Roulette What if I told you...

uh, big guy, this ain't the ap roulette section. i think you're in the wrong building. awkward...

 

I totaly not understand why someone must prove to someone something. Who is that other, that someone must prove all to that person?
I am glad if some system/method works well for developer and I am even more glad if he can win some money with it, and on the end it is brilliant if developer is open to share all with others, and not sell as many try to do.
Who cares if a method works 100% or 10% or 1% or even lose, we know that play depends from player decisions/mistakes or conditions on a table and every table has own conditions and they are variable all the time, so on the end profit depends from a player and not from a method/system.
In last decade I never understood why people always attacked TG every time after he revealed a new system. He never wanted any money for that and he was ALWAYS honest with his answers. He NEVER was a system seller, so he never cheat someone, but if players used his systems and lost with it/them, then that was because of bad players decisions that he did not recognize bad conditions on a table or even played on a bad tables. It is that simple. We lose because of our decisions and not because of systems/methods/casinos.

So on the end it is illusion to expect that EVERYONE will win with TG's new system, because we never play on same table as TG and we all do mistakes in decisions.

TG is honest man, same as Caleb !

 

Gizmo, you're getting super defensive over this. Now you're saying I don't have money? That's a joke. Would you like a picture of my personal safe? lol.

Listen, guy, simply posting a graph, that anybody can make for any reason, doesn't "prove" anything works. I can make you a graph showing I win 1 out of every 8 spins in a playall that looks pretty, but at the end of the day, its fake. Like your graph, like your system, and like your sense of authority on the matter.

You've played two sides of the fence the entire time, and you're quoting me as if my stance has ever changed? YOU, sir, can't beat the game because your "strategy" can't negate the house edge. You claim you can, but you can't. I've offered you everything a man could, to support your claim. A bankroll, proceeds from my guys if it could make $40/hr+, I've even acquiesced to your "worry" about giving away the golden goose, by saying you don't have to give me the goose, just show me consistent live play, where you make money day after day, and I'll foot the bill for your expenses. A free vacation, Turbo.

You've declined all of them, not because you are scared of giving it away, but because you're scared of being exposed for a fraud. Similar to how Gizmo's getting all sorts of wound up over this now. His system doesn't work, either.

The awkward part is that there are 3 topics there, by two people. One, who is the OP of this thread, and the other who posts on Gizmo's "school". Now that, is awkward.

If the population of that forum isn't proof enough that it can't be beaten..........lol.

Its dishonest to say you can beat it, and not prove it for others to see. He'd be the first, EVER to beat it.

 

1.) You are the one acting defensive, just in case you care to look. I put you there. -- no, I don't want to see your piggy bank.

2.) Turbo gave it away. You are either too lazy or too ignorant to figure it out. My material at the school is included on over 400 posts and four versions of my software to assist with learning it. I watched for your presence at the school and it showed that you spent less than 12 hours there. And that was on a smart phone or tablet. You admittedly never downloaded my education software. And this is a first. You are the only person in six years and 28 people that have been shown it and that has said it does not work. Your integrity is less than suspect. BTW, I let you in for free. I'm the one that went all the way to showing you something that others are using. Turbo went all the way and showed you something very interesting too. It does not get any better than this in the world of gambling forums.

3.) It's not that awkward. I did the work to figure out what Turbo had suggested. I only brought up my school as an example that people do share information that works sometimes. I admittedly did not get what Turbo was saying at first. But I made the second effort after so much was said in this thread about my stuff. I even split off our conversation but you brought it back here. And it's here that we are talking about it again in case you can't see that.

4.) I opened the school as a convenience for those that wanted to be brought through it without having to search the other forum at BS for it. Once it was paid for I decided to drop the price to the price of a good gambling book. That's where it is right now. It's hardly a rip off at this point. 17 people have taken me up on this method of learning at the school. The school opened up two months ago. The only place the school has been mentioned is at BS.cc and here. I've deliberately kept it tight and to a small aspect of the gambling community. I'm very pleased with the small numbers too. I'm also very pleased with the artificial intelligence software that I developed to back it up.

Perhaps it is just sour grapes on your part that I ejected you from the school. Certainly, being the expert that you are, you can take a disappointment in the world of gambling?

 

Come on Exoter, why do you need a proof from TG ??

He does not sell anything, so he does not need to prove anything to anyone!!

And after all IF he is a winner it is not a guarantee that everyone else will be a winner too !!!

And if I remember well, you are slot player so I doubt that you have so much knowledge as TG has, so maybe you have no chances to be winner on a roulette tables too ;-)

 

Because in your mind - "You know everything" ?
I don't understand your reasoning. People have done things and not mentioned it at all.
People have invented things as well and never once felt the need to expose it to the world.
But because "you" don't understand something - it's all a lie and you continue to show how ignorant
you are to it - by not even accepting that something is possible.
No one can change that for you though - not even if I gave you that amazing proof that you want so badly.

Again, you're confused. What kind of people do you typically deal with in life ? Or are "you" the one on a high horse as you seem to think I am ?
I don't NEED your bankroll - I don't NEED you team's proceeds (what sense does that make ?). 40.00/hr ???
Is that some amazing amount of money in your book ? lol.
I don't understand why you make offers when I'm selling nothing. If you think that will get you your proof - keep your money and tell your team to go home and relax. You can read what I've posted and find it yourself.

 

Damn, and I wasn't even going to post this one.

 

That was using the 5/25/100 progression. I wouldn't suggest anyone do that though. Sticking with 1/5 or 5/25 is easier to handle. For the feint of heart you could use 1/2/3/4/5 etc also.

 

TG the last couple of graphs show that you havent bet the first few numbers. Are you charting numbers/waiting for a pattern to form before starting to bet? as i thought(maybe wrongly) you use to bet as soon as you sat at the table?

 

I was about to type exactly this question

why the flat-lines if you bet on arrival?

 

As much as I like TG, unfortunately posting graphs on an open forum with no explanation seems to me as a bit of bragging.

Gizmotron writing novels and short stories as responses goes nowhere

But hey. Im a simple bloke. Explain your strategies.

 

If you read the graph, with what he has shared, you have the whole story. I won't tell you what it says because this is the way that TG wants the story told. It's funny, you have to figure it out. Are you a Special Snowflake and need special treatment?

 

That's nonsense and you know it.
There are two ways to look at everything RG -
Imagine you're driving down the road and a stretch limo passes you slowly with some absurdly rich guy smiling away in the back seat sipping on some wine that probably costs more than a year's salary for the average Joe.
You have two options -
A) Strive to make your life better, work hard to get to that same position if that's what you really want.
or
B) Act like he is bragging and hate that bastard too for flaunting what he has while doing nothing about your own situation.

"A" is always the better option - but "B" is so much easier isn't it.
By posting results - it's not bragging at all. By not posting details and "step by step" - it's not deception or bad intentions. It just means that things are possible and you should see that as a good thing.
It "should" be motivational - unless you don't want to go any further than seeing it as a negative thing.
You can see Exoter above doing just that - It's all LIES ! It's not possible !.
So much easier to look at everything that way. It gets you nowhere but in the end you don't even care - because dammit you're right. Shrugs. I can't help anyone who thinks like that.
There won't be any more graphs until the last week of Dec. I don't plan to play again until then (in PA this time across the bridge). And then sometime in late Jan back in AC. I know enough to not draw attention when it's not needed.

 

TG nice win. Congratulation! Would you bee so kind to share the spin sequence?
Thx

 

I know this isnt or hope it isnt aimed at me but just slightly confused as was always under the impression that the betting started immediately you got to the table/first number to appear? or is this incorrect?

 

It was aimed at RG. The method, progression can be used any way you wish. It has several demonstrations with different beginnings.

 

Exactly true. You can sit and play from spin 1 or wait, stop and start whenever you want.
The flat lines at the beginning are just spins I recorded that I witnessed before playing, it doesn't mean I sat and waited for some event to happen.
I don't go against anything that I've said in the past - such as "Past spins mean nothing" because they don't. Every spin from when I start to finish are all that I care about and use.

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Wow, you have the graph and you have the actual spins. There is no excuse for not figuring this out.

 

TG – thought id post here as it seems the most active!
I wonder is it the first 37 cycle or the second 37 cycle thats the most interesting/useful?
Been playing with the stats for a while and as much as I like the the 3's in the first, it seems surfing the wave 3's and hotter in the second 37 is key.

 

Gizmotron2 i dont mean this bad but youre coming across a little like the dude from the santana gang featured in ponderland (Russel Brand)

Hopefully youre right but i fear there is always an excuse!
Dont take this personally like RG! its the internet,its friday night and this is how we do it!
Good luck and i'll have at look at these spins when im sober.