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Gracias por compartir los datos. Hay mucho misterio en este hilo. Entiendo que hay muchos buitres dando vueltas pero debería haber uno privado (quizá lo haya y no lo sé) donde los que puedan demostrar que realmente se han esforzado puedan compartirlo. Lo siento, cosas de viejos (66) y en esto desde 2004.
Algo más, prestar atención a 4X a 5X y 5X a 6X (no es mío).
Ricardo

 

Thank you for that , it is the same as to all forums they are afraid for casinos to close XD!

 

Winning can be achieved as I mentioned a few days ago, playing from 2x taking the first and second number and discarding the third number to repeat the same process from 3x, 4x, etc. But it requires time and making an aggressive progression as Turbo mentions, it is also possible to do 1 and the second go to 3x and so on, slower, but less risk and more benefits.
But I have been observing something, I think I have done it in the past, but with some comments from denzie and some others, who talk about removing numbers and such, I think there is something that could possibly win flat or only require a small progression by cycles 1-5-25 would be enough.
We wait until the first or second 3x, and we take all the twos and when they come out we discard, until we have 1-2 of 4x again and we will change to taking all the 3x and as they come out they are removed and so on until we win. If we don't win in the 2x to 3x cycle, when the 1-2 of 4x come out we start with higher chips in the 3x and so on.
I think the horse race approach is not focused on who crosses the finish line, but rather many of them have to cross the finish line in some sort of order every X balls and at any time there will be a concentration of hits.
Try it and comment.

 

Nothing, forget the last message I posted, the only thing that still works is to take the first one 2x until the second one comes out 2x and stop and do the same on all levels or take the first and second one and on the third number stop and do the same on the rest of the levels.

 

Since we are being honest a little, what has worked for me is to follow the first 3 from the 3X level, looking for the first one that crosses to 4X within the balls indicated by the average and depending on how the repetitions come, stop 35 chips losses or progress.
If there is a stop, next entry +1

 

Now this is a very good comment!!!! (38 people...remember? )

When you start playing with your selection you need to observe what's happening. Fast hits ? Average hits ? Or slow hits ?

Adjust your betting towards that. The hits will come . They always do. And when they do you just catch those profits.

Use a positive progression. I'll give an example of one( better than the always mentioned +1/-1) ... +1u on the winning number in your selection. And martingale the whole selection after x spins . What about x spins ? Well that depends on the session outcome . Don't keep a winning number for to long because they might take a long break. Profit a few times and drop it.

A session should be done under 3 cycles. But mostly 2 is enough. So knowing that...we build the proper progression around it.

Damn, that's enough info isn't it ?
Good weekend

 

So at least this clarifies a bit your positive prog, increase stake not just after win but when selection (so could be 2-3 numbers) is under the "expected" hit rate, ie. you're at spin 37 and no 4x hit yet OR if playing 3 numbers and no hit after 12 spins (like a street) OR lets say leader is in your selection and we know these early on hit avg every 16 spins (later increasing towards 24) you'd increase stake on the whole selection (so for those that don't understand a group of numbers not just for example the leader).

 

Thanks Denzie, very good point of view. It is incredible how a few words open the minds of those of us who are stuck at a certain point.
A few months ago I sent you an email, did you see it?
Ricardo

 

My variation on the combination of the method presented by Denzie and 'free spins' by Turbo. For 700 spins only one number is played (often changed naturally) + some side bets. The progression is +1 if the cycle is lost, reset to the base rate of 1u at each ATH. Even though it is only 700 spins (and I had systems that survived 20k, and then...meh) it looks better than I expected. There is potential in it that is worth working on. I wonder how to minimize these few drawdowns visible on the graph a little. In the next test, I will maybe add a second number - only top 1 and top 2, as Serhio wrote, but on the principle of a micro horse race - a short cycle. Will see if it decreases or increases the drawdowns.
Cheers guys.

 

Hi MatwieJ , thanks for the input . I was doing the same thing , there was a hard race again but that last hit from 21 was ok ! I was giving a windows of 35 spins then drop that until hit again or the next first and continue !

 

Good luck, mate. My way is more of an 'advantage of repeaters part1' style, similar to what Denzie showed but without adding any new numbers or leaving old ones. So a cycle lasts approx. 9 spins, win or lose, switch a number, or win-> over and start again.

 

Quick update: I went over 1k spins - still looking good but needs more exploration. Chart below.
Doesn't work on 2 numbers, way too big of drawdowns, and almost impossible recovery.

 

Could you give an example with some spins as i am having different results even with one number!!

 

Sure.
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
4 - play 4 with neighbors (1u bet size)
10
11
12
13
12 - switch to 12 (and neighbors) from 4 (2u bet size)
21
22
23
24
25
12 - win, reset to 1u, and start again



So the idea is to either catch a 3x in a rather short distance or profit from neighboring side bets, similar to what Turbo has shown in 'free spins' topic. Or both if you encounter a nice cycle.

 

Appreciate that , are your neighboring based on table (3-4-5), wheel (19-4-21)or from the running cycle on your example as it is 1,2,3 will be same as table ( 3-4-5)?

 

Same as in Turbo's topic.
In my example, I didn't bother too much and went in order but it doesn't matter - treat numbers as if they are random and mixed. See 'neighboring' below.

 

I really don't know if you are doing what you shared here but i can't have those graphs that you are showing, there a huge drop down on every attempt !!

 

It is exactly what I was doing. So there can be either:
- my English - it's my third language maybe, so there are some limitations
- R-Sim spun rather favorable numbers for almost 1.5k which is likely since this morning I repeated it for about 300 spins and the beginning was beautiful, followed by a HUGE drawdown (-3000u) which took over 150 spins to recover. Images below.
Again, I'm not saying it's a winning approach. It's just an interesting idea to investigate further in a search for fewer (and smaller) drawdowns. I'm trying to reduce Denzie and Turbo methods to lesser numbers. But maybe it's not the way.

 

Forgot about the graph. This one doesn't look so good.

 

This one looks like the one I got after 500 spins, this is for testing as there will be resets but on the other hand what is the point when numbers will move All from 1x for example to 2x that 2x will be reacting as the previous 1x and so on. . Doing as Denzie said around 30 to 60 , for 30 is 3x if the run is going normal to medium so we have to include other runner's also and not only the ones we are seeing and 60 5x .