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Baccarat Wizard of odds 1000 shoe Baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Ezmark, Jun 30, 2024.

  1. baccarou

    baccarou Active Member

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    Going back to 303 and running through from hands 1 to 66 using an S/D stream.

    SSSSSSS (7)
    DDDDDD (6)
    SSSSS (5)
    DD (2)
    SS (2)
    DD (2)
    S (1)
    DDD (3)
    S (1)
    DDDDDD (6)
    SS (2)
    DD (2)
    SSSS (4)
    DDDD (4)
    S (1)
    DDDDD (5)
    SSS (3)
    DDDDD (5)
    S (1)
    DDD (3)

    It speaks for itself. Dominance on the runs and no single D either.

    I am not trying to be a smart arse or anything like that but the problem is that as players, we don't or can't always interpret the shoes to our advantage. That's the bottom line right there!
     
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  2. cps10

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    Lots of players don’t pick up on Dominance unfortunately
     
  3. Mars

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    Shoe #303 has so much clean 1x weaker side and jumping. It is not so common for an entire shoe to be like that.
     
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  4. Ezmark

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    I skipped down to wizard of odds #350.
    When I use my normal aggressive play, I lost - 11 ouch . However, if I play passive style betting less times, I won + 3 .
    #350 ... -11 aggressive ... or ... +3 passive.

    I remember the fairy tale story about the tortoise and the rabbit.
     
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  5. cps10

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    I’ll take a look at 350 as well.
     
  6. Ezmark

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    Without going into any great detail , my style play is mechanical formula based . Knowing ahead of time which side wins per hand is irrelevant in determining my score.

    It's not a sure thing, however, I gave up long ago and trying to feel or trying to guess my way through a game.
     
  7. soxfan

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    Just need the john-O to make the come-back and instruct us all as to the finer points of baccarats 101, for chap and bloke, hey hey.
     

  8. cps10

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    +6 my normal play and +13.55 with aggressive play.
     
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    Him and the Al-Relax
     
  10. baccarou

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    Sometimes betting less is more. It's better to play your game than their game.

    I played shoe 1 flat betting +20.

    It helped that from hand 4 to 30 produced a pretty strong B dom

    BBBB
    P
    BB
    P
    BBB
    P
    B
    P
    BBBBB
    P
    BBBB
    PP

    That was +12 right there. Followed up by a few nice runs on the 2's and ending with some runs on the D and S.

    I will go through some of the shoes and aim for 1 a day.
     
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  11. baccarou

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    It's a shame he's not around anymore. His trip reports were very entertaining and he certainly had a style about him!
     
  12. baccarou

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    By the way, for anybody wondering.....

    wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/1000-baccarat-shoes-8-deck.txt

    put that in your browser and you can test away!
     
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  13. soxfan

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    As I recall, the wizard shoe are computer generated. And I never, ever, EVER do any serious testings aga9inst computer generated, rng result, hey hey!!!!
     
  14. baccarou

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    I had a quick look at shoe 350.

    The S/D side was interesting.

    From hand 7

    SS
    DD
    SS
    DD
    SS

    Followed by an S run

    Then some chops

    D S D S D SS D S D SSS D S D S D S

    Then from hand 42 back to the Doms

    DD
    S
    DDDD
    S
    DD
    S
    D
    SS

    and then switching to the S dom to the end of the shoe

    S
    D
    SSS
    D
    SS
    D
    SSSS
    D
    SSSSSSS
    D

    An easy shoe for the flat bettors.

    This is why Jacobson's video on the roads is quite funny! He went down a dead end! :banghead:

    Anyway, I will stop with the running commentaries on random shoes and just stick to giving out my scores.

    cheers
     

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    One could explain to the class what that means. Many baccarat game apps use RNG so either the shoes are realistic or not. If their RNG system is replicated live play shoes then...?
     
  16. Ezmark

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    Way to go ! ... for me # 1 ... aggressively + 8... passively +2
     
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    Baccarou commentaries and Analysis are welcome . Years ago I learned valuable information by discussing different methods of play in this forum and one earlier forum.
     
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  18. baccarou

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    Cheers Ezmark, it's good sometimes to give context to something instead of just a score.

    Shoe 2 +13 flat betting.

    I have talked about doms for Banker/Player and Same/Different but what about the 2's. Well you can get some real good runs using the same principle.

    Here is a pic with an example.

    Screenshot 2024-08-28 203052.png

    As long as the wins are only interspersed by a single loss like in the pic above, I consider that a dom as well. The 2's kill a lot of systems because players don't account for them / know how to handle them. Well this way is as good as any I suppose.

    There were a few good runs of the 2's in dom mode in Shoe 2.

    If you run Bank and Player and Same and Different streams, you will get some good mileage playing for the doms.

    Then throw in when it's chopping and betting both sides and you are pretty much good to go. I run 6 streams and have things that I wait for / look out for before placing a bet. My aim is to catch a few runs per shoe which I inevitably do on most occasions and at worst lose a few units when my first bet attempts keep failing which does happen now and then.

    cheers
     
  19. saintpreaks

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    "Could you explain what DOM is? And if possible, could you share your favorite playstyle? I want to win."
     
  20. baccarou

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    The Dom is anything where there is a strong side and a weak side. The weak side is coming out in just singles.

    So for example...

    B
    B
    P (single P)
    B
    P (single P)
    B
    B
    B
    P (single P)
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P (double P and so now the B Dom is broken)

    This applies really for anything you can think about. You can use it for Player, Banker, Same, Different, 'terrible 2's. Those are the most well known and enough to be going on with. That's a playstyle all by itself.No shoe will playout without any Doms appearing in one fashion or another and you capitalise on them.
     

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