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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Rheti

    Rheti Active Member

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    Like Nimo said, quit for awhile.. I do

    Will continue collectiong data frpm Wiesbaden, doing the Top1 horse race, of course with Progressions, this is highly profitable.

    after 355 days and analyzing 1-2 till 5-6 repeaters, I ve got a weighted average of 3 candidates for a repeater... lol
     
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  2. KarlAtwo

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    I remember @TwoUp saying something that years ago. There was something he was using at the time that was showing a difference comparing to random.

    I tested his idea and it showed no difference but that was because I interpreted his idea wrong. I did a quick test with his idea applied correctly and indeed it showed a small difference. But it needed a progression. I was working only with flat bets at the time so i did not investigate further.

    I tried to look up his old posts but cant find it any more
     
  3. Quos

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    Hi, i have test the next variant:

    playing the first 3 numbers 1x until first 2x. flat bets. As each number appears, I bet on it.
    That is, I don't wait for the first 3 1x appear to start betting on them.


    100 games.

    overall balance: +60

    pdf attached.
     

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  4. HAL

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    Denzie and Naughty but nice like this.
  5. Yoigo

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    Turbo escribió una vez que había algo muy loco en su forma de tocar, pero no iba a entrar en detalles.
    recuerda....2 pizcas de sal
     
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  6. Naughty but nice

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    Yes 3000. 1000 D/D for 1000 profit.
    133 spins and have 9 numbers to choose from.
     
  7. Denzie

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    To HAL
    He's Dutch. Dutch people have the arrogant thing going on. And they're very direct which leads to more arrogance. Sometimes they don't realize this but it's frustrating for the normal people out there.

    Note: No No , not every Dutch but a lot of them.

    Cheers
     
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  8. KarlAtwo

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    Yep at least I admit it when wrong.

    And at least twoup was showing something that had merit.

    Turbo never did that. Everything he showed here was the same as random. Chrono and others are showing that as well.

    I always try to keep a small window open for the what if scenario...

    And yes I can be a real A hole sometimes...
     
  9. Platton

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    Yes, I, too, have been collecting a lot of information on the streets since then. We did test at the same time in that thread. And I certainly agree that indeed, even then Turbo wrote that the chance of repeating the first number in street is 24%. At the same time, talking about the advantage of the first number. But that’s what I thought, so if the first number has a 24% chance of repeating itself, then the remaining 2 numbers have a 76% chance, i.e. 38% each, and that's more than the 24% on the first number, lol. And I became interested, and I did a lot of tests, and collected a lot of information on this issue. And once again I agree with everything you said. After the first number appears on the street, the other two have a greater chance than the first. When the second number appears, the first two have a greater chance of getting a repeat than the 3rd number. Or rather, even the first number has a greater chance of being a repeat than the second number. By the way, this is the first part. which works anywhere in roulette, just like everything else.

    And yes, damn it, I thought someone would say that. That Turbo said not to bet on a number that didn’t appear. Bago also presented this to him in that thread back then, lol. But this is completely different. This is the same principle of this 3rd part, only for groups of numbers. And this is the most beautiful way that I know of to bet on sleeping numbers. But apparently you don’t understand this either. Okay, let's leave this topic, although it is interesting, but sometime later.
    If only that were the case. Although that may be true. I didn't exactly check it, so I discarded it, for reasons, one of which is that it's not that easy to keep track of, and requires pen and paper anyway, which could be a problem for me. And I also shared this as an example of the fact that top3 can be like top1, and it also has a very different way of thinking, which I also won’t write about for now, so as not to be distracted from this topic, what we are trying to find .

    Listen, I don’t know why you don’t understand, but I’m saying that maybe I don’t understand it that way, that I’m wrong. That's why we share our thoughts with each other.
    But good. Let's leave it at 9 numbers. Let's just do it on the 3rd. And you know, I was wondering, how then do the 3rd numbers relate to the first part??? And now I understand that you were trying to test there.
    Although it looked like you were testing like 4 years ago, I actually understood it. You just asked and are asking, I think, the same question - how 3 numbers relate to 1 part. That is, let’s say we choose 3 numbers and when one of them appears, the session ends? Or does the session end when any repeat appears, even if not from our numbers? Or the session ends when the first 3 repeaters appear.
    Those. I now understand and remember that when I tested a lot a year ago with this first part, I understood that I needed to test specifically on a group of numbers. And the same question arose. How to use a group of numbers in relation to the first part? Because the mathematics will already be different, unlike what Turbo described in part 1, if we take at least 2 numbers. We need to find out.
     
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  10. Gigi666

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    @Platton I agree all we can do is test, point I was making with all variants was getting others to also post their understanding to ultimately show that it's not easy to come to same conclusions even though on paper we've two simple rules to start with.

    Play top3 as top1 and apply adv part1.

    By the way, I tested your play with groups of 3 on each level both ways, playing last in group and playing the 2 that hit to come before the last. Both are profitable flat, but as you mentioned tracking is a bitch for this, so while not impossible it's quite time consuming even to test (it misses those leader runs if you play the last unhit in group, either way in few sessions tested it came out in profit every time)
     
  11. KarlAtwo

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    If top3 is played as top1 and applied to aor part1

    Then what is the definition of a hit? In my opinion that means all 3 should hit.

    But top3 as 1 only yields 12 "numbers"

    so there should be made 36 groups of 3numbers?
     
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  12. atrox23

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    if our target is a WIN why do we need so many spins. I was looking only to 2x how many hits we have from our previous 1x ! Screen Shot 09-12-2024 at 11.30 AM.png
     
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    Then if we go further out for each sett i was looking again previous based! Screen Shot 09-12-2024 at 12.00 PM.png
     
  14. atrox23

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    How is possible so you get that when there are only 37 (36) numbers, maybe 12x3 yes!
     
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  15. Rheti

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    the absolute minimum to reach 5-6 is 90 Spins / 18 each.. thisis the weighted average of 1 year analyzing.

    Turbo and CO can do it in 24*5 = 120 spins..
     
  16. HAL

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    You don’t know it therefore you can’t code it.
     
  17. Chrono

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    This is true, and also my main frustration. But no one is willing to talk about it so we are stuck in a loop of riddles and a carrot on a stick.

    I'm pretty sure I've tested it though, but of course I can never be certain as the goalposts are constantly being moved.
     
  18. HAL

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    Explain?
     
  19. SERGIO

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    Try to play when 2 of 2x come out to get a 3x, before the 3 of 2x comes out, then do the same for the rest of the following 3x, 4x, 5x... At some point you will win.
    Always play betting from the first, second and third, you remove it or start again when you get it right.
    If you manage the money well, you should win.
    You can also do it with 1 number, if the second comes out you discard it, if that number comes out you have won. Manage the money well, the fewer numbers to play, the more time it takes, the more numbers, the less time it takes, but the more money and the better way to manage it.
     
  20. Rheti

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