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Craps Frank Scoblete interview

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by SCAN, Mar 1, 2015.

  1. SCAN

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    member of this forum Frank Scoblete recently had a blockbuster interview by Mitch and Dr. Kev at Tipping The Odds Las Vegas. He talks about his experiences in the Dice Control world and reveals a heartbreaking betrayal by a friend. You can check it our on their site.

    I would love to hear your thoughts after you hear the interview
     
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    Well, let me preface this review as only Part 1 (~17:30 minutes) of the interview .... Poor Frank -- amazing how much he thinks he knows about craps, but misses so much of reality:

    1. Frank basically says Craps is 100% about the Math -- that there is no such thing as trending and external factors that effect the outcome of the dice ... yet he says on his Blog that if he is traveling to an away Baseball game, his attendance effects the outcome :rolleyes: ;)

    a. Frank says you have to ignore trends and look at a Million rolls to realize that the math will even out .... yet he ignores reality that no one plays for a Million rolls with the same dice on the same table :rolleyes:

    b. Frank talks about following trends in other forms of gambling, such as roulette throughout his articles, yet says you should ignore the possibility of trends in Craps :rolleyes:

    c. Will Frank reveal that the math of Craps may be altered by the introduction of unbalanced dice into the game by Casinos ?

    d. Will Frank admit he has never used a dice balancing caliper for more than 1 hour correctly to measure live casino dice, yet calls himself a Dice expert ?

    2. Franks says he will disclose that 17% of the "Dice Controllers" that were "Dishonest" ("scammers") and/or "insane" in his employ and he had to fire:

    a. Will Frank admit he may be just a bad judge of character ... firing almost 17% (approximately 1 in 6) of your partners/employees tells me you may just be a bad business manager or maybe you foster an atmosphere that allows for such discord ?

    b. Will Frank admit that he is guilty of contributory negligence for allowing one of his partners/employees to steal $51,000. from him ?

    c. Will Frank admit that the real truth about the Captain is also "dishonest" -- that the Captain's dice accomplishments were exaggerated for Marketing purposes ??!!

    d. Will Frank admit that the cheap GTC dice he sold on his website were unbalanced ??!! (I have physical evidence as proof)

    e. Will Frank admit that it is possible that Casinos may also be "Dishonest" in the game of craps or only players/partners/employees allowed to be "Dishonest" and "evil" ??!!
    (cue in all the historical greedy "evil" corporations here, especially those that are allowed to exist in a "Fox guarding the Hen house" State Gaming Commission scenario)

    f. Will Frank disclose the names of these 17% firings in his new book ??

    .... interesting that you can infer that Frank's Business Management interviewing skills were basically like rolling fair dice -- that his partnering/hiring skills were like rolling a 7 (roughly 17%) :eek: ;)

    3. Will Frank disclose that he received monies directly or indirectly from Casinos to help fund parts of his Craps business, publishing books, etc. (other than from the tables) ??

    ..... IMO, Franks suffers from the typical "teacher syndrome" - that teachers live more in theory than reality ... and that most teachers can not be successful in business using a pure honest business model .... However, Frank is probably the most successful marketing guru of Craps ... in other words Frank Scoblete is the Madonna of Craps

    Frank does admit in Part 1 of the interview at Minute 52:00 of the above mentioned Link by basically saying: that you cannot "BS your way around" in solid subjects like Math or Science ... but "with Literature, as long as you know your stuff, you can make things interesting" for your audience ... and "teaching Literature fit his personality" (cue in the exaggerated "BS" storytelling of the Captain here)

    ... and that is just my opinion

    opinions on Part 2 of the interview to follow in another post after I get back from Caesar's
     
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    Well just listened to the interview. Funny how doesn't believe in Trends at the craps Table. He talks about the 7 coming up 17% of the time and that if over a period of time, its coming up 15%, he says that doesn't mean it will make up ground to recover to 17%. My question would be then why does it. Just a coincidence? Same with any other number. It will all balance back and in the 'Short Term' in can be exploited IMO.

    I would LOVE to be at a table with him and i tell him you make 30 bets and I make 30 bets. Yours can be based off your stupid 5 count and i'll do mine off Trend Setter Craps, and when the dust settles, we will see who wins more bets and Win a Higher %. Ive already done this with a person using The Strategy and TSC ousted The Strategy at a 3:2 margin, based off same size bets being made, with a 3rd party doing the roll data read off of 200 dice rolls and some of his bets were made after I called out my bet where I gave him plenty of time to get his down before me once i noticed this. I did feel 20-25% were piggybacking me as this person did have plenty of time to call out his play before me, but waited until after I made my decision. Coincidence or piggyback of my high Win %?

    Trends do exist Scobe and Im willing to bet on it. Lookin forward to the 2nd part of the interview.
     
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    Trends are the driving force behind craps, if it wasn't for trends we would all be losing! Common sense says there are trends on a craps table and for the math of the game to come out right there are times that numbers have to catch up. To begin with the players are only at a craps table for a very short period of time, when anything can happen. Everybody could have PSO's and never make their point. Nobody on the table could made a 6 or a 8, those two numbers could have disappeared altogether!


    If that isn't a trend I don't know what Frank would call it. Those kinds of incidents happen everyday on the craps tables. Table go hot or cold,.. were one side of the table is getting killed and the other side is winning. Are you going to stand at the table and say my bets should be winning, therefore I will keep betting them until they do? Do you have the bank roll that will allow you to do so? Then do you have the bank roll that will allow you to play catch up? Are you only going to make the pass-line bet or the don't pass bet every time, so you might break even after those 10,000 rolls of the dice?


    Well the casinos do,.... they have a unlimited amount of chips that they can put on their tables. Their game goes on 24 hours a day, can you play for 24 hours or more straight so you can just break even? If it wasn't for deviation you would have a very hard time even winning at craps, after all isn't it a negative game?


    The math of the game will come close to working out if everything on the craps table you are playing on is fair after somewhere around 10,000 rolls of the dice. So when looking at the math of the game do you have the bank roll to survive those 10,000 rolls of the dice?
     
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    Frank Scoblete - Over on Heavy Haltom's message board, they are accusing me of stealing the $51,000. from you ... just more fiction which they promote very much of on that board

    Anyway, the word on LV Strip is that your partner Dom cleaned out your bank account to the tune of $51,000. and that you did not "retire" from GTC, but that this event helped you walk away from the GTC partnership

    Frank .... my question for you is why did you allow Dom that much access to your business bank account ??!! .... most businesses put a ceiling on the amount of funds that can be drawn from a Business account without dual signatures -- like $2,500. or $5,000. for your size of business.
     
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    The 2nd part of Frank Scoblete's interview can be found at the following Link .... if you only want to hear the FS interview by Mitch and Dr. Kev's Tipping the Odds Las Vegas, you can skip the 1st hour of the podcast and go to approximately 01:07:30:

    http://tippingtheoddslasvegas.libsy...nd-dr-kevs-tipping-the-odds-las-vegas-podcast

    In the last minute of the interview, Franks says:
    Near the 1 hour and 15 minute mark of the podcast, Frank Scoblete makes reference that he goes to Vegas far more than Atlantic City now .... What ?!?! ... Frank - Dom comes to Vegas more than you do ... Vegas is my neighborhood and we have enough boots on the ground that we know when you and Dom are in town .... now it makes sense as to why you think you know so much about craps, but miss so much of reality of craps -- you just don't play craps that much, at least not in Las Vegas or Atlantic City ... so where do you play craps Frank ??

    In Part 2 of the interview, Frank Scoblete does have a good conversation about the pitiful state of Comps

    ... and that is just my opinion
     
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    Harley Said: Frank Scoblete - Over on Heavy Haltom's message board, they are accusing me of stealing the $51,000. from you ... just more fiction which they promote very much of on that board...

    I recall seeing a post about the Scoblete radio interview and his claims about someone stealing $51K from him. I know who I believe it to be - assuming it happened at all. But if anyone on my forum accused you of stealing $51K from Scoblete then odds are I missed it and one of my moderators busted the post (as they should have). I did a search of the forum and could not find it.

    I do find it interesting that these sorts of things always seem to happen at times when I'm teaching a seminar and have limited access to the forum. You'd almost think some of these guys watch my calendar and plan it that way.
     
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    Heavy, let me help you navigate on your own board - Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015:
    Reply posted by your member Golfer on your board - Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015:
    Link to your board for your reference - http://www.axispowercraps.com/crapsforum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3677&p=50045#p50045

    ... as far as watching your calendar and planning it that way - paranoid are you LoL .... you posted parts of your trip report AND deleted almost 90% of a thread between Saturday night and Sunday morning when you were on your seminar out of town in-between this OP and reply made on your board by 2 different posters, so no one is buying your car salesman type BS about having "limited access to the forum" ... so what are you whining about ?!!

    ... besides you said you are on the road all the time for your job
     
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    Heavy said: if anyone on my forum accused you of stealing $51K from Scoblete then odds are I missed it and one of my moderators busted the post (as they should have). I did a search of the forum and could not find it.

    Harley said: Heavy, let me help you navigate on your own board . . .

    Ah, thanks for pointing me toward that and refreshing my memory. I had searched for "Scoblete" when I should have searched for "famous gaming author."

    Regarding my presence on the forum, even when I'm on the road I log on the board at least once every 24 hours to activate new accounts, check my private messages and check new posts. This usually happens in the very early morning hours - after Midnight - before I call it a night.

    While in Biloxi I was typically with students from 6AM for early bird sessions - until as late as midnight in late night sessions. I did receive e-mails from several forum members who said you had contacted them complaining about posts they'd made about you on the forum and threatening legal action. I didn't spend a lot of time reviewing the posts, although I do recall that I had commented on one of them, referencing the "Monica Lewenski beret" you like to wear on one of the threads. I also recall telling posters their best choice would be to simply ignore your antics on other forums. In any case, those threads were deleted at the request of the original posters.

    You will be happy to know that I have installed a block on the use of your "handle" on the forum so that we won't have these issues in the future. Any time anyone uses "Harley" in a post the phrase "NAME DELETED BY ADMIN" now appears in its place. Now not only are YOU banned from the site - the mention of your HANDLE is banned from the site. Enjoy your obscurity.

    Last of all, "all of the time" was a figure of speech. I'm only on the road three weeks out of the month.
     
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    Heavy - you are welcome and thanks for your clarification ....
     
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    Now, back to the topic at hand - Frank Scoblete's Interview and new book - here is the description from Amazon:

    51P7n2AGbWL.jpg

    LoL Frank - who was your photo editor to allow monopoly dice on the cover of your book instead of real casino dice ?!?!

    "Dice control. The only way to beat the casinos at craps!

    Frank Scoblete reveals his secrets and takes you step-by-step through his dice control techniques: sets, stance, grip, throw, arc, backspin, landing, proper betting and the 5-Count.

    Additionally, Frank exposes the good, the bad and the ugly betrayals he experienced in 25 years playing with the world's greatest dice controllers.

    Join the legendary Captain, the father of dice control. Marvel at the greatest dice controller of all time, the woman known as "The Arm" in the roaring days of Atlantic City!

    Meet today's dice control stars: the Dominator, Jerry "Stickman," Chris "Sharpshooter" Pawlicki, Howard "Rock 'n Roller," Bill "Ace-10" Burton, Bob "Mr. Finesse," John "Skinny," Nick@Night, Billy "the Kid," Daryl "No Field Five," Arman "Pit Boss," Mark "Dice Pilot," Randy "Randman," and Tim "Timmer."

    Learn about PARR the first dice control class created by controversial author Jerry Patterson. Enter the famous Golden Touch dice control school.

    Meet the great dice control teams: the Captain's Crew, the Lee Brothers, the Five Horsemen, and the tag teams of Marilyn "the Goddess" and Charlie "Sandtrap," Heavenly Kitten and Star Shine; Pat "Dr. Crapology" and Janis "Alligator Rose."

    Meet the crooks, the cheats, the scoundrels and the screw-ups of the dice-control world.

    Join Frank on his adventures inside the exclusive world of elite dice controllers."
     
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    Also on Amazon:
    "Editorial Reviews
    From the Author

    For over 25 years I played at craps tables with the greatest dice controllers in the world; including the best I ever saw, a woman known as "the Arm." I learned all the essentials of being a great craps player and a great gambler from the true genius of craps, the late Captain, the legendary player from Atlantic City.

    For 10 years I taught dice control classes with Golden Touch Craps until I left the group in 2012.

    Yes, my skills have also been something of a dark cloud over my head as many casinos, casino venues and whole states have banned me from playing in their jurisdictions, despite the fact that I do not violate any laws.

    All of my adventures I recount in I Am a Dice Controller: Inside the World of Advantage-Play Craps!

    Sad to say, I have also met talented dice controllers whose character and morality left a lot to be desired. In fact, I found myself robbed and cheated by a dice controller I considered a close friend, a betrayal I still haven't gotten over.

    This book lays it all out there for you to see. I hope you enjoy it!"

    Frank - Will you disclose the real reason why you were technically banned from teaching craps in Mississippi and which law the state of Mississippi alleges you violated ??
     

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    Frank - will you disclose the real reason you had all of your former GTC Business partner Howard Rock n' Roller's record throws erased from your former GTC website ??!!

    (From another source: "During his tenure with GTC, Howard Rock n' Roller was a member of their 50, 60, 70 and 80 roll club using the PARR/GTC throwing technique. His longest recorded roll was 84 rolls before the seven-out. During a five day period with GTC, Howard threw hands lasting one 1 hour or more in the casino each day. GTC players referred to him as the "Babe Ruth" of Dice Control because of his long rolls and hitting the hard ways numerous times during his rolls.")
     
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    For those of you that do not understand why I am asking hard questions (or lambasting) the self-proclaimed "gaming's #1 best-selling author" Frank Scoblete, I offer the below 2 tales of the same event (my apologies to those that have already read it):

    Frank Scoblete Exposed ...

    The following 2 accounts of the same event exposes the car salesmanship of Frank Scoblete and Golden Touch Craps:

    From: F. Scoblete <[email protected]>
    Date: Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:49 AM
    Subject: My EXPLOSIVE Week in Vegas!
    To: [email protected]

    A new discussion was started by F. Scoblete in

    Craps --
    My EXPLOSIVE Week in Vegas!

    My trip to Vegas from October 22 to October 29 was a roller coaster of fun, misery and interesting circumstances.

    Let’s get the advantage-play over with first. I won…a little. I had been up quite a bit in craps through Sunday, October 25. I shot four times, won on three of those rolls (one a big one) and thought I was in for a great week ahead after the GTC dice control class ended. Dom was hot; so was Stickman and Skinny. It was good. I was good. The Five Horsemen were riding high. It was all good.

    Then nasty reality struck.

    Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of October 26, 27 and 28 saw me plummet into craps hell. I took the dice 18 times; won on four rolls, double-pitched as if the dice were satanically calling to me, “Seven out, Scobe, seven out fast and make a fool of yourself!” Oh, I did; I did.

    On Monday evening, Dominator had a 39 roll, and then fell flat on two more hands. That was fine as his 39 had been number after number – a typical great Dominator hand. We made money, nice money on that roll. I took the dice three times as well. The first two times, well, “sucked” is too kind a word to describe my shooting.
    There was a young man in the proverbial baseball cap standing near the dealer on the end of the left side of the table. He wasn’t betting; he was just watching. I didn’t know him; he wasn’t a student of GTC; just some baseballed capped kid watching the Five Horsemen essentially stink up the craps table. He had not been at the table to see Dom’s 39 roll.

    After my second disastrous roll, the capped one said, (Harley Misquoted):
    Obviously while I didn’t know him; he knew me. I couldn’t believe he just shouted this across the table at me. Also, I had shot two Point/Seven Outs. How the hell could anyone analyze anything on such a short sample? And it’s 2V; not V2.

    Now the dealers and box person all knew us and they would cheer when we hit numbers because 1.) we tip and 2.) we are nice guys to deal to and with. They were also surprised that this capped kid shouted his recommendations across the table.

    I ignored him.

    Not Dominator, he moved back from the table, looked at the kid and said, “What the fuck!” I don’t think the capped kid heard him. Then Dom took the dice and quickly sevened out.

    Then the dice went around the table – Skinny, Nick-at-Night, Stickman and me sevening out quickly – then Dominator got the dice. Dom sevened out quickly too. And then it happened.

    The capped kid said, “Dom, let me give you some advice about your shooting.” Dom looked at him, his face totally surprised. “I can help you shoot better. I see the flaws in your shot.”

    Now, Dom will take advice from shooters he respects; we all will. But who was this capped one to give the Dominator advice? The box person rolled his eyes and looked at me and shook his head as if to say, “This kid is an idiot!”

    Dom – his face red and the veins on his head pulsating – shot a devastating hate-look at the capped one and screamed: “Shut the fuck up! If I want your advice I’ll ask for it! Who the fuck are you?”

    Dom took his cane and I thought for sure the capped one was about to be anally violated. Thankfully, Stickman stepped between Dom and the capped one who, white as a ghost, ran away from the table as fast as his legs could carry him.

    We colored up and went to get some gelato.

    Craps was a no-win proposition after that. While some of the Horsemen had good rolls; we just couldn’t get enough of them to get ahead and our short rolls tended to be losers as well (winning short rolls are even more important than those occasional monster rolls).

    However, we played our advantage-brand of Pai Gow poker, which allowed us to overcome our overall poor performance at craps.

    A small win is better than no win. Plus we got everything for free at the casino so our expenses were nil.

    The GTC class weekend was fun as usual. Great new students; great refresher and advanced students. Old friends; new acquaintances; good stuff.

    I did have some troubles during the weekend. For the week before and during (and even now as I write this), I have been sick. First it was fever and chills; then aches and fever and chills; then logginess; then diarrhea; then laryngitis. Different symptoms on different days.

    Usually I am funny during the “Meet and Greet” but this night was a real struggle trying to emcee the event. It wasn’t that I couldn’t come up with funny lines; it was just I couldn’t say them right. You see, I was about to (ladies, you might not want to read further) have diarrhea – yes, right there on stage. If I used my usual energy, I knew I would explode all over the place since my stomach muscles tighten as I explode with mirth. But I didn’t want to explode with mirth and smelly muck as well! So I had to hold it all back while I tried to finish my introductions and strained funny comments.

    I could feel the hideous stuff building up too. It was waiting, bubbling just behind my sphincter longing to come ripping out and embarrassing me forever in the eyes of my students.

    When I finished, I leaped off the stage, launched myself into the elevator and made it to my room. I made it…just made it, thank you God…and did what I needed to do in a wild explosion of horror. It was Hiroshima on the toilet.

    After the attack, I thought I was okay to go to our GTC instructors’ pizza party, which we always hold after the “Meet and Greet.” I went down to pool side and grabbed some slices. But the inner monster started gurgling again, and again I could feel the buildup of an imminent atomic explosion.

    I got up and ran like a lightning bolt to the elevator. But this time I was stalled by the night of the living dead.

    Four elderly people were ambling slowly down the hall to the elevator. A fifth one was holding the elevator doors open. The five of them probably had a combined age of a thousand years. All had hearing aids. Two were using walkers. They must have been using the walkers for decades – they were rusty.

    I was now in the elevator with the woman who was holding the doors open. I was holding out my pizza plate and holding in my bowels.

    “They are very slow,” croaked the woman holding the elevator doors. “You want to eat your pizza, right? Hurry up down there,” she squeaked to her colleagues. “There’s a young man who wants to eat his pizza.”

    “Yeah,” I said. I could hardly talk. It was on the edge. Now, the first of the living dead entered the elevator.

    “Oh, pizza,” she said. “I love pizza.”

    After seven-hundred fifty years the other three made it to the elevator.

    “What floor are we on?” asked the only man, a mummy with a hearing aid as big as his head.

    “I don’t know,” said one of the women. My God, I thought, there are only three floors in the whole damn hotel! They weren’t on the first obviously, which is where we were in the stinking elevator, so there were only two floors left!

    “Why don’t we just press the other two buttons and you can figure it out as we go up,” I strained.

    “Good idea, young man, good idea,” said mummy-man. And up we went.

    I was on the second floor and I rushed out of the elevator. “My, my,” said one of the women. “You must really want to eat that pizza!”

    I made it to the bathroom and in a Nagasaki-like explosion, I finished my horrible “Meet and Greet and Gush” evening.

    Tuesday evening, I was in the high-roller-room bathroom, standing over the bowl happily peeing. These bathrooms are single toilet ones. No urinal; just a toilet; all very elegant in amenities but one person at a time.

    A woman walked in. There I was with Godzilla in my hands (Godzilla is the name of my you-know-what) spewing his fiery essence into the bowl. (Sometimes I call Godzilla Goliath.)

    “What are you doing in here?” she yelled.

    Godzilla stopped in mid-flow…and shrunk to the size of a raisin.

    “This is the men’s room,” I said, trying to hide my pin-sized mini-monster.

    “You should have locked the door!” she screamed at me, and stormed out of the bathroom.

    Oh, there’s more…but I have to get back to working on my third book for Triumph Books now.

    It was a fun but a sometimes tough week this trip. But I did make it home with a win. And that’s what counts.

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    Now is my accounting of the SAME evening that can be verified by 2 other witnesses and charted by 2 ... and I posted this before Frank's email above:

    I get a call from a local GTCer mentioning that the GTC gang leaders Frank Scoblete and the Dominator (Dominic Loriggio - ‘The Dominator’ ) would be shooting over at Bellagio ..... watching them shoot was fun and frightful at the same time as they each lost $$ as they ended with more PSOs than rolls over 10 ... so bad that even the "Captain's 5 Count" wasn't paying off as Frank S. had to throw in $300. to pay off his marker .......

    I had been mentally (no pad and pen) charting the Bellagio tables with a couple of other players when we noticed that the GTC gang of 5 had taken an empty table on the back row so we moved over to their table and bought in before they even started to toss..... each GTCer was either using the hardways or V3 and each was coming up with the same result => short rolls with a 5-2 or 6-1 Seven-out

    the 3 GTC instructors were at SL1
    ......... Frank S. tossed 1st using the V3, but quickly Sevened-Out with a 5-2 ......... these dice were so biased to the 5 & 6 that it was almost impossible to keep both 3s on axis (on the night I only saw Frank S. make 1 point as each of his rolls were very short)

    next at SL2 was the tall lanky GTC instuctor Jim Stickman ("Stickman" according to the GTC website: "Tall and lean, relaxed and contained, the Stickman has a gentle touch and strong concentration. He is a master of visualization and in the use of the "hardway" dice set.") .... he set the Hardways and had another short roll of about 4 ...... no world famous GTC instructor was being able to bet on the other GTC instructors since they were all doing a 5 count on
    each other ... their lousy shooting with the terribly Biased dice was validating the Captain's "5 count" strategy

    The dice then came to Dominator at SL3ish (according to the GTC website) :
    as GTC instructors Frank S. and Jim "Stickman" scooted back out of his way to allow him closer to the Stick, Dom set the V2 & took advantage of these "Outside" Biased dice to near perfection as he starting banging out 4s and 10s mixed in with a few 6-2 Eights ...... the Dominator hobbled his way on his broken foot to 3 Points and a 20+ roll (22 according to my charting, not 39 as Frank embellished on his website)

    I continued mentally charting the dice and watching Frank S and the rest of the GTC gang leaders have short rolls until I tongue-in-cheek, but seriously mentioned to Frank Scoblete before his next roll:
    Frank did not respond, but the Dominator let out a loud burst in disgust:
    ...... I had to chuckle a little as I knew I had just given a little Biased dice and shooting advice to the world's # 1 best selling craps author and even though they did not say it out loud, I could hear Frank S. and the Dom loudly thinking "Who the Hell is this guy giving us advise -- does he know who we are!!"

    I just smiled as the dice came to Frank S ... he set the All-7s set with the 3/4 up instead of a 6/1 up and 5/2 facing on a 4/3 axis to take advantage of the biased dice ....... his 1st toss was a 6, then he bets $60 each on the 6 & 8 and sets the V3 as he glances over towards me

    ....... Frank S. then proceeds to toss a perfect 5-2 PSO

    GTC instructor Jim Stickman passes the dice after several short rolls as he has had
    enough trying to toss ........ so Dom hobbles up to the table from his chair ....... at this point, the Dominator is determined to show me that the V2 is not the right set to use as I had suggested to Frank S. so he sets the V3 even though he had been doing well (well, better than anyone else on the table) with the V2 ..... he was determined to show me I was wrong.

    Frank S. cheers out loud:
    Quick result was a PSO - 6-1 Seven-Out using the V3 ...... at this
    point I just shook my head and said:
    Dom quickly snaps back at me as he grabbed his walking cane:
    Frank S. and the rest of the GTC instructors then colored up as each reached into their pockets to grab numerous Ben Franklins to pay off their markers.

    ..... even the "best" are still in denial ........

    .... that is simply my opinion .... Ciao, Harley

    Link for further reading:
    http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13188-2-tales-of-the-same-event-ruined-by-biased-dice/
     
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