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Roulette ROLLER...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sentinel 1, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. StackTrader

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    Does the cycle start from my last win/loss or is it fixed from beginning of session to end? 5,9,12(c1)26,8,2(c2)36,9,7(c3) regardless if wins or losses occurred? Also how do zeros affect cycles?
     
  2. Sentinel 1

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    RRR--Thats a complete cycle Stack.

    You bet for a WIN on each cycle then stop. Wait for it to complete then go again. You only stop once the pattern is found.

    Zero will cost you profit. Like Tax on your wages means you get less than you actually earned.

    But as I said Theres enough ZERO wins on STEP one to minimise its effect on your profit margin overall. Lets say A set ends with 114 units profit. The ZERO in some SETS may cost you 30 or 40 of those units in monetary terms.

    In others it will be less. Because there were enough bonus wins on STEP 1. To overcompensate this. For example in SET 23. I had 46 ZEROS. 30 of them were on STEP 1 of P7/P8. Of the 16 on STEP 2 and STEP 3. 7 caused me to lose the cycles completely. The 30 wins recovered this lose and won some additional profit. In excess of the 115 units.
     
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  3. StackTrader

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    Carry on betting meaning XX0+X or XX0, if XX0 we bet next spin for next set of 3 (cycle of 3) to find P8.
    Sorry for all the questions, I'm struggling with getting the full understanding.
     
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  4. StackTrader

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    I guess to simplify what i'm asking, is this, do we ever go to step 4 or is EVERYTHING ALWAYS contained within 3 steps, 3 cycles, 3 spins.
     
  5. StackTrader

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    Is there ever a situation were you stop betting on P8 mid-progression and wait for next cycle?
     
  6. WeWillWin

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    Hello Sentinel,

    I would like to emphasize a point that can improve the roller’s performance in two ways:

    • It will save time and speed up the process of finding the starting point of the game.
    • It will increase the success rate of the gameplay, making it more challenging for Mr. Random.

    Currently, we eliminate all completed patterns until only two remain, and then we start playing.
    Now, I want you to focus on the first three numbers and create three different starting points for the game.
    • The first record starts from the first number.
    • The second record starts from the second number.
    • The third record starts from the third number.
    Example:
    31 21 29 3 11 14 18 22 26 7 11 33 17 6 3 29 32 1 19 8
    • 8 - start of the first record
    • 19 - start of the second record
    • 1 - start of the third record
    • 31 - Last spin

    First record bring RRR+BRR at spin 33 and Mr. Random found P8 at spin 46:
    Screenshot 2025-04-21 081029.png
    Second record bring BRR+BBR at spin 18 and Mr. Random found P8 at spin 52:
    Screenshot 2025-04-21 080910.png
    Third record bring RRR+RRB at spin 44 and Mr. Random found P8 at spin 63:
    Screenshot 2025-04-21 081235.png

    Thus, we rely on the second record and challenge Mr. Random to complete all the patterns at this speed... He probably won’t be able to.
    As I mentioned earlier, this method saves time by bring starting points faster and complicates matters for our friend Mr. Random, allowing us more time to play on the seventh and eighth patterns, which means more potential earnings.

    Good luck to everyone!
     
  7. mansi19896

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    im not sure you calculate zero profit properly
    if your unit is 10 and 1 is in zero, but a bet win on zero. gives you actually 2,2 unit profit as 10 is still your unit
    B bet win on zero something like 0.5 units
    but your chart never shows 0,2 something something. Always all around numbers
     

  8. PersonS

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    So, I did a test using the Ayk tracker. I set the config to 3, and pressed the random button until the desired combination appeared. The game was against P8.
    As P8, I used 8 combinations
    RRR BBB
    RRB BBR
    RBB BRR
    RBR BRB
    I simply went through this list from top to bottom, and counted how many cycles it took to get the desired combination.
    The results are not impressive, because they are the same as in the Sentinel table.

    I got this
    7
    22
    2
    4
    8
    4
    14
    16
    19
    13
    10
    2
    1
    2
    3
    30
    This is from column 6.
    Count how many games there were in this column from 1 to 8.
    And how many there were from 9 and more.
    And you will understand what I mean.
     
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  9. PersonS

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    By simply betting against random patterns, we have the same results. So you don't have to wait until there are 2 combinations left)
     

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    but what after complete 1 game cycle i go new table to do 1 game only always like this table to table. Should be similar results?
     
  11. PersonS

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    For a more in-depth study, you can also take random p7 and p8, i.e. 2 random combinations (for example, RBR/BBB) and immediately start betting against them using the betting rules. The main thing is to change these combinations after each game, because if you do this against static combinations throughout the entire set, there will be a bias, this is the wrong approach.
     
  12. PersonS

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    In general, no magic, math again. Why in column 6 I chose a value from 1 to 8, because at 8 we break even, and from 1 to 7 we lose. We need more W.
     
  13. StackTrader

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    That makes sense to me but surely Sentinel has tried it? Have you tested for long enough to compare to Sentinel's method and does it earn like his?
     
  14. Sentinel 1

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    Nò step 4 Trader. One cycle is only ever 3 spins. No matter what happens.
     

  15. Sentinel 1

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    You dont worry about that. Play the system. What you get is what you get. Remember NOBODY is supposed to beat this game year after year. Every mathematician will tell you its impossible. Play and win and stop overthinking it.
     
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    Possibly it does. But theres no symmetry. If you go random You will get more irregular results that will drawdown more. And that will mess with your confidence. Its always the lack of PATIENCE that defeats the gambler. I structure ROLLER in a symmetrical fashion. And its consistency has never let me down.
     
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  17. PersonS

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    20 games. The hit percentage was not different. This is enough. Those who have coding skills can check at a greater distance.
     
  18. PersonS

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    Let's generate 6 spins of random org. These are our patterns 7 and 8. Now when both patterns appear, we generate new 6 and continue playing. That's it, you just play random against random, math does its job... And no need for any tricky schemes. You will get the same results, without the long wait
     
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    Why there is no symmetry, look at my results.
    This is 9 L
    This is 7W
    If you calculate your tables, you will have something like 60L 40W.
     
  20. PersonS

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    Or generate 2 times 3 spins. Naturally, so that they do not coincide.
     

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