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TurboGenius Writings of a GENIUS

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Mar 4, 2025.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    P-S you need to test some more. Here random org supposedly the best to use like MPR.
    2396 units. Tested with live German spins and RNG it just plays the same. As said before you need to find the progression and TG didn't give you much.
    Also max is unit 100 not 250 like R-sim as Steve always quoted
     
  2. PersonS

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    There was a session when in the coincidence column there was something
    1-2-1-1-1-2-1. This was when playing with 4 numbers. I don't know what progression could pass this hole.
     
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  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    As TG said the further you go the better they show.
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    These played just now.
     
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    This is a great session. Only 3 drops = 1. But when a hole comes and there can be 5-7 drops in the column, and a few more 0. Then the drawdown goes off the charts.
     
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  5. Gigi666

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    Thinking about this bit more in terms of simple going for first repeat. Which position (spin count) repeats more often first? It shouldn't be a surprise it'll be 1-5 position/spun number max. You know repeat will happen , rarely it'll go to 25 spins, very often it'll be simply one of the top3 1x (you can test yourself how often), you could also just pick one number, payout doesn't change but you only pick from much smaller group than 37 numbers. You'll lose some sessions, could you apply prog between sessions? Probably best that way if you know win% expected, definitely dont chase with negative prog.

    Example string

    23 (in this example I want to always play first and 2nd position only your top2 1x)
    12 so playing now those 2 numbers only
    34
    13
    13
    Session ends we lose 7u

    11 play
    10 play
    23
    13
    36
    0
    36
    We lose 11u

    24 play
    22 play
    11
    23
    6
    4
    0
    27
    22 win

    +21u from that session -18u from previous two =3u profit

    If you know how many on avg you're expected to win vs lose and streaks, you could build prog around it. Can it be extended beyond 2x lap? Probably
     
  6. atrox23

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    Static or dynamic Gigi results will be the same as per positions , static (for a period of time , not always) is more easy to track . 1st position-s on static will hit more then others same for dynamic as it is opposite last appeared will hit more ;
    There were discussion about two ways on how to approach a structure , one is an example i gave ,one is what you did here.

    Your 1st set (23,12,34,13,13) defined by 13 static is P4 Dynamic is P1
    Your 2nd set (11,10,23,13,36,0,36) defined by 36 static is P5 Dynamic P2
    Your 3rd set ( 24,22,11,23,6,4,0,27,22) defined by 22 static is P2 Dynamic P7

    Second is that we dont have to start from scratch next cycle as they are (connected) for the time we are playing then is done everything reset.

    1st set (23,12,34,13,13) the number that ended this cycle has nothing in-between repeated numbers so i s only 13, this tho now nca can go as first for next cycle.

    2nd set (13,11,10,23,13) P1 vs P4
    3rd set (13,11,10,23,36,0,36) P5 vs P2
    4rth set (36, 0,24,22,11,23,6,4,0) P2 vs P7

    An and so on : There is more to it ..
     
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  7. Gigi666

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    I'm not playing just that or exactly that just thought it simplifies a lot, and I agree, when played I'd take the last repeat as start of next "round" as in your last example.
     

  8. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    106 spins laps-x are slow. Lap 7x, 20-33. Lap 1x completed in 104 spins.
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    Here are the 106 spins. You can see how far betting top3 numbers; that sometimes could have 5 numbers to be used, get stretched.
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    Here are 10 columns of 20 positions. If no dealer change then you'd have 200 numbers. But more often you get between 180 to 190 numbers.
    So, laps 1x upto 10x. On that diagonal line, various sheets posted. How many laps complete? like above 104 spins. And how many laps will have started?
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    Table 4, 02.12.24

    Don't over think it
     
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    Table 4, 02.12.24


    This shows well a session where new leader shows on every lap until 7x hits same, but its one of those things we know must happen eventually.
     
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    What was the bet size and progression?
     
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    A little about the sleepers. This is from today's session.
    A dozen slept 23 spins.
     

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    The game is fully developed.
    The bow is missing.
     
  14. PersonS

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    I got the idea, thanks.
    Notto, but my question was different. On the screen with RS, your starting bankroll = 10,000.
    What unit size do you make the initial bet, and if there are no repeats at the beginning, how much does the bet increase with each spin?
    Is it a negative progression or a positive one.
     

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    P-S the bet does not increase every spin. Its Dependant on which lap shows, what stakes will be.
    This just played at MPR where max unit is 100. So you'll need to fined the prog that'll get you to lap 10x.
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    21413 6273 575431 586872 1.0198825 14.04.25 (65)
    22538 6384 577186 589752 1.0217711 16.04.25 (66)
     
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    The translator made a mistake.
    I wanted to say how much you raise in a CIRCLE if you don't hit.
    And your race is always = x10?
    When you make a stop loss on a win?
     
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    In general, it didn't work out. At first I tripled the bank, but then lost everything. I only bet the best repeats from the top 3. With positive progression. It's all about slow repeaters and leader changes, there is no chance to get around the edge. About 80-90% of sessions will be easy, but the remaining 10 will destroy the entire bankroll.
     
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    Notto, I'm sure you've had losses too, you just don't talk about it.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Off course I have. Its testing is it not.
    I need to see how far it can go.
    Could have stopped with 1060 profit; but this was betting all hot numbers.
    Like I said you have to test.

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    Just now on MPR. 98 spins
    22538 6384 577186 589752 1.0217711 16.04.25 (66)
    23002 6482 580538 593568 1.0224447 17.04.25 (67)
     
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    Try these spins.
     

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