br is br for a group of consecutively played games in one day and knowing how often these ended in a loss for you, you've built your total bankroll around and increased stakes for next session only or between games? If it was between games I'd probably increase base stake by +1 after 2 lost games in a row)
    - positional play from lap to lap for example
    3x 23 12 36 4
    4x 12 8 36 23
    5x 23 36 4 12
    Bold indicates when I could start playing the number based on how it moved from lap to lap or as in case of 23 because it repeats in first column, you can add a stopping point when 2 matches happen etc. again a lot of ways to cut this cake (I guess the main issue for me to decide on which way to do it more so then when to start betting)
    - target for each game , thats probably hardest. I can in theory win more games than lose even flat betting, but finding optimal point of reset is the hardest part. I won 20 games aiming for any new high making 200+u profit but then had a bad game with -300u (retrospectively should've quit around spin 74 already where there were only 2 4x and an indication this is not an avg spread and it can only get worse)
    Need to work I guess around finding a better "game" exit point for both in profit and in a loss scenarios.
     
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  19. Denzie

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    My avg for the first 3x is at spin 24 ...so that's a pretty solid stat.

    I increase between games not sessions. I'm always in profit when the session is done .

    I increase also in a game going from 2x to 3x to 4x to 5x ....especially if things going smoothly

    When I see the numbers not falling around the avg stats I become careful with my betting. In your example if you don't reach a 5x by spin 74....you might wanna think about resetting. If at a certain point you get a lot (for example) 4x I might hold the bets too...There's no shame in resetting.

    That's what I mean by using common sense. My exit point is 100u or close to it. If I won for example 91u I might stop right there. Mostly I'll stick around for a couple of spins though to play virtually and keep filling in my sheet . And if things going right I place more bets to hit over my 100u goal and probably end around 130-160u

    TG is probably playing it differently but we definitely on the same numbers. It just has to be ...

    And yes ...a good progression is gold here
     
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  20. Denzie

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    Couldn't find anything you posted that actually works. But keep patting yourself on the back though. I'm not gonna get more into this because well....I'm done fighting with internet heroes ;)

    Have at it....3...2....1....gooooo
     
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