TurboGenius Note Keeping From Live Play

I think result of your session is $560 but with progression and not flat bet.

14.000 / 250 = 56 units.

I'm right?

 

I think you are, yes. I didn't play it flat bet on RS but used splits added in to boost a big win.
If it's -22 units then I would be ok with that as a loss considering the overall profits

 

Session summary ( $10 flat bet ):

1st day $860 71 spins
2nd day -$70 143 spins
3rd day $570 101 spins
4th day $710 94 spins
5th day -$220 82 spins

Total of 5 days = $1850 (185 units) and 491 spins.

 

OK Turbo, define what a match is combined with a goal, I still dont comprehend the logic.

To me, a match is when the played number hits & the goal is some amount of units = cease bet(s) → move to the next X, as a trigger to resue the play (from tracking-mode only).


Seems you are using the goal in a different way, a goal being something else. Thereof I do not comprehend why do you ease betting both numbers on the first few instances when one of them hits making fewer units of profit, & would that be ac correct word .. counter-intuitively .. on the last pair hit, despite making more profit with a hit achieved sooner you dismiss on one number, the one that hit.

This is the logic I still do not comprehend & I would appreciate if you clarify.

 

Great info in here

 

Maybe but still hard to build a long term profitable system around "playing for matches" whether using leaders in dozens or just plain top 3 numbers

 

That's why we use a progression . I know most cats love to see flat-betting but I'm doing repeaters with progression and it seems to work just fine

 

I guess I can see how it could work but with negative progression (increase stake the bigger the spin gap without a win/match to previous lap) although that always poses a threat of ruin with some nasty session.

 

My max gap is 35 spins while "losing" units

 

The only thing I would do different is playing the lead number too if it's on his solo trip to the top. I keep note of all my sessions and to many units being missed betting only AFTER a new line starts . Going for 2 in the matches column with +2 on a loss and +1 on a win progression for example. Reset the session on time because nobody plays till 20x .

Happy holidays

 

About the gaps...how big are those gaps going from 1x to let's say 5x ? Are they really that big ?

 

They can get lengthy if no matches happen, even 20 spins gap if you're already playing 5 numbers (3 for example from 3x and 2 from 4x that were not matches). I guess what I'm continously struggling with is building the right prog that can balance out reasonable profit vs bankroll needed.

 

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It can get over 30, but to be fair that probably happens early on mostly as matches likely not happening from 1x to 2x
That particular session I didn't wait until 2 matches in a lap as 6 hit twice and already at high stake.

 

That's why I start with small units. I know the hits going to come . The more spins rolling off the more accurate my predictions are becoming. Don't go to fast with your progression! Calculate your bets accordingly !!! Fight yourself first instead of that 2,7%

 

We have caculated this before havent we? How many candidates are there (on average) on 2x how many spins does it take (on average) from 2x to 3x.

Example there are 4 candidates on 2x. There is a winner. The total spins it took for all 4 candidates combined is 36 (on average) with the same extreme gaps as betting random!

I've tested all variations. All 4 candidates on 2x 3x 4x etc etc All 5 candidates on 2x 3x 4x etc etc All x candidates on 2x 3x 4x etc etc. Playing all candidates will always yield 36 spins (on average)

So i've tested all positions for the candidates because playing them all will not make a profit. Meaning if there are 4 candidates which position if winning more or less. Nope they are all the same.

Tested for example where is the winner from 6x in 1x, it is never at position 36, I believe it went something to max 28 (from my head) So according to turbo's logic this would mean you chances are now 1 in 28 for being on the winner! Right? Well lets play this, randomly pick a position from 1 to 28 till 6x. How many times do I end up on the winner? Well you guessed it 1 in 28! And how many spins did it take on average? 36! How is that possible??? I'm winning more races? Because If you are not on the winner (from 1 in 28) it will on average take more spins! Well then stop early if you're not on the winner right? Nope did not work also.

You see, this is such a small portion of all the variations/variables I came up with (I tested more than 100 variables) and they all lead to 1:36...unfortunatly...

 

How many candidates in this post ? 1 to max 4

You tested 100 variables but do you actually know where to look for ? How did you use the progression? How is it possible with TG's logic he made first place ? Luck ? Did you play every spin ? Do you look at averages in gaps and what to expect? Do you consider the matches column?

As I've mentioned b4...play a lot of sessions and see the obvious slapping you in the face . Don't go play to mechanical coz it will bite you. I'm not 100% sure how TG'S playing but I'm definitely on a long term winning spree....

Happy new year

 

I did not use a progression just flat bet. Like i said before if you knew for sure that it did not went past x spins then yes you could use a progression. however my result was the same as random.

TG making first place ( all i saw was a screenshot) It was clear his account had 50 resets ... in real live there are no resets.

I played many many many sessions and saw lots of things and yes playing mechanical thats the only way to test. What is the opposite according to you?

Yes I did play every spin and looked at the gaps. And looked in great detail at the matches. Yes I was right on many occasions ( just like gigi666) but then there is a session when there are big gaps with not so many matches and boom its 1:36

 

The max gap is 35 spins. No need to drag a number any longer. Progression is key ! How many 35 spins gap you gonna have ? 1 ? 2 ? More ? Common man.....

See what's happening and act accordingly.

 

I agree, not sure what @Denzie means by not playing mechanical. If you've a set of rules you follow, which from what you write you do, thats a mechanical play that could be coded to. Unless you sometimes increase stake by 1u other time by 5u without any particular reason, which I'm sure you don't.
As for the 35 spins max gap, I thought you referred to it in terms of matches happening not dropping a single number from play (which I recall you wrote you dont care really about dropping numbers). Not trying to be a dick, just piecing the hints together.

@Ka2 have you tested stopping your sessions at certain point like spin count or profit/loss level. If more matches come at certain laps like from 4x to 8x, prog could help max the intake as long as those events happen more often than not (2+ matches do happen more often than not in general, we know that). Gaps of course are an issue, but if you include valid stop conditions it could work.

 

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