1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Quos

    Quos Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2019
    Likes:
    29
    Location:
    Madrid
    Through the comment he makes to you. Because you talk to him about the top 3 of 3x and not top 3 of 1x. And he tells you that you play the 3 (i understan three numbers of 3x) as the top 1. Top 1 stop at first 4x.

    How did you interpretit it?
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
  2. Chrono

    Chrono Active Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2024
    Likes:
    27
    Location:
    Canada
    I checked the variance across a bunch of the different horseraces and it appeared that each level and space in the level was the same in terms of variance. There were some interesting parts where the variance decreased but that was moving towards the middle of the levels. It seemed strange. I posted it somewhere in my law of 3rd analysis thread I think towards the back.

    I never really found any consistency in who the leaders would be or when they would hit. There's always a leader or two, but it's always a reactive thing not proactive - you can only know for certain after the fact.
     
  3. Nimo

    Nimo Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Likes:
    140
    Location:
    Canada
    Also it's funny how @Nimo "play top3 like top1" hint gets so many different interpretations, how did you get to 3x to 4x from this @Quos I don't know




    This is why I posted that see someone trying to screw in a screw, so you want to help them, so you hand them a screwdriver and they end up using it as a hammer! Lol

    Too many inflict their own experience onto what is being said.
     
    Gigi666 likes this.
  4. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2020
    Likes:
    165
    Location:
    Europe
    That's why I always claimed that even if you or @Denzie or Turbo would post step by step how you play, most wouldn't be able to achieve same results as they'd venture outside of the rules based on their bias/experience that in this case is an enemy.

    Since you added that hint, I've gone through few variants already as it does leave quite a few options still.
    Initially I focused on playing first 3 numbers that show, instead of top1 that Turbo plays in his example, reset after any 2x hits. While that doesn't win flat, it produces a lot of wins, use of progression is required and that will and does cause a loss unless money mgm is applied, but I came to conclusion it's probably not what you meant.
     
  5. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2020
    Likes:
    165
    Location:
    Europe
    Then @Denzie bumps the "free spins" topic and tbh I'm not even sure you both align on how to best play what Turbo is preaching o_O

    Does that lean towards playing the streets that top3 numbers are in rather than singles? I guess no harm testing.
     
  6. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2020
    Likes:
    165
    Location:
    Europe
    You see my and likely other's issue here @Nimo, as you know the solution its easy in your mind, but as I see pieces of puzzle, the more there are the more possible options and then potentially not spending enough time on each if I dont see immediate results.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
  7. Nimo

    Nimo Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Likes:
    140
    Location:
    Canada
    I used to inflict my own bias too. Then I just stopped. Read everything carefully as if I never played in my life. It started making more sense that way.
     

  8. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2022
    Likes:
    30
    Location:
    greece
    Hi guys , i was thinking if we have that Avg on the first row should be on the right direction saying that when it is time to hit on the first column except our three horses , what is the % that it hit also another number that is waiting on the same line for that X? Screen Shot 09-10-2024 at 9.27 PM.png
     
  9. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2022
    Likes:
    30
    Location:
    greece
    Here is also some data for the delay... Screen Shot 09-10-2024 at 10.23 PM.png
     
  10. Yoigo

    Yoigo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2022
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    Spain
    Huge thanks, Nimo.
    Playing top 3 as top 1 does not fail, good progression and trigger.
     
  11. Quos

    Quos Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2019
    Likes:
    29
    Location:
    Madrid
    Hola Yoigo, ¿podrías explicar mas o menos como lo aplicas?.

    Gracias.
     
  12. Nimo

    Nimo Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Likes:
    140
    Location:
    Canada

    Don't do it Yoigo.
     
  13. Yoigo

    Yoigo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2022
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    Spain
    Tan solo diré lo que dejó dicho turbo. 2 pizcas de sal...
     
  14. Yoigo

    Yoigo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2022
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    Spain
    4 long years until today including a global pandemic thanks Nimo.
     

  15. Chrono

    Chrono Active Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2024
    Likes:
    27
    Location:
    Canada
    To me it seems like you would just play the numbers the way turbo said in part 1, but for top 3 numbers. Which seems similar to how Eugene described it as well earlier in this post. I haven't tested this.. just thinking out loud
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
  16. Quos

    Quos Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2019
    Likes:
    29
    Location:
    Madrid
    Hi Chrono, i have test it but don't work flat betting.
    Also i have test with top 3 3x but also work flat betting!. And also other variants with nimo hint.:rolleyes:
     
  17. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2020
    Likes:
    165
    Location:
    Europe
    I dont think any of this means to work flat betting
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
  18. Quos

    Quos Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2019
    Likes:
    29
    Location:
    Madrid
    First repeat occur about spin 8 (avg).
    When bet top3 1x and any number hit we loss 18 units (avg).
    When bet top3 1x and any number hit we win 18 units (avg).
    We need a hit rate above 50% to make a profit.

    Tomorrow I will continue doing more tests :)
     
  19. Chrono

    Chrono Active Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2024
    Likes:
    27
    Location:
    Canada
    To me, it would seem counter intuitive for it to work with a positive progression if it doesn't work flat.

    Positive progs will amplify the players edge, as negative progressions will amplify the house edge. The same principle applies when experiencing positive variance, thats when a positive prog will work best. A negative progression will also work best during positive variance but leave gains on the table.

    Therefore it must work flat betting in order to work with a positive progression.

    The only way a negative truly works is if we can reduce the dispersion or wins and loss streaks as twoup mentioned in his carsch progression post.
     
  20. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2020
    Likes:
    165
    Location:
    Europe
    It's straight forward if you go 1x to 2x and reset at either first win or a repeat that isnt your number, but that on its own isnt enough long term even with prog.
    So how do you go from there moving on to 2x and beyond if not in profit?
    Also you mentioned Eugene, his idea was to stop betting ie. 3x top3 as soon as 4th 3x shows.
    I guess this could be a stop trigger , but thats not within what Turbo shows in part1, so I think it's probably overcomplicating things and that probably distracts us from simpler play.
     

Share This Page