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Baccarat What non-mathematical tools & strategies do you use?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Zhang Wei, Sep 27, 2024.

  1. Zhang Wei

    Zhang Wei Active Member

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    I'll start by sharing 1 strategy of mine.
    Maximize privacy.
    That means playing on weekdays office hours and avoid weeknights, weekends & public holidays.
    That also means playing on tables with higher minimum bets.
    Cash out with less than $10,000 so they don't check your ID and do other extra background checks.

    What non-mathematical stuff do you use or do to boost your chances of winning? Anything goes, even voodoo.
     
  2. Mars

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    I know players that come in off hours deliberately, but annoying Fers are seconds away anytime.
     
  3. CT70

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    That’s excellent advice!
     
  4. Mars

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    Next to other certain hospitality venues (and you should be able to figure out what those are) the tables are the ultimate bro hangout for forum club posters and reduhdoors and every stupid bro under the Sun.

    In the most recent sessions the following has occurred which are extremely negative (keeping this super vague because the dumb as rocks forum club posters and reduhdoors nd every stupid bro under the Sun are prolly all over these types of boards):
    - Players getting exited over comments towards staff or game play (Happens all the time).
    - Players arguing with each other over a range of issues from minor to big (Happens all the time).
    - Players crying like a baby, driving the cards like a wuss, and going nuclear over a loss/ losses (Happens often enough).
    - Railbirds and players not in a hand knowing everything about the outcome (Happens often enough).
    - Panhandlers that somehow are viewed to be a top asset by the house like they are 007 (Nonstop).

    One should arrive at the point as quickly as possible to understand that some surprising twist of this and more will occur every session. The advantage of flattening out size to almost full flat is that you are selling time and selling variance as much as possible so when all of this occurs it should have less an impact.


    I still like playing at the busiest tables unless this drama...
     
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  5. Zhang Wei

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    Ok mars. You flat bet. Got it.

    What's your reasoning for wanting to play at the busiest tables?
     
  6. Mars

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    - Most favorable tables are often, but not always busy.
    - Lower risk, buying time to deal with annoying things vs high risk where it is easier for crazy things to contribute to ruin. I think most baccarat players play way too aggressive.
    - I want to play more stable. Currently my top progressions aren't flat.
     
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  7. Mars

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    To clarify, a SKILLED baccarat player should be looking to play as much as possible like a job as mentioned under 'To be a professional Baccarat gambler.' so the more effective the way is under all conditions and the more balanced then the crazy things will set back less. Imagine someone placing a critical super sized bet, and then one of the things above occurs like an argument. Arguments are almost 100% 3 side guaranteed bad luck for that hand up next. If you are flat then a 9 or 8 in the face is not good, but in line with carry on mindset.
     

  8. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    There are NO mathematical tools & strategies other than ones that you don't understand…yet. In my book I quoted this advice:

    The Reader may here observe the Force of Numbers, which can be successfully applied, even to those things which one would imagine are subject to no Rules. There are very few things which we know, which are not capable of being reduced to a Mathematical Reasoning; and when they cannot it's a sign our knowledge of them is very small and confused; and when a Mathematical Reasoning can be had it's as great a folly to make use of any other, as to grope for a thing in the dark when you have a Candle standing by you. ~ John Arbuthnot, Of the Laws of Chance (1692)

    I also wrote this about this in my book. It's little bit harsh, but it's still true.

    I will say now, what I said to her then, to make sure there is no mistake (I’ll leave out the scowl and eye twitching). "Two plus two equals four. It equaled four yesterday, it equals four today and blissfully, it will still equal four tomorrow. In this topsy-turvey universe we live in there are not many things you can count on but thankfully, math is one of them. And what's even better, it's the same for all of us. If I add two plus two correctly I will get the same answer that you would or Nakamura Nisotsu, nine thousand miles away in Japan, or even dolphins at Sea World, which have been shown to be able to do math. Yes, that’s right, you don’t even need to be human for this to work (which should come as a great relief to any attorneys in the audience). ~Frank Kneeland 2008
     
  9. Zhang Wei

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    Okay mars interesting.

    Sorry frank. But can you STFU? You are not giving any answer I want to the thread question.
     
  10. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    What? I don't understand your reply?

    "You are not giving any answer I want to the thread question." It might be a language problem.

    I had a stroke...so sorry if the problem is mine...
     
  11. Mars

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    Contrary to what most cats do, you should constantly be evaluating where you play and determine where you get the best fields. Some housese have more tables. Some houses have better comp offers or other things. Some places are more strict or less strict. This is not only numbers or math. While I watch some fellow netizens internationally that have access to so many tables in one online account lol. MURICA!
     
  12. Frank Kneeland

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    I had friend/player that gave me his stats and equations on how many players use math. This is NOT a joke. His name was Rocky...

    I don't know how you are going to use this information, but apparently there is math that details the failure of using probability to figure your stats.

    I guess it's a no stats stat statistics. My brain hurts...

    ~FK 2024
     
  13. joe croupier

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    Ask my mom, she’s also into voodoo so win win !! Haha
     
  14. cps10

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    You’re 100% right about those arguments. Something bad is going to happen. If you’re on a craps table and some stupid bro either (1) throws money on the table in the middle of a heater; or (2) says something idiotic like “No 7!”, you can guarantee the next roll of the dice loses most if not all for the active players. If one was smart enough to react to such a thing and take down all their bets and bet on big 7, you’re probably way ahead in the game.
     

  15. Frank Kneeland

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    I remember you cps10. Before for my stroke. Hay there...:)
     
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    Zhang, One of the best pieces of advice given to me online was on John Patrick's website years ago and I still use it. In any card game observe and watch for a card magnet. In poker it's the guy that can do no wrong and suck out on any hand. In Baccarat it's the dealer that always scoops your money....
    I avoid getting in a poker hand with a magnet and for the most part I avoid those dealers. I know people on here will say they don't exist... If you've played enough poker you've had one of those nights when it's you. In bac you have the table following your every move. If you can get hot the dealers can also be hot. They can also be annoying as hell commenting on every loss you have. AVOID THEM!!!
     
  17. Zhang Wei

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    TheHolyGrail, please help me ask your mom to post here. Thank you.

    Porky, thank you for your advice. I'll check out John Patrick's website. Yes I do encounter those annoying dealers from time to time. But they are uncommon. I let my win/loss score tell me when to leave the table.
     
  18. Zhang Wei

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    Porky, could you direct me to John Patrick's website? All I find on Google are sites selling his books.
     
  19. Mars

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    - Don't watch any news ever.
    - Fire yourself from your J O B ASAP.
     
  20. Zhang Wei

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    - Ignorance is bliss. I chose to be informed. I watch both mainstream and alternative news to get neutral perspective.
    - Fire yourself from the job you hate to do the job you love. Yes. But don't rage quit without anything to replace the current income.
     

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