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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Nimo

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    Try looking at streets, and narrow the focus further than that.
     
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  2. Rheti

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    5 number bet is the big danger (4-5) 14X a profit-----------9x a loss (300 days)
    6 number bet 8 x a profit (4-5)-----2x a loss
     
  3. Gigi666

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    Streets been actually what I'm/was mostly exploring for a while , though trying to explore lott playing numbers within them.
    Even tried (though for a short while) waiting for 4x on a street before playing it which actually was showing good results altgough at times prog was needed. The benefit of street vs singles is a much shorter waiting time.
     
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  4. Gigi666

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    How about looking at "where" to apply a stop (start flat testing only), for example play until 4 numbers max on a 5th 4x show take a loss (that would fit into one of Eugene's tips that Turbo thumbed up, though I did explore that to death and it wasn't making much difference), maybe it'll work at that particular "lap"
     
  5. Rheti

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    cpmplete breakdown

    1 number 92 wins no loss
    2 number 76 wins 8 loss
    3 number 42 wins 9 loss
    4 number 27 wins 10 loss
    5 number 14 wins 9 loss
    6 number 8 wins 2 loss

    3 out of scope .... big loss

    overall 86% winning / not bad of course)
     
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  6. Nimo

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    Reread Advantage of repeaters part 1. (Huge clue in that post)
     
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  7. Rheti

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    breakdown 5-6

    1 number 106-0
    2 number 73-11
    3 number 35-14
    4 number 23-8
    5 number 13-8
    6 number 4-4

    1 out of scope big loss

    85% winning
     
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  8. Frank136

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    I understand that.
    On the other hand I thought: Holland casino is safe to meet for both and a conversation is harmless and way ‘quicker’ than chat.
    As your posts are sometimed cryptic to follow abd sometimes answers a bit confusing.
    So I had the best intentions for just a chat/talk and your work.
    And I am good at looking into it and familiar with some kind of ‘coding’. Excel suits me most as with AI assistance it is super.
     
  9. Gigi666

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    Only clue I'm seeing there is that you dont need to be on every number that is a candidate for a repeat after showing (although as he demonstrates this alone doesnt win flat). I guess I tried that before ie. having 5 candidates in 3x , I'd play 2 numbers only (tried various variations, top 2 , those with lowest min interval, biggest min interval wtc.) and if a different 3x goes to 4x I'd switch to that. As always what kills it is the spins between the hits.
    I also tried applying this recently to playing singles within a street.
    For example
    12 - play it as its a first show in 10-12 street
    7 - play it as first show in 7-9 street
    10 - remove 12 as repeat didn't happen (I also tried a variant to play first 2 shows in a street, or only first 2x in a street etc)
    7 - win
    And so on with other streets.

    I am either missing the big clue or applying it wrong or simply got lost in multitude in various testing options over the years.
     
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  10. Nimo

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    Applying it wrong. Top 3 as top 1
     
  11. Gigi666

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    I know you're trying to help and I appreciate that, maybe its my brain melted after work, as I'm not sure I understand.
    Are you saying to play top3, so as in my example
    Having 5 3x numbers:
    I play top 3 (so those that show first in 3x) for either of them to hit 4x before any other hits 4x first and then switch to playing 4x number
    OR
    I play top 3 until I get any win or new top3 numbers in 4x show (so when there are zero matches from 3x lap).
    Potentially treating the top 3 as a street and increase stake every 12 spins, as I doubt this would work flat, or as Turbo did only increase after a loss.
     
  12. Nimo

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    Read it again how he played one number or street in this case. Play the 3 the same way
     
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  13. Rheti

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    Nimo,

    for the sake of an exampe.

    you play 10 repeaters , winning 8 losiing 2

    stop at 35 means -70

    average spins used 22 gives 14 * 8 = 112

    a profit of 42 units..

    multiply by 3 ?

    I do;nt think it will appear always.

    just a thinking
     
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  14. Gigi666

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    I love how we have such diversity here, some people's brains are wired differently. I can hardly ever understand your examples or stats. Let's hope we achieve our goals anyway.
     

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    Could it really be that simple? Not even a need to play for long hours, going for 5x+? Not sure of course how you play and I wont press for that, but with that hint early live tests seem too good to be true
     
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    I figured it out a long time ago and emailed Turbo, we had a chat. I promised him I would never reveal it, but might give clues.
     
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    Turbo said :

    Will you be correct 80% of the time ? Yes.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hello Nimo! Thank you for helping with tips. It’s very valuable when someone who knows tells you where you can turn your attention when you can’t see. I wanted to quote this message yesterday, but it was too late, and today more has already been written. However, I wanted to say thank you for this quote because I always hold on to that first part. Because Denzi and Mako and someone else pointed at her. That year I saw that I was looking at it in the wrong way and I tested a lot of different ideas with that first part. Although I saw many things, I still could not apply them. But at the same time, I always try to have 1 part present in the tests. I'm grateful that you paid attention to this part, because even though I wrote about it, no one really paid attention to it. I hope now many will look at tests through the prism of part 1 too.
    I still don’t understand exactly what kind of hint this is, but the thoughts that come to mind tell me that I seemed to be testing something like that and didn’t I really finish it and quit at the wrong time. More precisely, perhaps I no longer had time, and then I had a long break from testing due to work. By the way, it was exactly a year ago at this time. Everything repeats itself...
     
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    Hello Gigi! I wanted to respond to your other messages using part 1, but I think it doesn’t matter anymore. So, how do you look at this tip about top 3 as 1? If possible of course.
     
  20. Gigi666

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    @Platton As mentioned I only did a quick live test and with a mild prog yesterday plus short test this morning, made 850 units with no weird drawdown though of course expecting this could drain more as always with any progression.
    I'm not even sure yet if this is the way to play, I just applied Nimo's hint and played like Turbo in the example (bar the prog), so playing 1x to 2x only and reset on a loss or a win. That's the baseline especially that I was on phone only so knew I could not track full race in my head.
    Will it work better to go further into higher "laps" if you lose at 2x, dont know yet, maybe. Looking at chart reposted above from Turbo example (those that tested this know well charting 20x won't look that good every time and you'll never sit through 200+ spins on live b&m wheel) if I applied adv repeaters 1 and Nimo's clue, I'd win 17 times out of 19 possible chances.
    Don't know @Nimo if that goes along your thread of thoughts and I'm on right path, but I'll definitely need to do proper testing around this (I'm ok with reset on any profit and not fixating on this must profit flat betting as Turbo always said prog is needed)

    Not sure this resonates with @Denzie style but glad to see the "like" from you and that you're still alive heh
     
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