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TurboGenius Note Keeping From Live Play

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Aug 28, 2023.

  1. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

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    Denzie counts his gap for a group not single number plus no one is saying it has to be that. For me applying that large gap as a stop seems to big, but there is no denying when hits start coming they come in groups often under 10 spins apart.
    Until I test more its hard to decide, go for bigger profit like 100u+ or take any first profit but then whats the loss limit if indeed you hit a bad one session and losers all the way?
     
  2. Denzie

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    OK my last input. Last but not least....
    Good luck in your search
     
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  3. Yoigo

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    I also want to make my contribution to this thread, Turbo left it written that only 2 pinches of salt were needed to make his system work. I don't know if I'm playing like him but with what Denzie said there is something that happens between 5x and 6x from 4x At 5x it also happens if they investigate they will have the 2 pinches of salt that Turbo was talking about.
    I only play 1 certain in a session of 70 75 spins.
    Good luck to you all.
     
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  4. Gigi666

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    Well here I would not even had a chance to take first profit, usual occurrence almost as soon as you go play with live cash.
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    One could say why did I build up so much loss initially, but I was following the way I played a variation on how TG increased his stakes based on matches in lap and you can see early on it was quite poor. Then I guess stake was not big enough on 25 to make it go into profit, so unless I started later from 4x (25 hit 4x at spin 55, so quite late and later when 25 hit 8x on spin 119 there was no 9x until the end of my session at spin 170) or increased stakes later by much more than the usual amount in all my previous tests or stop after a much smaller number of spins than 35, don't see how I could win here.
    I mean I know how I could as mentioned with later start, but aren't we always going to hit some variation that kills it? I purposefully did not stop at spin 100 here (would be -572u down then) to see how it unfolds. Made +145u from first 4 live sessions (fyi I was not playing till 100u)
     
  6. Denzie

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    So to recap:
    #25 hit 8 times in 119 spins and you lost ? So from spin 55 till 119 it hits 4 times. Ummmm , you might want to recheck the way you play . Don't bet real money till you can win 100 sessions.
     
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  7. Gigi666

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    I'm starting to think your stake increases after a run of laps with little to no matches is much higher than what I do, so that any quick win gets you in profit or max 2 hits.
     
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  8. KarlAtwo

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    With all respect but I dont think you understand what I'm trying to say.

    a. You play your system

    b. Anytime according to your rules you would normally play a number or a group of numbers, you swap it for a random number(s) anytime you would normally stop you will stop with the random number(s)

    c. anytime you need to raise the stakes according to your rules. Increase the stake on a random number.

    after x amount of sessions you will see there is no change in your data.

    Also

    The data is already clear that for example there are 3 numbers on lap 5 and there is a winner. combined is 1:36. If we then look at the data is there a number / position that behave differently when there are 3 numbers on lap 5 and there is a winner, there is no difference between them. What if there are 6 candidates on lap 4 when there are 3 candidates on lap 5 and one wins? what if there are 7 on lap 4? what if there x? on 4 what if there are x on 4 and x on 3??? etc etc etc

    You see if you calculate all variations. Which I did. You will see there will be no chance than by betting random. Your progression is saving you at the moment.

    Again with all respect even a martingale can go a long way before it will go bust.
     
  9. Denzie

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    Let's agree to disagree :) and leave it at that.
     
  10. Gigi666

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    Maybe I've solved the problem @Denzie , since my progression based of how many matches where in prev lap was mechanical ie. +3u if 0 matches, +2 if 1 match etc. or variations of it, at a bad early run like that session had, eventually it was not having a high enough stake to get back into any profit with 25, plus I was also not dropping a lap after 2 matches happened so often running along for a 3rd match that is not needed and more often than not builds up losses.
    Increasing the stake as matches perform poorly after lap closes (similarly to TG's video) but to a level that gives a chance to go into profit in max 2 wins (that we know if things get back to average even for a short group of spins does give 2-4 wins in short span) seems to do the job... of course until a session from hell comes, so need to test how low bank would go with that approach if things continue to spit low number of matches (Does not happen often but seen few of those that by lap 7x there were no 2 matches).
     
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    Further than that, one can probably reset the stake on any profit but keep playing the same "race" and grab few more wins on higher laps if ie. you have hit early win on laps 2-3x.
     
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  13. Gigi666

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    I did play around earlier playing more and I think it can work especially if taking into account 1/2/5/7/30, but its too many numbers for my liking and practicality.

    @Denzie played through all the spin files I tested before and all of them produced at least 2 points of exit in profit even the difficult files for repeats, so around 50 sessions with usual profit of 25u+. My aim is to get 2 matches or two hits in profit as often the leader just goes on, so no point to chase 2 matches. In rarer occasions where gaps start growing having 2 matches might not be enough to get into profit in one go, but stats are in our favor here since you always get more than 2 laps with 2+ matches. Needs more testing just to see how low bankroll might get if the session from hell comes. Thanks for your constructive criticism
     
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  14. Denzie

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  16. Gigi666

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    Play it like you mean it Denzie for once, keep it visible for 24h then hide. Plus no one but 2-3 even believe you are profitable so no risk anyone will copy you and most won't even figure it out. Make it a gift for 2024 a handful of people happy :happy: And we can party in Thailand in 12 months
     
  17. Denzie

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    If you can't make it work in 1x to 20x ...go to 30x (more clicks on the Geiger counter) . Check the avg between 1x to 30x . Check in between on 1x to 10x and again from 11x to 20x ..... know what to expect in 21x to 30x on avg.... make calculated predictions and bet accordingly with a progression that can stand the avg hit ratio. If you scared of the very few # still left in play to switch a lot...bet them all or don't bet till you're sure ...

    Make accurate predictions and know the averages. If the hit ratio is for example 1: 30 with 1 or 2 numbers left....easy peasy

    Their...I nearly made the bets for you . See you in Thailand next year
     
  18. Denzie

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    It's working just fine but TG doesn't just hand out a step by step method. He set you on your way and let you work for it. First thing I've noticed was missing out on the leader. Secondly he was playing for 3 matches instead of 2 . Thirdly the progression....and so on
     
  19. Gigi666

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    One thing I could never get, how he can say, player will be right 80% of the time if clearly anyone that runs enough races sees its only 2/3 of the numbers matching the next lap. There is a higher stat in terms of how many laps have at least 2 matches, but thats still not being 80% of the time right.
    Anyway, Denzies comments are at least practical so need to test few variants (definitely not going to play 10x to 20x so surely not 20x to 30x heh)
    What costs me most are sessions with longer winless gaps (not even getting to 35 spins) as a group even with 3-5 numbers played it can add up very quickly and I tried diff progs, increase on win or increase on a no match, or pure negative increase to go in profit with any next win. Negative wont lose often, but then again the small wins if stakes reset on any profit arent always enough in long run
     
  20. Vinac367

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    Wouldnt loss limit then be those 35 spins he plays? If lost, up base units. How many in a row is it possible to lose?
     

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