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Baccarat MM BACARAT

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Duongban1984, Mar 11, 2024.

  1. Duongban1984

    Duongban1984 Member

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    I just finished making 1,600 pairs of shoes.
    TC has about 4,786 bets (Selective Banker Placement). The number of winning games is 870 more than losing (the ratio of winning the banker is ~50.9%.
    However, after deducting the 5% commission, I lost a total of 350 units. (Not deducting commission, my profit is 870 units).
    Actually, with a winning rate lower than 51.7%, I will lose money in the long run.
    workaround: can use negative MM to eliminate commissions in the long run.
    If I'm not mistaken, Sofun used MM in a star style before, but there was a risk of consecutive losing streaks. And now, Mr. Sofun follows MM flat betting, I'm afraid it's really difficult to win long term. It's also possible that you have good BS with a hit rate greater than 52%.
    Currently, I can only earn an average of 0.3-0.5 units/1 shoe (not including commission). This brings accumulated losses.
    Please let me know which MM can deliver wins in the long run with a hit rate of 50.7% and can overcome periods of consecutive losses.
    Sincerely thank you for all your comments and guidance.
     
  2. Duongban1984

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    Sorry Mr. Soxfan, it was a mistake when I typed on my phone and misspelled your name.
     
  3. Duongban1984

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    Bài viết trên là kết quả của những trò chơi trực tuyến có thật mà tôi đã chụp ảnh và lưu lại vào bất kỳ thời điểm nào. Tệp hình ảnh bên dưới là kết quả theo một PP hơi khác (vẫn chọn Banker với điều kiện) và kết quả thật đáng ngạc nhiên. - Với cược ngang, tỷ lệ thắng/thua của trò chơi là 66%/34% - Với MM tôi đang sử dụng, tỷ lệ tích cực 1-4-4, tỷ lệ thắng/thua là 39%/61%. Hóa ra việc đặt cược ngang về lâu dài sẽ tránh được nhiều chuỗi thua liên tiếp hơn so với MM hung hãn. với mức lợi nhuận gần như bằng nhau. khoảng 230-250 đơn vị cho 1.600 đôi giày với tổng số tiền đặt cược là ~48.000 cược. Tôi đã làm phép tính sai ở đâu? Tôi không thể tải lên tệp Excel. Dữ liệu rất lớn. Lợi nhuận này quá thấp so với kỳ vọng của tôi. Tôi phải tìm một MM âm phù hợp để tăng đơn vị lợi nhuận nhưng vẫn tránh thua lỗ trong thời gian dài.
     

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  4. Duongban1984

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    The above post is the result of real online games I have photographed and saved at any given time. The image file below is the result according to a slightly different PP (still selecting Banker with the condition), and the results are surprising. - With flat bets, the winning/losing game ratio is 66%/34% - With the MM I am using, which is aggressive 1-4-4, the win/loss ratio is 39%/61%. It turns out that flat betting in the long run will avoid more consecutive losing streaks than aggressive MM. with almost equal profits. about 230-250 units for 1,600 pairs of shoes with a total bet of ~48,000 bets. Where did I do the math wrong? I can't upload the Excel file. The data is huge. This profit is too low compared to my expectations. I have to find a suitable negative MM to increase profit units but still avoid long periods of losses.
     
  5. phuongmmo999

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    You only bet banker, No Player? and MM is Flatting bet?
    Also you bet selection option but the result not change

    I think we only bet when the shoe gives you a chance clearly.
    Ex: Only Bet Player from 2nd hand win player and stop when it break in right time.

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  6. Duongban1984

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    I don't bet on every hand. I have my own options to minimize Variance. 2. I am currently actively following MM 1.2.4. But there will be long stretches of losing that are really difficult. 3. History shows me that if I bet evenly and don't use MM, the profit margin will still be the same. So why use MM (will increase variance due to needing 3 consecutive wins). 4. The reason I think the method is effective, however, the profit is too low compared to other jobs. Previously, I used Active MM 1.2.4 and followed the ladder, which helped increase profit margins, but also increased Variance and risk.
     
  7. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi anh,

    With 50.9% win rate (Banker only BS), we even Loss when MM was Flat betting.

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    You played 1600 shoes (say 3 shoes/ day as normal). I'd been took us about 1.5 years to finish.
    And it was worse in your real case Loss -350 units due to Progressive MM.
    Seem you need question again this method.
     

  8. Duongban1984

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    Sorry, I was mistaken. is 47,860 bets. Average 30 bets per pair of shoes. And for that reason. I'm looking for a suitable negative MM. to enhance and eliminate the 5% Commission. But it also does not increase the Variance and does not increase the risk too high when we fall into a prolonged period of losses. That is the focus we need to discuss: which BS has low variance but still maintains a ~51% win rate, + 1 MM suitable for low risk. All that's left is for you to grind out as many pairs of shoes as possible.
     
  9. Trung Nguyen

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    In case of 47,860. Yes, you right. Same minus around -350 units as progression.
    I think The Issue is at the 51% win rate. At least the way that works need >53%. My method as Ex, win rate ~ 6/4. But at the end of the year, collecting note much +unit.
    Banker Only is not my style also, so I just wish you luck if you still want to stick to it.
     
  10. phuongmmo999

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    You are using a method that you only win 1 hand of 3 hands and inscrease amout after lose.
    So you need to find out a strategy you must win in around 3 hands.
    Actually I really hate chasing lose and increase money when losing.
    I like 3 bets place and 2, 3 winnings. About longtime its wonderful
    Good luck.
     
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  11. Zhang Wei

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    Losing 3 iar is very common.
    Nobody likes to chase losses.
    I prefer to flat bet through losing streaks or not bet at all.
     
  12. phuongmmo999

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    Yes. Right !
     
  13. Zhang Wei

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    There is a legend that d'alembert will never lose as long as the win rate is above 50%. Perhaps you can give this MM a try.
     
  14. phuongmmo999

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    Your mean: 11 22 33 44 right? What the stratege BS suitable for this MM? Can you share us?
    I like a UB to find out streak and HPB to drive streak or ping pong like hit and run.
     

  15. Zhang Wei

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    I'm referring to the standard d'alembert which is up 1 unit after a loss, down 1 unit after a win. Any BS with over 50% hit rate will supposedly work.
    What is UB & HPB?
     
  16. Duongban1984

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    Thank you for all your comments. i tried OG, But it was terrible. with hundreds of long card games. Although the loss rate is only 22 units, equivalent to a win rate of about 46.9% (not too bad) but OG lost 1,200 units), if you bet flat, you will lose about 22 units. Those are statistics on real card games I've ever played. Although using OG as Jae mentioned. virtual loss of 20 units. and starting from 5 units, each size increase is 1 unit. (I only increased it once on the first win). For example. I'm betting 20 units, if I win I will bet 21, +21, +21 and lose -21, -21, and win +21 again, I will increase to 22.
     

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