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Roulette Gambler's fallacy is a fallacy --- And i'll prove it !!

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteTools, Dec 22, 2024.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Scratch ↑ that.

    It is relevant, paradoxically, to the moment you began witnessing ... it is 50/50 on the very first spin & always after that, if observed from the perspective of an individual spin only -- however from the perspective of a group of spins, the scale is tilted towards the hit, more & more on every next spin.

    In roulette, if you are smart, the target event us something that must happen, in an interval of spins, or if in your favor temporarily, even only one spin.
     
  2. Chrono

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    What is causing the probability of a coin toss to change when you measure an arbitrary number of flips?
    Does something happen to the coin?

    Similarly in roulette when a number lands, is that number now off limits for x number of spins giving the other numbers a higher probability to land? Does a number that missed for x number of spins become off limits for x more number of spins? These numbers are gone until they are added back? Reshuffled back on to the wheel?

    If nothing changes, then the probability doesn't change. It's pretty simple.
     
  3. Chrono

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    A group of spins is made up of individual spins that all had the same probability of occuring.
     
  4. Chrono

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    Honestly guys this stuff is such a surface level look at the game and probabilities.

    It's not that deep. No matter how you try to figure out streaks and patterns and probabilities etc... It's a nice intro into probabilities but after that just move on to actually beating a casino game.

    You can twist, turn, rearrange and perform all sorts of mental gymnastics with these streaks, repeaters, cold numbers and patterns, but at the end of the day you're just playing around with 1 + 1 = 2 endlessly.

    That's literally all you're doing.
     
  5. RouletteTools

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    Roulette is an illusion !!

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  6. Chrono

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    Lol

    It's just a bunch of numbers on a spinning wheel that a ball randomly falls into a pocket.

    There's no great underlying secret.
     
  7. RouletteTools

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    You're actually right and wrong at the same time, it's like duality in physics.

    "It's just a bunch of numbers on a spinning wheel that a ball randomly falls into a pocket."

    Randomly is the key word, when we can find order in chaos, chaos means random, a streak of reds is totally random yet looks ordered, this is the what i'm talking about.


    "What is the duality of physics?
    Duality is the incredible “two-in-one” combo of physics. Whenever two aspects of nature – electricity and magnetism, particles and waves, the field theory of particles and the theory of gravity – can be mathematically connected, new and unified theories of nature can emerge."


    It'll all makes sense lol
     

  8. juice

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    TRD is referring to Markov Chains where the method is using and in fact counting on the results of a fairly flipped coin.
    Using the results you create a scenario that mathematically favors one scenario over another.
    Note: the use of this method can be applied to your own creation of a progression where employing a press is very difficult for the casino to beat you providing you play with the proper frame of mind.
     
  9. RouletteTools

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    We need meditation !!

    Meditation dedication for the nation !!
     
  10. Chrono

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    That all sounds great, so let's hear the actual mechanisms involved. What are the steps?

    How do you specifically apply the duality of physics? How do you specifically apply the markov chains? What are the exact details?

    What exactly needs to be done?
     
  11. juice

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    Look up:
    *** (Head-tail versus head-head: A counterintuitive property of coin tosses.)
    This site won't let me post a link.

     
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  12. thereddiamanthe

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  13. Chrono

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    These are averages though, which means we will see most of the time the result earlier or later. And every so often we'll see a giant outlier way later than expected. And since the payouts of the game are not fair, you never win what you need to in order to stay even let alone get ahead.

    If things were actually predictable 100% of the time it would work. It's not gonna work.

    Hopefully I've deterred some people from following this path but honestly I don't care that much. It's all just basic 1+1=2 guys and you'll never get it to equal 3 no matter how hard you try. I've seen the sims, the excuses, the rationale and I know it ain't gonna work.
     
  14. RouletteTools

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    what ain't gonna work sorry ?
     

  15. RouletteTools

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    You want to look at symmetrical patterns on a coin flip, they don't and can't last long, it's understanding how far they go is the key to start betting against it.

    h,h,h,h,h,h,h,h is a systematical pattern, so is h,t,h,t,h,t,h,t,h,t,h so is hh,ttt,hh,ttt,hh,ttt,hh,ttt,hh,ttt, when we understand the length the streak goes we understand the best time to bet, if i was to take this practice to a roulette table i would use insurance bets to bet against a pattern such as h,l,h,l,h,l,h,l,h,l,h,l 2chips on highs 1 chip on 1st dozen should do the the job.

    Either way all symmetrical patterns have to end or we would win roulette ever spin.
     
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    PATTERN BREAKER?
     
  17. Georgie

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    Fascinating video. Thanks for posting. I couldn't entirely follow the math (but it looks logical). What is the summary takeaway with that, as you see it?

    Looks to me like the mathematician in the video said it will take on average 6 flips to get HH, but just 4 flips to get HT. So, this mathematically proves a streak is less likely than a break in streak, the way I understand him. Was that your understanding too?
     
  18. Claude Smith

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    It is a lot of nonsense.
    It always makes me laugh when I hear: there are far more 5 reds in a row than 10. Of course there are. That is not a proof of anything. Once you have 5 in a row, the probability of having another 5 in a row is just the same as if there was black and then 5 reds.
    If really there was a better chance of having a black after 5 reds, this would be a winnning proposition and everybody, I mean everybody, would be doing sometnhing like this and roulette would cease to exist.
    Call me a math zombie all you want, this is reality.
    There are only a few ways to win at this game and you will find them in the AP section. But none of them are easy. But again, that goes with the times we are in. Everybody wants to be rich tomorrow. Hard work? That is for suckers and losers. (Sounds familiar?)

    Insider
     
  19. RouletteTools

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    You are absolutely wrong, my 1st post is without doubt 100% facts, tested for 20yrs, sorry your maths is wrong, but you'll totally disagree with me.

    Physics used to have an old model until quantum physics came to light, proof peoples beliefs can change over night.

    Read my 1st post again.
     
  20. Denzie

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    Firstly...why would anyone play outside bets when there's inside bets with a much higher payout? Rookies do that.

    Secondly...there's more than just AP to beat this game. You just didn't figure it out yet.

    Thirdly....tools are for fools who can't beat this game .
     
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