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Baccarat Play for a living

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Johndepz, Nov 9, 2023.

  1. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    does anyone actually play this game for a living? I know a few people who do on rulette bur will share their secrets. and obv card counters on bj
     
  2. soxfan

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    I have devoted close to 14 year of my life to buckin up against the baccarats, very profitably on the fulls-timed basis, hey hey.
     
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  3. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    can u teach me the way hey hey
     
  4. Loser

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    Would like to know your system. Thanks
     
  5. Jake0628

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    Bank on it
     
  6. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    teach
     
  7. soxfan

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    Why, it wouldn't do you any good, hey hey.
     
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  8. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
  9. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Lol
    No need to wonder why
     
  10. Zhang Wei

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    Soxfan will never teach.
     
  11. Johndepz

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    bc he dont win nor does he speak english hey hey lmaoo
     
  12. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    It’s not that at all.
    why in heavens name would anyone want to spend any more time and effort on Jon ?
    Jon has been given a whorey gale for FREE by as Jon calls him a great wonderful man member scentanal. That Whorey gale of whorey gale is as simple as all fuck to understand, it’s been in the works of many people for many decades YET Jon can’t get it to work. It was set out on a dinner plate, bib and napkin supplied, spoon feed to him a la choo choo train style , you know how you spoon feed kids to eat their veggies.
    Do you honestly believe Jon would be able to understand “ bet on bank” ? That would be a 150 page email back and forth. No you can’t teach a moron at the best of times let alone want to waste time on Jon.
    Jon do yourself a favour stop posting, it’s embarrassing and you are not doing scentanal any favours , your hardly a “user friendly” product endorsement worthy of posting on the cunterverse to get more degenerates to buy scentanal systems.
    I hope a lot of people sign up and get the 2 extra supplement whorey gales.
     
  13. Duongban1984

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    Have. I'm still making a living from bacarat every day. My daily goal is to enter 3-4 times (I bet online), each time my winning goal is 5-6 units or more. And I'm still struggling to make my method more stable and bring better profits. especially safer. I also have another job, but for me, bacarat is a joy, a love and a place where I can accumulate more assets if possible. I always hope to have more experiences and lessons from those who have gone before me. I have been playing baccarat for 15 years. and there was a part where I played sports betting for 2 years. I come from Vietnam. My English is not good. I use Google translate
     
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  14. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Good work and good luck to you. cheers
     

  15. Duongban1984

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    Thank you very much and your best wishes. I really appreciate that.
    bacarat is randomness, but it is an arranged randomness. I believe it. Anyone who has ever played soccer bets can see that a weak team can win against a strong team, and consider it a coincidence. I have earned a lot of money from those coincidences. Asian people have 1 sentence. What cannot be bought with money, can be bought with a lot of money. Therefore, in my opinion, any betting selection method, any money management method will have dark days/times. The important thing is that we recognize that dark time, and use all means to minimize losses during that time of loss. And we have to accept the loss at that dark time. sunshine after the rain. I haven't completely done that yet. only about 30%-40%. Only rigid principles drawn from harsh practical lessons, and adhered to by us, will help us. And I'm looking for and increasingly perfecting those principles. my own thoughts. If it's not correct, please ignore it.
     
  16. Duongban1984

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    Great topic but very little content. Play to make a living, play to accumulate experience, assets... I'm serious about this.
     
  17. baccarou

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    Well, certain arrangements tend to give us some worthwhile opportunities during a shoe. It's just a case of identifying them and then hoping we can ride them for a few hands before they morph into something else.

    Let's take the 87.5% covering 1's, 2's and 3's as most likely to happen in a shoe. If you are able to run multiple streams (a bit like the derived roads) one of those streams is going to behave in line with the 87.5% and so it becomes a bit easier to plot your way through it. It's all in the timing with a little bit of patience thrown in for the times when it's just not happening. When it is happening, you can get some nice ratios of events which for me run at around 3/1 and so there is a lot of leeway there to identify it, play it an then watch it tail off. Even flat betting, you are going to capture a few units.

    This is the essence of it all if you ever want to play seriously IMO. Spend time understanding the game and how a shoe presents opportunities. MM (while obviously important) doesn't help you to understand the game any better and will take care of itself once someone understands the game more.
     
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  18. baccarou

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    I could be wrong, but I am sure Jimske said somewhere that he monitors 6 streams in his play. Porky judging by what he wrote had multiple sets of information to guide his betting decisions. Gizmo tracks multiple streams to arrive at his bets. There are a few of us doing it successfully. I also monitor 6 streams but only really use 4 of them for betting purposes. The other 2 are more for information which helps with the input for the other 4.

    It's not unusual to get some strong ratios even in half a shoe. The last one I played had two different sections producing a 16/22 and the other was 12/18 for a total of 28/40 and so just slightly less than 3/1 in favour of one thing over another. It's one of the reasons why I am not a fan of return to the mean. You don't need to sit on your hands waiting for extreme events in a conventional B/P setting. Create your own and you are out of there a lot of the time after 40 decisions with a few units if you are happy with that. (most people aren't)
     
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  19. Duongban1984

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    I'm trying to read to understand what you're saying. Because I used google translate, maybe the real meaning was translated differently. I don't grasp the exact information you want to convey.
     
  20. baccarou

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    What I am trying to convey here in the 'play for a living' thread is that to actually play for a living (baccarat) you need to understand the game first. Many people buy books teaching them how to win at table games and get misled because the author doesn't understand the game he is advocating and instead is relying on some bullshit up as you lose progression which really when you think about it has absolutely nothing to do with any table game and is only a vehicle of how to bet your money.

    So I am trying to put across this important distinction. The question then is ''so ok, how do I learn more about Baccarat itself then?''

    As I said above, you have to find a way to identify how things can go out of skew and one way to do it using multiple streams whether you use the derived roads or create your own is up to you. If you take the derived roads as an example, you can see many times that practically a whole shoe can confirm to the 87.5% rule meaning all 1's, 2's and 3's. Maybe the P's are only coming in 1's, maybe the B's are always showing at least 2 in a row. It's a bit simplistic but you are trying to capture what's currently happening as opposed to just betting blind and betting more and more money if something's not working.

    As an example from one of my recent cards. 5 hands in and this is what appeared.

    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P

    That's 7 B vs 7 P. (BALANCED) So the question again is how do you create an INBALANCE here so you can get in and out with hopefully a few units of profit. I had WW LL WWWWW L W L WW and so that's 10 vs 4. You can work with that kind of ratio and capture a few units. Do it consistently, even allowing for a few losses and you can win (flat betting) and then I think you are able to say you could do it for a living if you really wanted to.
     
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