Roulette What if I told you...

Good. The streaker has been running round the pitch for a week now

The novelty soon wears off

 

I started the other thread just to respect your thread by getting out of the way. I let him into my school and am waiting for that result. I waiting here for more than if you work hard for it you will find it. It's a progression based on math that beats roulette. That would be a scientific breakthrough. I personally believe that nobody can beat the sequences that kill progressions unless they can successfully target when to place bets. But you are suggesting that's not necessary. So I'm interested, if this isn't an April Fool's joke. Perhaps you are just leading people on for their contributions to the election.

 

I humbly apologize, for some reason I got you mixed up with gizmotron I think it has something to do with the robot avatar and whatever the hell his is.I guess Roulette players all look and sound the same. But that's ok, because as I said before, "Roulette Players lives matter."

 

Hey Axel, what are you smoking? Do you really do crack?

Why not some more spew about police scanners, slot machine sounds, masked phone numbers, duplicate internet accounts, portraying as an X-Dealer???? You are fucking whacko pal!!!

Let me know, someone forwarded me a pic of you bent over with a black thug going up in your asshole without a condom!!! Seriously thought you subscribed to the school of safe sex!!! LOL, big time!

Go ahead and tell everyone here how you fought for LGBT and you protest those commercial establishments that don't allow all gender and transsexuals to use the restroom of their choice! Remember the conversations???

You are a real work of art.

The only question for you is, do you douche your ass after you allow the niggers to orgasm inside of you or do you sit there and squat trying to get the sperm out of your asshole???

 

That might make me sad coming from anyone that I or anyone else had a shred of respect for. But this is coming from a known baccarat loser who uses monkey voodoo, someone who's a persistent sockpuppet, an extreme compulsive liar and a fake, a bet welsher, a stalker, a phone harasser who advertised on WOV for a homosexual encounter at a gay bar. It's all documented on WOV for everyone to see.

You helped run off one of the forums most like members AOS. He actually was seriously concerned about his safety. You tried to manipulate forum members and played some sick twisted games. Everyone watched it unfold, it was kinda pathetic, sad and scary for some all at the same time.

Say your piece, I'll say mine and then we can avoid each other.

 

Fucking comical! Love it. Go millionaire, go with your team of MIT 21 Players and deep pocket your multi millions of win money! LOL! Best laugh I had for sometime. People scared of each other on the internet, OMG!

You can't even tell the difference between a little humor in writing and being serious. Yes Monkey Voodoo! That is why I seriously (no joke---no pun) have a little 24k monkey that does get pulled out and placed on the wager when I need a monkey to win. Never lost---NOT 1 TIME! There, how about that!

 

RPLM, power to the people!

 

Apology accepted, AxelWolf.

Just this morning I had a card player crying on my shoulder after losing his buy in a few times over in an allnighter at the casino.

He was pleading with me to give him some roulette tuition and I thought, you poor sod. Suck it up loser.

But then I thought, maybe I should help this guy a bit, 'cause "Card players lives matter."

 

Glad to know you didn't lose the one time you actually used it. I'll retract the voodoo remark. I do believe I had stated before that I didn't think you really believed in the monkey shit.

Carry on my friend.

 

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I'm not sure how much discussion I plan to have on this - aside from what I posted.

Does that mean you would prefer if we never bothered to acknowledge any interest in your disclosure in the first place?

I've said it before though - There are things we "know" will happen, which wouldn't be possible
if this were not a random game.


Perhaps you could explain further, with simple examples of something we should “know” will happen in a random game?


The fact that it's random allows us to use math to win (every time).

That sounds nice.

The argument can be made "What if you only play 1 spin per visit" and then of course you would not
win.

Why would someone who plays 1 spin per visit not be able to win?


My progression comment was because that's what it takes. (progressions happen over time).
There are a few things we've been told are "bad" and "won't work" which is not true.

Everything happens over time, so you’re not telling us much there. Perhaps you could explain further, with simple examples of something we've been told that’s "bad" and "won't work"?


Chasing a loss or draw down by betting more and more is always a bad idea.

It’s only a bad idea when the crunch comes, but the crunch can be all consuming.


If you knew with 100% accuracy that you would win though - a progression makes total sense.

Actually in the raw sentence, it doesn’t make total sense, because you haven’t defined your level of accuracy other than a 100% catchall. I could know I will win on every single wager, or I could know I will win once in every 34 spins betting a single number, or I could know I will win at whatever rate flat betting, or I could know I will win betting a particular cycle using any number of devised progressions.


In the simplest sense, perhaps you are referring hypothetically to playing a simple martingale and your unquestionable knowledge against the house limit?


Putting more and more money on a "winning" number doesn't mean it will stay a winning number
(hence you lose as well).

In the system sense, why would anyone do that, and for how long?


Progressions though are NOT the enemy. Only when used wrong as most people do.
Perhaps threads like this will motivate people to think in other ways instead of a 'term' being thrown
into a junk heap and then never thought of again.

There are NO enemies in roulette. The sooner everyone grasps that the better.


There are 38 possible outcomes and the house pays 35 to 1 on a win.
The "reality" of this is that a progression is needed (to combat the house edge) (when used properly).

Ok, we need a progression to overcome the unfair payouts. Geez mate, thanks for the heads up.


So you are saying that any progression used correctly will reverse the casino’s unfair advantage, but if you use the same progression incorrectly you will lose? Or are you saying that progressions need to be custom tailored to be used correctly with any chosen bet selection?


Or are you implying that both bet selection and progression need to be specifically, and perfectly aligned in order to overcome the unfair/mathematically unbeatable nature of roulette?


I ran off more spins but as I said - you can do this all day, every day and it will never fail.
The fact that the game is random prevents it from being able to lose.

Really? Is it the game being random, or your disciplined approach that “prevents it from being able to lose."

 

Of course not - it means just what I said. I don't plan to give step-by-step instructions on how something is done. Anyone though can take in what I've said and explore it themselves and see the same things. There's nothing revealed to me that isn't revealed to everyone else as well.

I mentioned in the other thread about making a list of things we know will happen vs things that won't happen. There's no reason for me to make a list for people when they can do it themselves.
Starters ?
38 separate numbers won't appear in 38 spins. One number won't repeat 38 times in a row.
You can even make a "rare" column - things that are rare but can happen, which would of course be some middle ground between the two other columns..
12 streets won't appear in 12 spins for example. It is rare but it can happen.

It is just fact. This is a math game with the edge in the casino's favor thanks to the payout for a win being less than the odds of winning any individual spin/bet. Math can work around this, it is not set-in-stone 1+1=2... more like 1+A=2 where "A" could be various answers. You can have the same result but the path to get there can benefit the player when it based on "what is likely to happen" vs "what isn't"

Because of the house advantage on any one spin. I could take the same horse and have him run 20 races - if he wins 11 races then he will be the overall winner of the set of 20 and I win. I can't though say that he will win each individual race as he will obviously lose 9 of them in my example. I can win overall, over multiple spins but anyone trying to work any system regardless to what it is - based on 1 single spin - will fail at times. They could win "long term" - my comment was that they could not win playing 1 spin each and every time.

You only need to know that it is possible to win at a better rate than the house's advantage, therefore the edge is in your favor - based on math. Once you know this - a progression is the most logical way to increase your winnings at a much faster pace than playing the same amounts and winning over a extended period of time.

Sarcasm noted. Look around though. Many people believe that it only takes the right method and they can flat bet and win over long-term. If you do nothing that changes the 1:38 vs 35:1 then flat betting will only result in a loss to the house edge over time.

Once you have an advantage or know that you are going to win in "X" range of spins - you can safely use a progression. You can also use a progression to speed up your overall bankroll balance the longer that you play by increasing bet size and aggressiveness of the progression. If you have no advantage - then you are only boosting the house's take by giving them more and more as your bankroll drops in relation to the progression you use.

 

Sorry - was interrupted :

It is the game being random - but of course you have to understand how random works before anyone can understand how to exploit it's predictability.
A pick-6 style lottery where a number is eliminated as each new one is drawn is a different situation to roulette where each number can appear with equal chances each time the wheel spins. So what works with roulette's "random" won't necessarily work with a lottery's "random". As I said before, if roulette was played that way - it would be impossible to beat. Each spin would result in less numbers - the house edge would always be ahead of the payout and eventually you would get to 1 spin remaining with 50/50 chances, I'm sure the house would pay .90 to 1 on it. lol.
But since this type of random leaves each number in play - it can become incredibly predictable if you know what you're looking for (and that - I have explained in other threads)

 

I have a desk drawer full of notes and scribbles - I would suggest looking at spins and taking note of as much info as you can, chart the results, graph it if needed - you'll see patterns that are by no means 100% accurate (hence a progression) and you can "easily" exploit this. This is what I have been preaching for a long time now in various threads and posts - you may have to do it yourself more than you have in order to see it play out.
You can also ignore this thread if you think the game is unbeatable - no math can beat it - progressions lead to failure - Turbo is nuts and knows nothing - etc etc.
All I can do it point people in the right direction Bombus - with no benefit in it for me, I sell nothing - and never have. I never force my findings on anyone and I don't need those like Exoter to "verify" my results in order to prove my claims. (Where did he go by the way). That's why I said that "I'm not sure how much discussion I plan to have on this - aside from what I posted." because what some people see as a useless riddle - others see it as a chance to learn something.
Thanks for the reply and bringing the thread back on track.

 

TG, I would really be interested in how you relate to randomness. I'm sure it's different than me. I have an idea of what things are very rare and things that happen so very often.

Here is the way I think: http://betselection.cc/meta-selection/the-simple-explanation-attacking-trends/

"On every spin I check to see if a new characteristic is forming or that any existing ones are changing. So I scan the chart. I can see a characteristic in approximately one third of a second.

Look for sleepers in the dozens and columns.
Look for singles, then doubles, triples, and larger in the dozens and columns.
Look for global effects for all this.
Look for perfect and almost perfect patterns in the dozens and columns.
Look for a perfect or almost perfect dominance in the dozens and columns.
Look for dominance in all of the even chance bets.
Look for sequences of singles, doubles, and triples and above in the even chance bets.
Look for perfect patterns in the even chance bets.
Look for sleeping zeros and wide awake zeros.
Look for any active attack bet ending.
Evaluate the effectiveness of the current state.
Repeat this process after every spin and before every bet."

 

Here's a though, "asshole", perhaps if you provided us with a shred of detail about your "system", or the supposed math you've done to validate it and "prove it" we would believe you, but I've seen nothing, been pointed to nothing, and for all intents and purposes, the only validation on this forum is you saying "I've proven it, and so it must be", and I don't accept that.

Show me the supposed proof, or the math behind it, or the system itself. If you can't do that, you're just trolling.

And don't get on this "golden goose" tirade again, you know damned well I'm willing to set you up for a lifetime if your golden goose can even lay an egg of Bronze.

I'll be honest, its going to take a bit before I can crunch it all, I usually only have a day or two a week to myself where I'm not on the road working casinos, and usually those days are filled with chores lol. Having said that, I'm still trying to digest your info and kind of formulate your strategy side by side to the one you use, so that I can see where your mind is looking for hints. It does, however, seem like you're simply using a prediction method based on localized data. While certainly pertinent, I'm not sure it could be easily represented with a mathematics problem that could output a clear "advantage".

I do, however, see some genius that you're not tapping into for the sake of comp hustling, and setting up ADT's. I'll leave that to an analysis post later.

 

I don't need your help with that - but thanks for the offer. Perhaps that approach works with some people - just not with me.

 

Tell us more please. This is most certainly the most interesting topic in the whole forum.

 

My instincts are correct. I shut down your access to my school. You have a full cup mentality. I must have spent the past ten years proving what I do has nothing to do with prediction. I'm an expert at taking advantage of coincidence. Anyone can target win streaks and back out of losing streaks without the need to read the future. You can't beat a math negative game with mathematics. You must use something else. When that works you can try to explain it using mathematics. That's a pointless endeavor though. I'm a skilled craftsman in probing for opportunities without getting killed. I have my own reason for showing everyone how it's done. That reason defies common sense. It's the same mentality as the mountain climber wanting to bag a first accent.

Just because I don't talk about comps like free rooms, meals, concerts, and cash does not mean that I don't take them and use them. Keeping a casino hungry for me to come back while taking their money is not that hard to figure out. That's exactly why I don't just go to one casino.

 

Its not an offer, Turbo. You claim to have a way to beat Roulette, I want the proof behind it. Simple as that. If you don't want to teach it, don't, but you sure as shit can find a way to validate your claims other than "I did the numbers myself", I already gave you a universally trusted individual across just about all sites that would do the mathematics for you and get back to this community with a simple "Yes, he can beat it" or "No, he cannot beat it" response.

You're balking, backpedaling, trolling, and your colors are showing through.

You shut down my access because of an early critique of your lack of supplying mathematics, proof, or systemic information suggesting you could actually beat the game?

That's fair, and again, there's some genius to your work, you're just not applying it. I read every comment, every word, and every letter that you wrote, and began to write my own application of your strategy, I don't require your access any longer for the mathematical benefit, but I was planning on leaving you something a little more "groundbreaking" to work on. Without that access I can't leave it behind, so you'll have to email me again so I can give it to you there, I won't post it here unless you want me to. Its still your source material, I'll respect a copyright on that, though I legally wouldn't have to.

I'm not here to shit all over you and trash your system, Gizmo, you expressed interest in my response to your access, I gave you a little early insight and your reaction was to shut me down because you didn't like my response. You're being a bit too protective of that, in fact its a bit suspect.