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Baccarat 8 Pattern Horseracing

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Blacktiger, Feb 13, 2024.

  1. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    Second shoe: was down almost 7 units and rallied for a 2-unit win. This is flat betting. Applying my MM could make it a good strategy. Bravo @Blacktiger !
     
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  2. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    If you could explain your MM, I can test it too or rather apply to gain some more units.
     
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  3. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I have it in the Money Management thread I believe. If you don’t find it let me know and I’ll go looking for it as well.
     
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  4. Peterpan

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    I think that is the thread:
     
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  5. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    1st Test Baccarat Horses method:

    P
    B
    B (PATTERN PBB)
    B
    P
    P (PATTERN BPP)
    B
    B
    B(PATTERN BBB)
    B
    B
    P (BET PATTERN BBB) RED -1 (BALANCE -1)
    P
    B
    B (BET PATTERN PBB) GAIN +1 (BALANCE = 0)
    P
    B
    P (BET PATTERN PBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -1)
    P
    B
    P (BET PATTERN PBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -2)
    P
    B
    P (BET PATTERN PBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -3)
    B
    P
    B (BET PATTERN BPP) RED -1 (BALANCE = -4)
    P
    P
    B(PATTERN PPB)
    P
    B
    B (BET PATTERN PBB) GAIN +1 (BALANCE = -3)
    P
    B
    B (BET PATTERN PBB) GAIN+1 (BALANCE = -2)
    B
    B
    B (BET PATTERN BBB) GAIN +1 (BALANCE = -1)
    P
    B
    P (BET PATTERN PBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -2)
    B
    P
    B (BET PATTERN BPP) RED -1 (BALANCE = -3)
    B
    P
    P (BET PATTERN BPP) GAIN +1 (BALANCE = -2)
    B
    P
    B (BET PATTERN BPP) RED -1 (BALANCE = -3)
    P
    P
    P (BET PATTERN PPB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -4)
    P
    B
    B (BET PATTERN PBB) GAIN +1 (BALANCE = -3)
    B
    B
    P (BET PATTERN BBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -4)
    B
    B
    P (BET PATTERN BBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -5)
    P
    B
    B (BET PATTERN BBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -6)
    P
    B
    P (BET PATTERN PBB) RED -1 (BALANCE = -7)
    B
    B
    B

    I believe I played the right way (flatbet) could you confirm @Blacktiger

    Using the WL standard:
    And betting on Marty with 3 steps after LL (Trigger)
    L
    W
    L
    L(Trigger)
    L -1
    L -2 (Balance = -3)
    W +4 (Balance = +1)
    W
    W
    L
    L(Trigger)
    W +1 (Balance +2)
    L
    L(Trigger)
    W +1 (Balance +3)
    L
    L(Trigger)Shoe at the end avoid betting.
    L

    We got 3 units.

    This is just a test idea.
    For example, after losing a shoe, you can play the next one with twice the unit, and return to the normal unit when it is +1.

    I just wanted to show that bet selection is interesting and can be worked on in different ways.

    I'm short on time these days but I'll do more tests.
     
  6. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I lose 16 units on this example.
     
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  7. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    That's right way to do that.

    I will come back to your test idea later
     

  8. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    @Rond1nell1 check this safety brake.

    If any of the horses lose 3 times continuously. Stop betting for that group.

    Suppose BBB is our winner horse but while betting it lost 3 times continously. We will stop betting for this group. We will continue to bet on rest of the groups.

    Test this method. it might help
     
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  9. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    716 -9
    717 5
    718 -4
    719 11
    720 9
    721 4
    722 -1
    723 -6
    724 3
    725 7
    726 1
    727 5
    728 -4
    729 7
    730 -3
    731 -2
    732 -4
    733 0
    734 -5
    735 11
    736 0

    Latest Shoes results

    I am planning for two safety brakes

    1. 3 continuous losses in a group. -> turn off betting for that group.

    2. -7 total score - stop loss
     
  10. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    25 -8
    74 -9
    88 -12
    89 -11
    90 -8
    107 -8
    188 -10
    213 -9
    223 -8
    227 -8
    244 -11
    274 -10
    319 -16
    337 -9
    389 -10
    420 -9
    448 -9
    466 -9
    467 -10
    492 -11
    494 -8
    520 -8
    535 -8
    610 -10
    656 -10
    662 -8
    684 -9
    687 -10
    700 -8
    716 -9

    If we apply our second safety brake i.e -7 stop loss. We can get here +73 units in my total testing til now. This will make my total score +175 units (all flat betting)
     
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  11. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    Interesting results. I have a few more progression ideas. I noticed that there was a sequence of bad shoes 730,731,732.... If you could share the shoes from 730 to 736 so I can do some tests and I will publish them here.
     
  12. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    Shoe 730

    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
     
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  13. Blacktiger

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    Shoe 731


    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
     
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  14. Blacktiger

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    Shoe 732
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
     
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  15. Zen1th

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    @Blacktiger

    So you stop loss is -7 units. When you are winning, after how many units do you stop?
     
  16. Thaiwin79

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    If not stop loss. We will stop when the shoe end.
    Good luck!
     
  17. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    There is no stoppage when you are winning. However, if you have any idea for that. I would like to know about it. Thanks
     
  18. Blacktiger

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    I have also created a spreadsheet that calculates W/L registry for the whole shoe in one click. However, I am still confused which progression I should use for this system.
     
  19. Rond1nell1

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    Here is the first test of ideas:

    This is just an idea of betting after a virtual win.
    Trigger is a W.
    The idea is to take the W sequences in a row when you have them.

    Progression:
    We make the first bet with 1 unit, if we lose the next one we go with 2, if we lose the next one we go with 3. We reset to 1 unit when we are at 0x0 or in profit.
    And if we win, we will continue with a flat bet of 1 unit, trying to surf the W.

    And we avoid betting on the end of the shoe.


    My shoe
    L
    W (Trigger)
    L -1
    L
    L
    L
    W (Trigger)
    W +2 (We lose the first bet and go with 2 units)
    W +1 (We win and get + 1 and we will follow the W)
    L -1 (We lose and wait for the next trigger)
    L
    W (Trigger)
    L -1 (As we are +1 we continue with 1 unit bet)
    L
    W (Trigger)
    L -1 (We lost it and it's at the end of the shoe. We stop here)
    L
    L
    Balance -1

    Shoe 730
    L
    W
    W+1
    W+1
    L -1
    W
    W+1
    L -1
    L
    L
    L
    L
    L
    L
    W
    L
    Balance +1

    Shoe 731
    L
    L
    W
    L -1
    W
    W+2
    L -1
    W
    W+1
    W+1
    L -1
    L
    W
    L -1
    L
    L
    L
    L
    W
    L

    Balance 0

    Shoe 732

    W
    L -1
    W
    L -2
    L
    L
    L
    L
    L
    W
    W+3
    W+1
    W+1
    L -1
    W
    W+1
    W+1
    W+1
    W+1
    L -1
    Balance + 4

    Shoe 1 = -1
    Shoe 2 = +1
    Shoe 3 = 0
    Shoe 4 = +4

    At the end of 4 "Losing" shoes in flat bet, in the traditional bet, we managed to end up with 4 positive units.
    @Blacktiger Test this idea on your winning shoes and see how it performs.

    Note: I'm just sharing ideas to open new horizons of thoughts.
     
  20. Blacktiger

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    Thanks for the idea sir. I will update to you soon
     
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