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Roulette Figure it out

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Denzie, Jun 5, 2022.

  1. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

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    this doesn't mean anything NBN because on the next fresh start early profit will take longer then my bank is gone!
     
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  2. Gigi666

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    Pretty much everyone say take early profit as that has few advantages.
    Shorter sessions:
    - less fatigue as you can take more frequent breaks
    - lower risk of making mistakes
    - in most cases this means you actually get more profit per spin ie. Method1 30 sessions, total profit 400u, spin count 355 VS playing Method2 30 sessions total profit 1200u, spin count 2350 , which one would you prefer?
    - lower drawdowns
    - depending on your method it'll also mean higher win %, giving you an option to work with a prog between sessions

    Either way when trying to figure it out, I'd advise to not be obsessed with winning flat every single session/race, not even winning every session with prog and definitely not to try to hit every single hint from everyone that posted here.

    One more note to those that say its same as random, it never is, in a sense that picking random numbers is well just that, following repeats the wheel and spin count "give" you the WHAT and the WHEN (see I start sounding like Turbo now ;)).
     
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  3. Gigi666

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    To add to the above, exit strategy is probably more important than anything else. You definitely don't want to always chase profit especially if using any progression.

    I suggest when testing, see how you'll perform with "open play" first ie. 250 spins, record highs and lows etc. then try playing till any first win, any first profit, a profit target based on average profit you were hitting in open play, stopping at X lap, stop after X matches etc. possibilities are endless, but I think that way you have better chance than JUST chasing the selection method itself.

    Then of course build solid money mgm around it, 80% session win rate ie. means you'll bound to hit 4 losing sessions streak multiple times , but it also means in 1000 sessions you will not experience 10 losing sessions in a row.
     
  4. atrox23

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    I really don't know what you are doing Gigi but i cant even build my BR as every session is different and nothing stable .. You seems to have figure it out and for us it will be still same as random until we see the results. But why keeping post still on the same page try to figure out and try to see?
     
  5. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

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    What is the point when i post a way to bet and i know how is done but when i post i give an example which is not the way it's just an example so that leads me to not just i can't find the way also losing time to find what i don't know what i am looking for.. I have to clarify for those who says, that i am not asking from you that have figure it out to give to us to a plate just dont give directions or example that will never help as it is not the way is an example !!

    Next if we go for the early profit why so complicated 3 or 4 ways for the same concept that is like making the easy harder..

    If we give the stats from NBN that he is posting all the time and i will add a better window , i will give it 12 spins for the first repeat so;

    1x >> 2x

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    6 Three unique bet them for 12 spins
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  6. SERGIO

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    I've been very busy these days and I haven't been able to participate, I hope to have more time these days.
    Regarding the top3 bet, the key is to play until you have one of the next level.
    We play 3 of 2x until we have 1 of 3x and we repeat the process.
    But try to do it from when you have 2 of 2x.
    Then continue with 3x, 4x, etc. until you have benefits by doing an aggressive cash management as Turbo talked about.
    But it can also be done better, from the Top2, we wait for 2 of 2x and we attack until we have 1 of 3x, then we repeat the process from 3x to 4x and so on, if they manage the money properly they will win.
    There may be sessions that start playing from 2 of 2x and as soon as you have 1 of 2x it repeats to 3x, therefore you have to evaluate whether to do it from when we have 1 of 2x and continue until 2 of 2x to look for the 3x or always do it from 2 of each level.
    The top3 has more expense and it is more difficult to manage money, the top2 is easier.
    There is even the pattern that when it repeats 3 of any level x, then it usually comes that it repeats when there are 2 or 1 to go up to the next level.
    This pattern is very common and safe.
    Regarding the gaps, it is necessary to do it with all the numbers to hit with certainty, therefore it is not completely adequate.
    And as you should already know, from 3x to 6x is when it happens that from 2-3 selected numbers, the next one always comes out, in those 3 levels it is very frequent, therefore an adequate progression is the way to win.
     
  7. SERGIO

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    The practical example of what I am saying is the following:
    We have 2 of 3x, we bet that one of the 2 will come out at 4x.
    If we have won with 2 of 3x for 4x, we should win.
    As soon as 1 to 4x comes out, if it is not our number we wait for the 2 of 4x to start our bet again.
    And so on...
    Being 2 numbers we have 18 bets to make which adjusts to the average indicated from level to level.
    It can also be done with one number, but it can take a long time.
     

  8. StackTrader

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    I appreciate you sharing that SERGIO. Can you speak more to the money management side of things? For me I'm always wanting to flat bet and make it work that way but I don't think it can be done with flat betting due to the drawdowns. Stop loss doesn't work because you end up breaking even or losing. Can you shed some light on what you do? I encourage everyone to share their own money management / progression system to help with the refining process. Even if it's not working share what you do to help everyone. Personally I have also tried with 3 numbers, removing the winner and placing +1u on remaining two numbers. This works great until it doesn't. You get wrecked with huge drawdown.
     
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  9. Ricardo

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    Hola Sergio, yo a esto le agregaría los promedios para intentar tener una ventana definida de cuando ingresar cada búsqueda o la distancia promedio entre la columna 1 de cada nivel. No son reglas fijas pero todo ayuda.
    Arriba explique que hago esto pero buscando que el primero pase de nivel con el 1, 2 y 3 del nivel anterior. Parece que no se entendió. Quizás el traductor. Sigamos avanzando.
     
  10. atrox23

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    I have tried all what you described SERGIO, what I am getting is when I start and bet for the average spin and then drop them I am already minus then start again for the next X based on average still minus. We are talking big BR that not all can afford. . Drop down like -100 -200 Is like within two cycles.
     
  11. Ricardo

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    A ver si puedo ayudar un poquito.
    Cuando termines cualquier nivel y no llegue tu número ganador deberás tener -35.
    Siguiente nivel +1.
    Si lo haces bien y llegas a un nuevo máximo, vuelves a 1, si no, vuelves a +1 hasta que alcances un nuevo máximo. La pregunta es "¿cuántos ciclos perdedores seguidos podemos tener?"
     
  12. Ricardo

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    I add this, maybe it helps to see the averages.
     
  13. KarlAtwo

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    This doesnt work this has been already tried ages ago. The combined gaps are the same as picking a random number.
     
  14. atrox23

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    Nothing helps Ricardo. Turbo was going if there where 0 match add 3, if there where 1 add 2, if 2 add 1 and if 3 add 0. . .if you
    can post an example of couple session how you play that would be something, not to much but at least better then saying this maybe helps...
     
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  15. atrox23

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    Yes Sergio, also this I shared days ago when I had from 1x to 6x the first numbers where all different, so automatically this is looser..
     
  16. Naughty but nice

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    atrox not like your reply #265. I reset on a new high.
    But in this stream if played the way you say above, take a look
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    Start is the #3.
     
  17. atrox23

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    Ok NBN i will start posting graphs like yours from now on , if this is the game that we play here rather than showing how!
     
  18. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    My graph is last 5
    The stream is quite simple to see for the way you say.
    Do I need to write it out, you are the designer.
     
  19. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

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    Let's start the game!

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  20. atrox23

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    Fake money is so easy!

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