Intro Im an AP, lets smash the casinos together!!

Richie, I have no problem with you. I think exoter has some good advice for the game, but his advice is not succinct to the game in so many spots, but he comes off as the holy grail to the game. That shit is phony as a three dollar bill. That fucking donkey only knows a little bit about it. But his ego, which we all know, can''t take a bruising, is his fallacy. The fucking prick is only good for about half of it. The rest of it you can learn from me or on your own..

 

And I'll let you take every mystery progressive your heart desires, because that isn't where I make the bulk of my money, but don't pretend like you've got all the answers on these plays where you very obviously don't know how to play that mermaid game for starters, and I've been on it for 2+ years before you ever even considered it a play.

Keep talking, though, Mickey. Keep calling me a Phony or Phony Pro, and I'll make sure to come find you in Wyoming/Montana or wherever you're playing, so I can scratch my ass all day at you making all this money. Lord knows I'll notice you long before you notice me, just like with every single AP I've ever ran into, you guys are so oblivious to your surroundings I've literally followed guys like you from a distance around a casino, just to have you walk me to every play in the building, and you never noticed me there.

 

All I did was come to that forum looking to share information. When I started correcting guys like you and IBYA, Axel, and others, you guys started throwing a shit storm at me. Problem was, none of you proved my knowledge and input wrong. You guys just ganged up on me because I wasn't a long time forum member. So be it, but don't call me a phony when you're out there pondering whether 2 tiles in the 5th column is a play, that's amateur of you Mickey.

 

I learned the "follow the hustler" trick 20 years ago. When did you learn it? Last week? Don't think you'll ever be fooling me, dude. I know a hustler when I see one just like a skunk knows another skunk when they run into each other in the woods. You'll find a few things when you get here. But you won't find it all. You are not that capable. But you talk a good game. You shouldn't have any trouble finding me though. This state is only 300 miles tall and 500 miles wide, and there are only 1700 joints for you to look through to find me. LOL!

 

This is the shit I'm talking about, Mickey. You're so fucking disrespectful to the rest of the community. You act like you know it all, like you've seen it all, and that nobody could be better than you. The reality of it is, you're a lonely 63 year old, who looks to the internet for confirmation of your prowess, by giving away plays that should be kept private. Axel and I both see eye to eye on that, not sure why you don't. The reality is, there's a lot more that goes into "hustling" than just simply knowing a play exists. Knowing how it exists is honestly more important, and knowing WHY one exists is probably equally important as knowing how, and you simply aren't intelligent enough to work through all of that. I'm not calling you dumb, stupid, or ignorant, I'm just saying you don't strike me as a guy (through your actions and reading your thoughts you write down on the forums) who thinks about the big picture.

I do, so we'll have to table this argument until I sneak up on you in Montana or Wyoming, or wherever you call home, and we'll come back here and post all about how you walked me to each and every play and never saw me in the corner of your eye. Lord knows of those 1700 joints, I can narrow it down to about 3 or 4 to find you. Hustlers are easy to track down when you know what to look for, especially when you know the manufacturer listing for each machine.

 

Two broken tiles in the 5th column is the dividing line between positive and negative. I have the stats to back it up....and I have no complaints on the money I'm making from the game. All you are doing is playing tighter than me....which costs you money in the long run.

The reason I call you a phony is not your machine play. You are not as good as me but I'm sure you are quite capable. You came on to WoV like Attila taking Rome. Explained to them all how much better you were on machines than them. You posted some information on Mystery Progressives. You play them way to tight. I was banned so couldn't jump in the threads you participated in and explain how you were way to tight. You didn't even know how to break the game down properly.

And you trolled the shit out of everybody there. Did you read your reviews in the Discussion thread after you were banned? A dozen people said good riddance. BTW, how is your copyright lawsuit against WoV going? Have they offered to settle yet? LOL!

But this is why you are phony. This is a quote from you:

"Have you ever actually spoken to another machine AP? Do you know what to look for? I pick these guys out from a mile away and always introduce myself to them, and it startles every single time, and we carry on a conversation about what we do, and I absolutely fleece these guys for all the information they'll give me because they love to tell stories about all the money they've won."

And while you were trolling WoV members about how good you were you sent me a PM asking me to teach you. I'm blocked from responding to PM's at WoV but I wouldn't have responded anyway. No to an asshole like you.

 

The same manufacturers are in all 1700 joints, ignorant ass.

 

So tell me, exoter, What's going on in Illinois? Are you going to tell me or do I have to drive there myself to find out?

 

That quote makes me a phony? How stupid do you want to look today Mickey? I absolutely track down other hustlers to pull information from them. Every single detail about every single machine in every single state they have ever seen. I have an eidetic memory, so I can recall all sorts of information at any one time, which allows me to mentally map the locations of all of these machines.

If you recall, I did NOT PM you asking for you to teach me a damned thing, I PMd you because you said your posts had you pointing out all of the plays to randoms, on a public forum, and I figured you might be wanting to EXCHANGE information between us.

I've never once asked ANYONE to teach me how to hustle a machine, that's a fucking lie and a joke Mickey. I'm sure Axel can back me up on that, because I believe it was HE that responded to my search for a few specific machines, and I didn't ask him to teach me anything, I simply offered and exchange of information back with him if he had been looking for anything. That's what I do, I compile information.

And no, I didn't read the reviews after I was banned Mickey, I was banned indefinitely and IP blocked. I'm not like an ex girlfriend who goes back to the well to digup more shit from the past, if they thought they were justified in doing so, I'm not going to go back. I made a second account to post about BBB, and to ask that my content be deleted, it was a reasonable request, and if they didn't do it, that's on them. I told Mike very specifically that I'd be pressing charges if they tried to use my content in any way to promote their site, or to monetize the writings from it, and from what I understand, they haven't.

Anything else you want to drag up to attempt to "smear" me because you are feeling inferior?

PS, quit asking me for how to play that game, Mickey, 2 tiles in the 5th column is dead wrong, and you're losing money. Ironic, though, that you think I'm playing them tight. Just more evidence to the fact that you're nothing short of a gambler now, ready to fall back on your homeless, jobless, buffalo hunting ways.

Meanwhile, you look down on Ultimate X vultures, when you came from worse stock. What a total fucking hypocrite. Lay off the hard stuff, and let me know when you're back to being a rational human being Mickey.

That clearly went so far over your head you didn't even understand what the hell I was talking about lol.

 

What's in Illinois Mickey, care to type that out on a public forum for all to see? Its what you're good at anyways, taking credit for things you didn't pioneer.

 

Exoter, I'm just dishing out to you what you have been dishing out to others in the forums. You can sure dish it out but you have a hard time taking it.

To others on this forum. Exoter is what I describe as a tight machine AP. He has to have almost a nut play before he throws down. That costs him money in the long run. I'll explain it like this:

Player A plays certain types of machines in Brand X Casino. But he only plays when it's a 20% edge.
Player B plays the same type of machines in Brand Y Casino. But he plays when its just a 10% edge.

Question: Which player will make the most money?

Answer: Many more plays at a 10% edge will develop than plays with a 20% edge. Player B will most likely get 5X as many plays as Player A, consequently will make more money.

But what if these two guys worked the same casino? Player B will get all the plays. Player A will be standing around scratching his ass most of the time but will occasionally back into a play if Player A is busy.

 

Would you please find and post the quote where I took pioneering credit for Wild Mermaids? Oh, that's right! You can't. Because I never did it.

Folks, it looks like we now have another member who uses strawman arguments.

 

Tight Machine AP? Some of the plays you're talking about aren't being played at ANY edge, Mickey. I realize you know very little about the Mermaid game, and the 2 or 3 other themed variants just like it, and you have probably less than 500 plays on it all together, and that's probably very generous for where you play, you likely have less than 100-200 lifetime plays on them, but I don't. I have THOUSANDS on that game and specifically on two other thematic variants of the game that play and pay the exact same way. You even go on in your thread to talk about what you've noticed to be a "design variant" of your game that doesn't exist outside of your state, making it an even worse game than the one I play at a significantly higher payback% and you call me tight Mickey?

No, I just don't gamble. I recognize when I have an advantage, even a 1% advantage, and I take every opportunity I have at those shots. But I know when a play is on the borderline, and that's what you describe here, and I won't take the shot on a borderline play. Shit, even some of the numbers I talked about in respect to mystery progressives are borderline, and you chimed in quoting shacklkeford's analysis of them using the numbers he posted, and I very clearly explained why SOME of them were wrong, and significantly lower than they should be, which is what casued the riff with me on the forums.

HOW DARE SOMEBODY CORRECT THE WIZARD, right?

Well, I did, and I showed why it was wrong information. Draws up memories now, where you first started attacking me for being "tight", but here I am a career winner. I go hundreds and hundreds of days before I see a losing day, Mickey, I know you can't say the same unless you went back to buffalo hunting.

Where did I claim you were taking credit for Mermaid? Also, please stop referring to it as its specific title, you're spitting in all of the real AP's faces by mentioning its name.

You asked me about Illinois, and I have no idea what you're talking about. Might want to lead with that next.

 

I haven't had a losing day in 9 years.

 

Folks, exiter made several posts on WoV explaining mystery progressives. Now the asshole is jamming me up about exposing Wild Mermaids. Thats why I call him phony.

So lets really piss hin off. The two variants of WM he alluded to--one of them is called Jungle Riches-- the other I only seen one time. Its called Egypt something?

 

That's an absolute lie and you know it lol.

I can't be a "tight" player and admit to having a losing day once in a while, with you being the "loose" one and never losing, it just doesn't work that way Mickey.

Lord almighty Mickey, you're so feisty for an old codger.

There's also another, have you seen it yet?

All you're doing is cutting off your nose to spite your face, Mickey.

 

Honest truth. I haven't had a losing day in 9 years. For several years I averaged $570 a day. Conditions have recently changed and it is down to about $300 a day. But in time the daily average will go back up.

You are probably not aware that I put up a $10,000 bet when conditions were good that I could take a $2000 bankroll at 8 AM
and turn it into $2500 before midnight. I issued this challenge to Rob Singer any day he wanted to make it.

The only reason I would make a bet like that is I knew Singer had no chance to win. He chickened out. He's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.

 

There's no possible, no conceivable way that you can call me a "tight" player, playing some of the shit you talk about long before I would, and claim to have never lost in 9 years.

Get out of here Mickey, now I know you're off your rocker. You don't have enough action up there to play some of this stuff as early as you claim, and walk out of it without ever losing. Shit, you're doing it in a state that doesn't mandate ANY %payback to those indian casinos, and only requires a state minimum 80%. Meanwhile, I basically only play 89% or better states, and do the plays later than you would.

If anything its ME that should have the 9 year streak, but at least we can settle this score once and for all right now. You being the "looser gambler" not having lost in 9 years, are full of shit.

I'm done responding to you old codger, I knew I had the wrong read on you from the start. You just like posting all the plays to "prove it" to others that you still know a thing or two, and you don't care about killing the plays for others because you don't get out and work them.

You're an asshole is what you are.

 

I'll telk you what, idiot. I'll let you have all the Indian casinos here. You'll starve to death in those Class II motherfuckers.

BTW, most of the edges I work are 20% up to 5800%. The 10% edges are backburner plays that I never seem to get to. But in a competitive market I would have to play them off to get rid of the competition.

Now fuck off and die, bitch.

 

Apparently you don't if you're running "Tiles" (as they are called in our industry Mickey) at 2 in the 5th column, that's a negative %, and what you fail to understand is that you're playing it at a much lower payback % than I am to start with, you're losing 9% minimum to where I play them, minimum.

Point is, if anybody is the phony, Mickey, its you in the "present" day. You may have been quick to the hustles of the mid 90's, but you've been left int he dusty while you were piggy bankin and S&H Green stamping. Hell, you probably didn't even Indiana Jones.

I've now gone from wanting to meet you, to wanting to outhustle you at your own location. Problem is, your location doesn't have enough action to survive in. Like Philly Pete said, "Mickey must have found something up there in the mountains, but it sure as shit wasn't a play".

It would seem as if your reputation precedes you, even to my mentor.