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Baccarat Doubt regarding Gr8player's Progression

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Blacktiger, Mar 7, 2024.

  1. Blacktiger

    Blacktiger Active Member

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    Heard about 1111111, 2222222....till 5555555

    How do we reset at every level?

    Suppose I am at Level 2 i.e betting 2 units, then when should I reset back to 1 unit?

    A: as soon as I gain 2 units at level 2

    or

    B: as soon as I am positive overall
     
  2. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I would say when you get to a new profit level.
     
  3. Trung Nguyen

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    I think when we almost recovery level 1.
    - A: win +6u at lv 2 & back to lv1, we just only 1u more to neutral.
    - B: win +8u at lv 2 & back to lv1, already +1u.

    And bro, could I know which BS we could combine with this progression?
     
  4. gr8player

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    Good morning, fellas; I've just noticed this thread as I'm having breakfast @Mohegan. I'll be away for the weekend, but I will go into detail regarding my Gr8Player's Progression on Monday. In the interim, I wish you all the best.
     
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  5. Blacktiger

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    Legend speaks! I call this a privilege for me to have a discussion with you sir.
     
  6. soxfan

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    BBbbbwwwaaaaahhh, the gr8one still alive, amazing, sweet, hey hey!!!!
     
  7. Lousy Gambler

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    Don't you have better things to do in your life instead of living in a forum to reply to everyone's thread?

    Better yet, go play baccarat and make more money like you said you do. I would.
     

  8. judge

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    Lousy Gambler, glad to see you back! Missed your post!
     
  9. Lousy Gambler

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    My chimp is too strong for me to control and therefore I cannot get over being a lousy gambler; at least in non baccarat games.

    I lost 3K playing Pai Gow Tiles because I pressed doing negative progression betting up to $700 a hand when losing badly instead of just walking away. What's really stupid is that in the 2nd session, I won like 20 more hands than losses and I was flat betting $25 winning $500. If I bet $700 when I was on that winning streak, I would be up $14,000 minus the 5% commission.

    Fortunately, I won them all back plus more playing $100 minimum blackjack and baccarat. If I didn't mess up in Tiles, I would be up more than 3K in 2 days.

    IMHO, gambling has a lot to do with timing and luck; plus knowing when to press or use the right progression ONLY WHEN WINNING.

    There were only 2 x $100 minimum blackjack tables open at Caesars.

    I was playing with 3 other players for a total of 4 players on the left table while there were 2 players on the right table. I don't like to play with too many people, so I wanted to move over to the right table but I decided against it. Thank God I didn't move over to the right table.

    On the right table, the man playing the left side of the table lost $8,000+ and the man on the right side lost $5,000+ in one shoe. In the 2nd shoe, the left man lost the remaining $12,000 of the $20,000 marker he took out and the right man lost the remaining $2,500 of the $7,500 marker he took out.

    On my table, 2 of us won and 2 of us lost everything and since I was one of the 2 players who won, I was on the right seat. Not like baccarat, the seat you are on is everything in blackjack in my opinion.

    I found a new strategy in baccarat which no one ever talked about in this forum or anywhere else as far as I know; but then, I haven't read all the threads so it's very possible that it was already discussed.

    My new strategy doesn't make me win a lot and in fact it may hinder from winning at a higher rate. However, it does keep me from losing badly and just preventing losses makes me a consistent winner. I just have to tweak it to win at a higher clip.

    Last night at Caesars, my stratgey correctly predicted 14 out of 16 hands in a total chaos before I quit. The man to the right of me got his ass handed to him and asked me what I was doing to win so I told him but he didn't understand even though it's so simple. That's too bad.
     
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  10. porky

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    Just a quick note on this. There is nothing to doubt about the progression. Why? This progression fit the style of play that the man used. Extreme patience sometimes playing all night till he got the plays he wanted.
    For instance If a side had 2 singles he would bet the next time it showed to be a single.
    His progression was not a one shoe and done it would go often to several shoes...
    He kept track of the approximate distance what on what a particular bet would do. And if it quit performing to what he wanted he would drop it. I don't know how far he would go but if that single play was not delivering he would stop betting it. For how long don't know. He said once he would start playing a bet when it came back.
    This is an extremly tedious way to play. It is also one of the safest ways to play. But in a lot of casinos you can't sit for hours without betting.
    It caused a bit of a stir online because of his claims at over 50% strike rate. No bet in Baccarat delivers over 50 but selectively betting if your timing is right can.
     
  11. RouletteGhost

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    From what I remember, isn’t gr8player progression to flat bet 5 times then if down increase one unit another five times so on?
     
  12. Johndepz

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    i thought it was 6 in a row?
     
  13. jerry bell

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    This is a terrible progression , unless you want to play all day and hope to break even !!!
     
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  14. Johndepz

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    Wrong
     

  15. gr8player

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    My Gr8Player's Progression is the very best negative progression there is, as far as I'm concerned. I came up with it after extensive testing after a particularly poor performance trip at Trump Taj Mahal many years ago; every negative progression I tested either failed or needed much too many units of bankroll to recover, but my progression did the trick without needing to break the bank.

    Now, let me be very clear here, I generally flat-bet. I don't go into a session thinking I'm going to be needing my progression. But, that said, it's forever and always in my arsenal. As a matter of fact, IF I were ever put into a position where I felt that I needed to assure a winning session, it would be my Gr8Player's Progression that I would rely on towards that end.

    I am limited in time here but I'll try to lay out the basics right now as some of you seem a bit confused on it:

    It's a seven-series. Not 3, nor 5, nor 9 work as well. Only 7.

    So I start with a series of 7 one-unit bets.....1111111. And if I am at a plus after those 7 bets, I simply start another 7 series of one-unit bets.

    However, if the 7 series ends at a loss, so either a minus 1 (won 3, lost 4), or a minus 3 (won 2, lost 5), or a minus 5 (won 1, lost 6). or a minus 7 (won 0, lost 7), I'll move onto the next 7 series of bets, but this time with two units.....2222222.

    (Sidenote: Actually, usually in the instances of a "won 3, lost 4" result, so only a "minus one" at any level, I'll start another 7 series at the SAME unit size; I feel that there's little reason to raise my bets after only being down 1 unit after 7 bets. After all, there should be NO circumstance where we are in any particular hurry to raise our bets....much more preferring to "pay the price of time than paying the price of our bankroll".

    Now, once you've recovered at the next level, you go right back to level 1 and start a fresh new series of one-unit bets. For example, say, at level 1, you won only 2 bets but you lost 5 bets. OK, you're minus 3. Moving up to level 2, we start a new 7-series with our bets raised to 2 units each. IF you ever get to a "plus 2" on that level, meaning either you won the first two bets, or you won 3 out of the first 4 bets in that series, or you won 4 out of the first 6 bets in that series; you END the progression with a profit and IMMEDIATELY begin a new 7-series at level 1, with one-unit betting.

    There's more I can impart, fellas, but that's the basics provided just to clear up some confusion; I'm already late.....

    I hope this helps, and just know, I advocate no use of any negative progression....MINE included....to be followed without very strict bankroll conservation methodologies in place.

    Take care and be well.
     
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  16. cps10

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    This is similar to how I have been playing. I have other stipulations and I generally use 3 bets or 5 bets. I will start using 7 to see how better it fares. I will also keep my stipulations in there too. But I have found this kind of betting is very good for the bankroll and to grind out a win. There are too many people out there that are in a hurry to win, and that just isn’t possible. Any win is a good win no matter how large or small.
     
  17. Johndepz

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    what if you at level 7777777 and your down say 17 units and you go 4-3 on level 7 so you win 7 units and are now only down 10 units do you go to level 8 or back to 7 or lower to 6 or even 5?
     
  18. cps10

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    I’d go to 6 just in case you win 2 in a row you at least have some profit. Or hybrid: win your first bet at 6 then drop to 5.
     
  19. Sputnik

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    Well, I could explain the math and probability and the selection towards success.
    But yesterday I decided to stop sharing.
    When I read some parts on the forum from punters I understand the value behind my knowledge compared to others.

    You might feel the same way and that is fine by me.
    Nothing wrong with that.

    I also considering purchasing one methodology from one famous gambler.
    But after reading the introduction words behind the different concepts I got a lightning strike.

    Done that - check
    Done that - check
    Done that - check

    But he is clever and has great knowledge so I don't compare myself with him.
    I just realised that I have done research and completed some of the things he mentioned.

    Not all by myself - I also get inspiration from mentors and have one large library of gambling material.
    But when you read the board with some specific knowledge and concept you will have random bits in a box that you can control.
    Is like having the ground foundation for a house building - a complex matrix that can go in different directions depending one what kind of advantage you seeking and want to crack during your journey in front of the table.
    Is like a different languish, the private language that you speak and that no others understand and it opens up the random bits like a book for your eyes only.

    This can be shared, but why bother, creating money is not a simple task and when you crack it you don't give a fxxx about others.
    So I decided not to pay for the course that was a serious amount of money, more than most have in their bankroll, my assumption.

    I just saying that I prefer Holloway progression, similar but not the same and more conservative and effective than any other known staking plan.

    Cheers
     
  20. cps10

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    Patrik

    Do you have a synopsis of the Holloway? I used to have it but can’t locate it. I remember it being good.
     

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