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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. HAL

    HAL Active Member

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    When schools out, ok cool. Later
     
  2. Rheti

    Rheti Active Member

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    1 year of testing the top Horse.. live spins from Wiesbaden

    Tested repeaters 1-2 till 5-6

    roughly 36,000 spins

    using average 36 units..

    min 10 euro - max 300 euro able

    most difficult part finding the right progression

    88 % Winning rate

    k-euro

    1 1,5 1,5
    2 5,7 4,3
    3 15,8 10,1
    4 17,2 1,4
    5 18,7 1,5
    6 20,8 2,1
    7 22,5 1,7
    8 23,1 0,6
    9 24,7 1,6
    10 33,5 8,8
    11 34,0 0,4
    12 35,8 1,9
    13 36,9 1,0
    14 35,8 -1,1
    15 36,9 1,1
    16 39,4 2,6
    17 38,8 -0,6
    18 39,5 0,7
    19 40,1 0,6
    20 40,7 0,6
    21 27,5 -13,2
    22 30,9 3,4
    23 32,0 1,0
    24 33,2 1,3
    25 33,6 0,4
    26 34,4 0,8
    27 28,8 -5,6
    28 30,0 1,3
    29 30,9 0,9
    30 31,7 0,8
    31 32,6 0,9
    32 33,1 0,5
    33 36,4 3,4
    34 36,1 -0,3
    35 37,1 0,9
    36 37,8 0,8
    37 44,5 6,7
    38 45,1 0,6
    39 53,6 8,5
    40 53,0 -0,5
    41 54,1 1,1
    42 55,0 0,9
    43 55,9 0,9
    44 57,0 1,0
    45 57,6 0,6
    46 57,8 0,2
    47 58,9 1,1
    48 59,8 0,8
    49 60,0 0,2
    50 61,9 1,9
    51 63,5 1,6
    52 64,1 0,6
    53 64,2 0,1
    54 65,4 1,3
    55 67,3 1,9
    56 68,6 1,3
    57 69,3 0,7
    58 69,7 0,4
    59 72,9 3,3
    60 77,0 4,1
    61 67,2 -9,8
    62 68,1 0,8
    63 70,4 2,3
    64 71,2 0,9
    65 72,9 1,6
    66 74,2 1,3
    67 76,4 2,3
    68 78,3 1,9
    69 80,6 2,4
    70 80,7 0,1
    71 82,5 1,8
    72 83,5 1,1
    73 84,0 0,5
    74 84,7 0,7
    75 86,3 1,6
    76 87,7 1,5
    77 88,4 0,6
    78 90,3 1,9
    79 91,2 0,9
    80 91,5 0,3
    81 90,4 -1,1
    82 90,8 0,4
    83 91,1 0,3
    84 91,7 0,6
    85 93,3 1,7
    86 92,9 -0,5
    87 94,3 1,5
    88 100,4 6,1
    89 93,0 -7,4
    90 91,2 -1,7
    91 92,4 1,1
    92 91,8 -0,6
    93 92,6 0,7
    94 94,6 2,0
    95 95,3 0,7
    96 96,0 0,8
    97 98,6 2,5
    98 99,3 0,8
    99 99,9 0,5
    100 100,9 1,0
    101 101,2 0,3
    102 100,0 -1,2
    103 102,3 2,3
    104 94,9 -7,4
    105 97,3 2,4
    106 98,5 1,2
    107 99,0 0,6
    108 99,7 0,7
    109 101,5 1,8
    110 102,4 0,9
    111 104,9 2,5
    112 105,5 0,6
    113 93,2 -12,2
    114 81,6 -11,6
    115 82,6 1,0
    116 80,3 -2,3
    117 81,5 1,3
    118 86,6 5,0
    119 87,6 1,1
    120 88,4 0,8
    121 89,5 1,1
    122 90,2 0,6
    123 91,0 0,8
    124 91,6 0,6
    125 92,1 0,5
    126 92,9 0,8
    127 93,1 0,3
    128 92,5 -0,6
    129 98,1 5,6
    130 100,2 2,1
    131 101,4 1,2
    132 102,8 1,4
    133 103,4 0,7
    134 104,0 0,6
    135 106,5 2,5
    136 107,0 0,5
    137 108,5 1,4
    138 108,9 0,5
    139 110,4 1,4
    140 114,8 4,4
    141 115,7 0,9
    142 116,0 0,3
    143 117,0 1,0
    144 114,6 -2,4
    145 118,1 3,5
    146 119,0 0,8
    147 121,4 2,4
    148 109,7 -11,6
    149 110,3 0,5
    150 111,5 1,2
    151 112,8 1,3
    152 113,8 1,0
    153 117,0 3,2
    154 119,0 2,0
    155 119,4 0,4
    156 119,0 -0,4
    157 118,7 -0,3
    158 119,0 0,3
    159 110,7 -8,3
    160 116,9 6,2
    161 117,4 0,5
    162 118,1 0,7
    163 119,0 0,9
    164 119,9 0,9
    165 120,6 0,7
    166 121,0 0,4
    167 121,9 1,0
    168 131,5 9,6
    169 132,2 0,7
    170 133,7 1,5
    171 134,8 1,1
    172 135,9 1,1
    173 136,7 0,8
    174 139,0 2,3
    175 140,0 1,0
    176 143,1 3,1
    177 142,7 -0,4
    178 144,4 1,7
    179 145,0 0,6
    180 145,4 0,4
    181 145,8 0,4
    182 140,9 -4,9
    183 144,7 3,8
    184 145,1 0,3
    185 146,0 0,9
    186 146,9 0,9
    187 147,4 0,5
    188 148,0 0,6
    189 149,5 1,5
    190 149,6 0,1
    191 149,7 0,2
    192 151,6 1,8
    193 152,3 0,7
    194 153,5 1,1
    195 154,3 0,9
    196 157,4 3,0
    197 158,3 0,9
    198 160,9 2,6
    199 161,8 0,9
    200 162,9 1,1
    201 163,7 0,8
    202 164,7 1,0
    203 164,7 0,0
    204 164,8 0,1
    205 164,8 0,1
    206 161,9 -2,9
    207 163,1 1,2
    208 164,1 1,1
    209 165,1 0,9
    210 166,4 1,3
    211 166,7 0,3
    212 167,6 0,9
    213 168,5 0,9
    214 169,6 1,1
    215 170,9 1,3
    216 170,2 -0,7
    217 170,8 0,7
    218 166,7 -4,1
    219 164,5 -2,2
    220 165,6 1,1
    221 166,6 1,1
    222 170,1 3,4
    223 171,8 1,8
    224 172,2 0,4
    225 173,5 1,3
    226 174,1 0,6
    227 175,8 1,7
    228 176,7 0,9
    229 178,3 1,6
    230 178,4 0,1
    231 179,9 1,5
    232 182,6 2,7
    233 183,1 0,5
    234 185,4 2,3
    235 185,9 0,4
    236 186,7 0,8
    237 188,2 1,5
    238 190,1 1,9
    239 191,4 1,2
    240 192,7 1,4
    241 193,7 1,0
    242 188,4 -5,3
    243 185,5 -2,9
    244 186,0 0,5
    245 186,7 0,7
    246 187,3 0,7
    247 188,8 1,5
    248 190,0 1,2
    249 189,1 -0,9
    250 192,2 3,2
    251 192,5 0,3
    252 192,1 -0,4
    253 194,0 1,8
    254 195,5 1,5
    255 196,4 1,0
    256 197,8 1,3
    257 204,7 6,9
    258 205,3 0,7
    259 207,6 2,2
    260 209,8 2,3
    261 210,9 1,0
    262 211,6 0,8
    263 213,1 1,5
    264 213,6 0,5
    265 215,7 2,1
    266 214,4 -1,4
    267 215,2 0,8
    268 219,6 4,4
    269 220,7 1,1
    270 221,6 0,9
    271 227,8 6,2
    272 228,1 0,3
    273 227,1 -1,0
    274 227,1 0,1
    275 227,7 0,5
    276 228,5 0,9
    277 231,4 2,9
    278 231,5 0,1
    279 232,0 0,5
    280 232,4 0,4
    281 231,6 -0,8
    282 232,0 0,4
    283 227,3 -4,6
    284 230,9 3,5
    285 231,7 0,8
    286 233,5 1,8
    287 234,6 1,1
    288 236,9 2,3
    289 240,5 3,5
    290 240,3 -0,1
    291 241,0 0,7
    292 242,9 1,9
    293 243,5 0,6
    294 244,4 0,9
    295 245,3 1,0
    296 245,6 0,2
    297 247,1 1,5
    298 249,1 2,1
    299 250,3 1,2
    300 250,6 0,3
    301 251,5 0,9
    302 251,9 0,4
    303 253,8 1,8
    304 244,8 -9,0
    305 246,5 1,8
    306 247,0 0,5
    307 248,0 1,0
    308 250,9 2,9
    309 251,9 1,0
    310 252,6 0,7
    311 253,2 0,5
    312 253,2 0,0
    313 254,0 0,8
    314 253,3 -0,6
    315 256,1 2,8
    316 259,8 3,7
    317 260,6 0,8
    318 262,2 1,6
    319 264,5 2,3
    320 267,5 3,0
    321 247,4 -20,1
    322 248,5 1,1
    323 246,0 -2,5
    324 248,0 1,9
    325 249,4 1,4
    326 251,1 1,6
    327 251,0 -0,1
    328 253,1 2,1
    329 255,7 2,6
    330 255,6 0,0
    331 258,7 3,1
    332 259,4 0,6
    333 262,3 2,9
    334 262,6 0,4
    335 263,4 0,8
    336 267,8 4,4
    337 269,0 1,2
    338 270,7 1,7
    339 272,1 1,4
    340 271,6 -0,5
    341 275,7 4,0
    342 277,4 1,7
    343 277,3 -0,1
    344 278,4 1,1
    345 280,9 2,6
    346 281,6 0,7
    347 282,6 0,9
    348 283,9 1,4
    349 285,3 1,4
    350 287,7 2,4
    351 288,2 0,5
    352 288,5 0,3
    353 289,3 0,8
    354 291,9 2,6
    355 292,5 0,6
    356 295,0 2,4
    357 294,9 0,0
    358 287,0 -7,9
    359 287,6 0,6
    360 288,4 0,8
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2024
  3. Chrono

    Chrono Active Member

    Joined:
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    Location:
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    I think some of you guys need to go back to school.

    It took me longer to save the images than it did to code this. But damn the graphs actually look really good!!!! Wow @TheHolyGrail.

    3 million spins.

    joecroupiersstrat.png joecroupiersstrat2.png joecroupiersstrat3.png

    The stats from more than these 3 images:

    Final Bankroll 648871.0
    Mean Bet size 22.698396
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 51552, 3: 33803, 4: 21821, 5: 14295, 6: 9202, 7: 5899, 8: 3894, 9: 2599, 10: 1611, 11: 1038, 12: 675, 13: 442, 14: 320, 15: 189, 16: 115, 17: 76, 18: 39, 19: 29, 20: 25, 21: 11, 23: 6, 22: 6, 25: 4, 27: 3, 24: 3, 29: 2, 33: 1, 26: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 33
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 51874, 3: 18221, 4: 6479, 5: 2276, 6: 774, 7: 255, 8: 84, 9: 46, 11: 8, 10: 6, 12: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12

    Final Bankroll 648794.0
    Mean Bet size 20.512792
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 52298, 3: 33794, 4: 21728, 5: 14131, 6: 9308, 7: 5963, 8: 3845, 9: 2488, 10: 1631, 11: 1025, 12: 644, 13: 422, 14: 312, 15: 209, 16: 115, 17: 80, 18: 56, 19: 39, 20: 14, 21: 10, 23: 9, 24: 5, 27: 4, 22: 4, 26: 2, 25: 2, 30: 1, 28: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 30
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 51450, 3: 18404, 4: 6339, 5: 2276, 6: 782, 7: 277, 8: 83, 9: 40, 10: 10, 11: 3, 12: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12

    Final Bankroll 324515.0
    Mean Bet size 20.962408
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 25815, 3: 16781, 4: 10908, 5: 7030, 6: 4672, 7: 2963, 8: 1957, 9: 1330, 10: 799, 11: 532, 12: 335, 13: 241, 14: 155, 15: 79, 16: 46, 17: 37, 18: 26, 21: 13, 19: 13, 20: 8, 22: 6, 23: 5, 24: 2, 25: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 25
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 26034, 3: 9145, 4: 3185, 5: 1125, 6: 379, 7: 128, 8: 43, 9: 16, 10: 5, 12: 1, 11: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12

    Final Bankroll 324361.0
    Mean Bet size 18.932008
    Max Bet size 354294
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 25837, 3: 16915, 4: 10886, 5: 6948, 6: 4608, 7: 2998, 8: 1960, 9: 1248, 10: 820, 11: 510, 12: 324, 13: 239, 14: 155, 15: 103, 16: 65, 17: 45, 18: 27, 19: 21, 20: 10, 22: 7, 21: 6, 24: 3, 29: 1, 28: 1, 27: 1, 25: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 29
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 26010, 3: 9037, 4: 3236, 5: 1150, 6: 406, 7: 117, 8: 48, 9: 18, 10: 4, 11: 2})
    Longest losing streak: 11

    Final Bankroll 161936.0
    Mean Bet size 205.838624
    Max Bet size 28697814
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 13179, 3: 8458, 4: 5525, 5: 3531, 6: 2293, 7: 1474, 8: 946, 9: 609, 10: 377, 11: 240, 12: 180, 13: 120, 14: 75, 15: 49, 16: 25, 17: 17, 18: 9, 19: 7, 23: 4, 24: 3, 21: 3, 25: 2, 22: 2, 20: 2})
    Longest winning streak: 25
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 12985, 3: 4457, 4: 1704, 5: 550, 6: 190, 7: 66, 8: 24, 10: 6, 9: 5, 12: 2, 15: 1, 11: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 15

    Final Bankroll 162506.0
    Mean Bet size 533.752336
    Max Bet size 86093442
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 13221, 3: 8414, 4: 5410, 5: 3449, 6: 2353, 7: 1534, 8: 945, 9: 630, 10: 433, 11: 260, 12: 172, 13: 104, 14: 70, 15: 51, 16: 25, 17: 23, 18: 14, 19: 8, 20: 7, 23: 4, 21: 4, 26: 1, 25: 1, 24: 1, 22: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 26
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 13042, 3: 4464, 4: 1603, 5: 530, 6: 170, 7: 72, 8: 27, 9: 7, 10: 3, 16: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 16

    Final Bankroll 648710.0
    Mean Bet size 18.130208
    Max Bet size 354294
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 51702, 3: 33953, 4: 21889, 5: 14179, 6: 9128, 7: 5861, 8: 3783, 9: 2539, 10: 1635, 11: 1011, 12: 734, 13: 472, 14: 301, 15: 200, 16: 126, 17: 67, 18: 43, 19: 36, 20: 23, 21: 15, 22: 9, 23: 5, 32: 3, 25: 2, 24: 2, 29: 1, 28: 1, 27: 1, 26: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 32
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 52097, 3: 18327, 4: 6399, 5: 2120, 6: 803, 7: 269, 8: 102, 9: 31, 10: 7, 11: 3})
    Longest losing streak: 11

    Final Bankroll 648262.0
    Mean Bet size 20.904588
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 51855, 3: 33906, 4: 21871, 5: 14082, 6: 9127, 7: 5915, 8: 3992, 9: 2463, 10: 1609, 11: 1099, 12: 643, 13: 453, 14: 300, 15: 178, 16: 105, 17: 71, 18: 44, 19: 30, 20: 24, 21: 15, 22: 10, 23: 9, 24: 3, 25: 2, 34: 1, 29: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 34
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 52039, 3: 18341, 4: 6355, 5: 2253, 6: 812, 7: 283, 8: 83, 9: 36, 10: 10, 11: 4, 12: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12

    Final Bankroll 648287.0
    Mean Bet size 42.098044
    Max Bet size 9565938
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 52043, 3: 33607, 4: 21899, 5: 14187, 6: 9280, 7: 5896, 8: 3877, 9: 2444, 10: 1602, 11: 1041, 12: 687, 13: 457, 14: 290, 15: 196, 16: 118, 17: 63, 18: 43, 19: 34, 20: 23, 21: 16, 22: 8, 23: 6, 26: 4, 28: 2, 24: 2, 32: 1, 29: 1, 27: 1, 25: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 32
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 52097, 3: 18241, 4: 6339, 5: 2277, 6: 791, 7: 273, 8: 97, 9: 38, 10: 11, 11: 4, 12: 2, 14: 1, 13: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 14


    Wait I guess they don't look so good.

    Here's the code:

    Damn but what if we don't change the dozen???
    joecroupiersstrat4.png joecroupiersstrat5.png joecroupiersstrat6.png

    Final Bankroll 648646.0
    Mean Bet size 20.69526
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 52076, 3: 33920, 4: 21836, 5: 14242, 6: 9140, 7: 5973, 8: 3840, 9: 2474, 10: 1661, 11: 1043, 12: 696, 13: 428, 14: 276, 15: 182, 16: 111, 17: 79, 18: 55, 19: 30, 20: 20, 21: 15, 22: 13, 23: 3, 27: 2, 26: 2, 25: 2, 24: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 27
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 51968, 3: 18340, 4: 6328, 5: 2239, 6: 778, 7: 280, 8: 99, 9: 26, 10: 11, 11: 4, 12: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12

    Final Bankroll 648597.0
    Mean Bet size 35.483952
    Max Bet size 9565938
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 52004, 3: 33915, 4: 22007, 5: 14146, 6: 9077, 7: 5901, 8: 3788, 9: 2424, 10: 1579, 11: 1031, 12: 724, 13: 468, 14: 288, 15: 186, 16: 133, 17: 100, 18: 51, 19: 36, 20: 29, 21: 18, 22: 9, 23: 7, 25: 6, 24: 3, 26: 2, 30: 1, 27: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 30
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 51707, 3: 18129, 4: 6357, 5: 2260, 6: 849, 7: 269, 8: 102, 9: 34, 10: 10, 11: 4, 14: 1, 12: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 14

    Final Bankroll 648496.0
    Mean Bet size 19.61288
    Max Bet size 1062882
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 51978, 3: 33826, 4: 21811, 5: 14392, 6: 9054, 7: 5920, 8: 3886, 9: 2466, 10: 1650, 11: 1059, 12: 680, 13: 387, 14: 292, 15: 195, 16: 124, 17: 81, 18: 54, 19: 25, 20: 20, 21: 17, 23: 13, 22: 9, 24: 4, 26: 3, 25: 3, 28: 1, 27: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 28
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 52188, 3: 18117, 4: 6460, 5: 2287, 6: 739, 7: 288, 8: 106, 9: 26, 10: 13, 12: 1, 11: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 12



    Ok now what if we just pick 24 random numbers each round????

    joecroupiersstrat7.png joecroupiersstrat8.png joecroupiersstrat9.png

    Final Bankroll 482173.0
    Mean Bet size 9907.227404
    Max Bet size 2324522934
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 62293, 3: 30254, 4: 14487, 5: 6920, 6: 3415, 7: 1564, 8: 791, 9: 342, 10: 191, 11: 97, 12: 42, 13: 21, 14: 11, 15: 7, 19: 1, 17: 1, 16: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 19
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 62426, 3: 32440, 4: 16901, 5: 8554, 6: 4450, 7: 2320, 8: 1164, 9: 604, 10: 318, 11: 172, 12: 71, 13: 46, 14: 23, 15: 14, 16: 8, 17: 4, 18: 2, 19: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 19

    Final Bankroll 482162.0
    Mean Bet size 122329.495232
    Max Bet size 62762119218
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 62089, 3: 30257, 4: 14428, 5: 6881, 6: 3434, 7: 1649, 8: 765, 9: 380, 10: 201, 11: 89, 12: 37, 13: 27, 15: 8, 14: 6, 17: 3, 16: 3, 18: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 18
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 62160, 3: 32052, 4: 16919, 5: 8611, 6: 4547, 7: 2349, 8: 1218, 9: 642, 10: 328, 11: 132, 12: 86, 13: 35, 14: 19, 15: 12, 16: 7, 20: 2, 22: 1, 19: 1, 18: 1, 17: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 22

    Final Bankroll 482320.0
    Mean Bet size 11483.899884
    Max Bet size 2324522934
    Winning streaks (True): Counter({2: 62433, 3: 30168, 4: 14439, 5: 7086, 6: 3265, 7: 1676, 8: 756, 9: 333, 10: 179, 11: 103, 12: 50, 13: 14, 14: 8, 15: 6, 17: 2, 18: 1, 16: 1})
    Longest winning streak: 18
    Losing streaks (False): Counter({2: 62598, 3: 32315, 4: 16706, 5: 8613, 6: 4429, 7: 2284, 8: 1239, 9: 576, 10: 347, 11: 157, 12: 72, 13: 40, 14: 30, 15: 13, 16: 8, 17: 5, 18: 3, 19: 1})
    Longest losing streak: 19



    I would draw your attention to the mean bet sizes, the longest losing streaks, and the max bet sizes. Our longest losing streak from these tests is 22. That's tripling each time and going back to base on a win.

    You can NOT win MORE than you LOSE doing this kind of stuff.

    Where's your graphs @TheHolyGrail ? Put your money where your mouth is. Unless you already lost it.

    I provide evidence and facts, these people do not. Until they pony up some hard evidence I don't see why anyone would continue with their silly games and goose chases. To all those still looking for 'the answer'. These guys don't have it because they are afraid of being exposed. They may have luck, and have won some money - maybe.

    But they aren't talking about ther super secret method because they can't quantify it. Its all talk. They enjoy perpetuating this mysticism and tea leaves reading. There's no reason to not share it (besides making a promise to Turbo which is respectable) because this game is a sure thing for the casino, and they can't change the game without ruining their money maker.

    So if anyone has an actual idea, method or mechanism I will test it and provide indepth data, results and hard facts. If all there is talk of how your brain cant comprehend these ideas, or just keep reading, or cryptic statistics with zero meaning or context, or blah blah. Get real. Stop wasting time with people. Remember - these are gamblers we're talking about here.

    And as a bonus here's some reversion to the mean data:
    newplot (6).png

    Hit rates and their cumulative over time hit rate - reversion to the mean. Try to figure out how to make money with that one.
     
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  4. Chrono

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    And notice how when I provide data - the exact same data as @HAL for instance - I don't block anything out.

    Watch out for the red flags, people. All he blocked were the gaps until that number hit - why? No answer to that when asked. More mysticism.

    Always be on the lookout for dunning-krueger effect at work.

    Occams razor, the simplest answer is usually the best answer.

    Anyway - I've made my point.
     
  5. Naughty but nice

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    Nice chrono. But why are you doing your head in; like Karl.
    Turbo don't play 500 spins.
    Take a look.
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    And this page 1 he ain't even playing TOP3
     
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    Why you come on here and demand that members hand over all of their knowledge for you to analyze and test the shit out of it. And when nobody complies you act like a spoiled child. “You have to give it to me because I see no reason why not yep yep yep, yep yep yep”
    So you educated yourself in computer science and data analysis, good for you buddy.
    Education is something you can acquire, intelligence not. I don’t say you’re stupid, but mocking members who are not willing to answering certain questions is just silly.
    C858AE14-A706-40F1-849B-2CE585DE9B01.jpeg
     
  7. Chrono

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    No, it's that you guys keep touting this mysticism and that only certain people will understand it and if you just "keep at it" you'll get it. It's super condescending and unhelpful. People are working on this for years, probably in vain and you all are just egging them on. It's anti social honestly.

    Mr holygrail going around saying crazy strategies and that roulette is easy, while promoting his youtube channel and charging money for roulette tools.

    Nah I'm just calling it how it is. You guys are just dicking people around. Don't tell me, you have nothing to hold over me. Tell Gigi or Gary who've been at it for years.

    At least I'm offering a collaboration and contribution. You guys just offer nothing but condescension.
     

  8. KarlAtwo

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    @Chrono

    I applaud you! Trust me these guys haven't got a clue what they are doing.

    Yes they believe they figured it out, until somewhere along the line cracks start to emerge. Then they slowly start to disappear from the forums as well, fewer and fewer post and than poof nothing any more. It can drive man mad in the end. The chances are high this happened to turbo in the end as well and took his own live.

    If you search for these members and start to look at their latest posts here, you will see that in the end there is bitterness and ridicule. They even start to post silly pictures.

    This trend is already happening with hal, yes ofcourse he will say otherwise. But we will know better.

    Chrono I like your fortitude and how you have approached things. I did the same and sometimes still do... But at sometime something should have showed up by now. And it didn't unfortunately.

    But hey at least we gave it a shot!
     
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    Mr holy grail hahaha

    like u know me


    Jog on son, you sound like a moron sorry to say :(
     
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    @Chrono I'll take you up on your offer, probably will save me pain, see picture. First of all robust testing and potential take profit/loss fine tuning.

    @Denzie or @Nimo if you truly want to help pls do.
     

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    Don’t trust these guys (Chrono, KarlAtwo) Gigi, they could easily fool you. They can test your ideas, if it’s any good they can tell you otherwise.
     
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    To keep you busy over the weekend.
    https://www.americanscientist.org/article/knowing-when-to-stop
     
  13. Chrono

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    I just wanted there to be a record of their hypocrisy here for any future people. @TheHolyGrail never did post that chart did he?

    I have no interest in stealing anything. And I was actually hoping for public discussion, rather than private.

    Anyways, my points really been made now and whoever is going to listen will listen.
     
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    HAL i have read this and indeed very interesting , a small help what will you add as a threshold for lines as the paper sais or is there a catch?
    Thank you.
     

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    Confused ?

    I get it, you're rubbish at roulette and lost so much money it's turned you against it and everyone successful at it .. like me.

    :( my heart pours out to you my little friend :(


    Ok just for you because you seem sad I'll make you happy today, i'll play all day with the same strategy and post the results here, then i'll do it again the day after and post the results, then again the day after and forever.


    My username not just a gimmick bro, I've been doing this for 30 years now lol
     
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    Could you define threshold and context, I have mine and you have yours. I don’t want to be misunderstood.
     
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    There may be lack of understanding as english is not my best sorry, that is why i ask!
    When the paper discusses optimal stopping, it usually refers to deciding the best time to stop based on observed data? I understood that is needed for a line ,when the conditions (such as frequency of occurrences) suggest it is optimal to make a bet based on the observed data!
    Or is like we observe first and apply OS?
    Thank you again
     
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    Thanks @HAL. I love these, @TwoUp used to provide similar techniques on occasion. My education background isn't math, but sometimes I think self teaching is the best way to grasp the concept.
     
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    Definitely, especially when we live in a world where most people are to smart in the big head to be educated.

    I have a saying in life:
    "If you was the only person left on earth then who would you learn from"

    rings true
     
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    "But in theoretical probability, computers often do not significantly aid the discovery process." -See link provided above
     

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