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Baccarat thoughts on this system

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Johndepz, Mar 22, 2025.

  1. Johndepz

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    always be opposite except when there’s two in a row, then bet repeat until it breaks then follow step one always bet opposite. You get every streak and every chop. The only nemesis is terrible twos. You can also play this always be opposite except three in a row, then be repeat
     
  2. opiate

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    What’s the betting progression?

    All systems fail, so how you handle wins/losses and stops is important to any strategy.
     
  3. Johndepz

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    no progression just flat. I feel like if you have a dominant shoe any direction, it captures the dominance instantly
     
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    Are you betting every hand? Are you stopping when you reach a certain amount or losing a certain amount, or are you playing the whole shoe?

    In the right shoe, any betting system can be the best method, but more often than not, relying on a single method over and over will fail.

    At the end of the day, the win percentages for player/banker/tie is ~45/46/9%. If what you’re doing works for you, then keep on with it. I’m not a fan of flat betting as recovery can become a grind if you run into a string of bad luck. Then again, progressive bets get in trouble, but faster.

    Your system kind of reminds me of the n-series system by cyclegf studio on youtube (at least from what I’ve deduced from watching his videos as I wouldn’t pay someone for their method). It appears to be a decent system (outside of his spreadsheet magic), but falls to the fallacy that patterns have a high probability to repeat.
     
  5. Johndepz

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    it’s just a system that I created that the finds the bias and goes with it The only way it Loses is if a shoe is exactly 50-50 or close to it any other shoe it usually beats
     
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    There is no bias. Previous hands don’t influence the next hands.

    If it works for you, keep using it.
     
  7. Johndepz

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    my man, if you don’t think there’s a bias in every single shoe just stop playing the game that is the most craziest statement I’ve ever heard of my entire life. What do you think? Every shoe is exactly 50-50 lol I bet you you couldn’t find an exact 50-50 shoe. If you played for 10 years in a row there is no chance it ends exactly 50-50 ever
     

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    What you just described is TB4L. Time before last. It’s been around forever.
     
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  9. Johndepz

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    exactly
     
  10. opiate

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    lmao if you say so bud. Everything you just said is factually wrong, but believe whatever voodoo you want.
     
  11. Johndepz

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    actually, it’s 100% fact and if you’d like to fact, check it, I promise you and your entire life you can never find exactly 50-50 shoe but when you do find one, please take a screenshot and show me because you’re living in a fantasy world if you think they could shuffle cards exactly 50/50 Every single shoe has a bias
     
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    You’re 100% wrong. There is no bias. It will not help you in any future bets. And bac isn’t a 50/50 game. I never said it was - you projected your ridiculousness on that. You only think you see a bias. Previous outcomes have 0 effect on future outcomes, but again, if you wanna believe in woo, that’s on you.
     
  13. Johndepz

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    i’m done speaking to you until you show me a shoe that is exactly 50% bankers and 50% players until then zip it because you have zero clue as to what you’re talking about you math zombie nerd
     
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    lol okay, enjoy the “system you thought of that’s been around forever and has been proven it’s a failing system like all systems” and whatever woo you believe.
     

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    never did I ever say the system would not fail. I said there is no chance in hell that there is not a bias in every single shoe. The bias is different in every shoe therefore, no system can ever work long-term, but there is always a bias
     
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    except there isn’t. You’re presuming that previous outcomes weigh on future outcomes and that isn’t the case. Just because a shoe starts off with 15 player and 8 banker doesn’t mean player will be a safe bet or have a higher outcome. In fact, I just watched a shoe flip flop between player and banker until the last 10 hands.

    You have ~45/46/9% chance on any given bet for player/banker/tie, with extremely minor variations as cards are removed.

    You can say “this shoe favored x/y/z” at the end of a shoe, but that in no way helps during the shoe. A bias implies favoritism for future events, and that simply isn’t the case. Thinking it does is, in fact, a gamblers fallacy.
     
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    that is not what i am saying im saying every shoe has a bias no mayter if its 1 more banker then player or vice versa it is almost impossible to see a shoe wirh 30 bankers and 30 players at the end
     
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    Response to an older post
     

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    you can largely ignore my last response. I was replying to an old message.


    You’re right that you rarely see that, but I’ve seen the winning hand leader flip flop more times in a shoe than it being a steady winner. Either way though, it doesn’t influence the next outcomes % of hitting. It’s like flipping a coin 100 times and it coming up heads 3 more times than tails at the end, but each flip doesn’t affect the next.

    eta: also the shoe i posted above was fairly even throughout, as was the 2nd shoe I played. It happens more than you think.
     
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