Roulette What if I told you...

Well I see the benefits of both flat bet and managed progression (following the same repeater play as we're talking about). I recently looked into narrowing the selection down to 2-3 to facilitate a flat approach. I read that being your preference elsewhere Ken.
I was quite surprised I'd never seen this pattern before, but it seems that there was something there in 'hotter' numbers that occurred more often than not. But only within a certain 'range'. And more often than not is whats required for the flat bets.
I've not played it out much yet and ran many more tests, but still. It was interesting to see it happening.

 

BINGO, this is the key.

Ken

 

If your playing the usual martingale progs then yes. But you shouldn't be?

 

Ha! I thought you might understand what I was trying to say, without actually saying it!?!

 

This topic is about the completely expected occurrence of events. I put out the notion of the most unlikely sequence of events as being the only thing that could break a progression years ago. Anything else would win. Ken may know or not that my start into randomness was the three hottest numbers. But that was always flat betting only. I was good at it. I wrote hundreds of computer sims just on that topic. All this was done before I started posting extensively at GG in 2006. Now, because of this thread, I'm researching one hot number and a progression to back it up. If that works I can mess around with three numbers included but independent. You can expect the hottest number to do certain things. I wrote a sim this morning that shows how far it takes to get every number to hit at least once. That's a knowledge that you can count on too. It takes 85 to 320 spins for all the numbers to hit. Very rarely does it work outside of these ranges. But who cares about the stats on the typical coldest number? I'm looking for the stats on the hottest number. These expectations can lead to a workable speculation.

 

Damn, it's 2017 and still there are people who think progressions work or can alter the house edge. ;(

 

Actually I have devised a method where a few positive parlays work very good. They just won't act like an ATM machine just because you walked up and expected it. You have to search for likely times that it will work. Any skilled person can do it.

 

Nothing alters the house edge.
We play in these games in the short term. Not over thousands and millions of spins a session where the house edge manifests itself everytime. If 9 times out of 10 we know what to expect in the results, then flat or progression can win. (imo)

 

I agree with this (3) but as I have said before, for how long to bet and when to drop a number and add a new number (while never going over 3) is the *KEY* along with, defining what HOT means exactly? I feel I have it but thats my opinion of course. I could be wrong, I could be right.

>> A smart man invented the hamburger. A smarter man invented the cheese burger << Figure that shit out.

Ken

 

I think that I was whisked away by the double dozens and that thing. But every time I gamble there are one, two, or three very hot numbers. The sims allowed me to get to know how these numbers act. I just never thought to go after them with a progression. That's why I wanted to see how long you could wait on the worst number occurring. I will have to build a single number AI app to test averages. It will select the hottest number from many sets of past spins data. At a table about all I can stand is 300 spins. If I can move to the best hot number for a single number then I know I can go with three numbers. You can't know if you are in a session with an incredible number that hits twice or three times as much as it should. I have never seen the best number win only 9 times in 300 spins. A bad session it always hits at least 12 times. A great number will hit more than 24 times in 300 spins. That's like a gold mine. You just have to know what is what.

 

A short story.....so the other day, I was betting on the 3 hottest numbers. They happen to be the 15 20 & 22 (00 wheel).

I got some nice hits off them (no complaints) and what I love the most, they are close to each other on the wheel. Of course I have no control over this. Anyways, it was now shift change. I HATE HATE HATE a new dealer when things are going well.

I could of quit but decided to play on, just to "see" what happens. In the next/first 8 spins, the guy hits a 15 and FOUR 22's !!! My point (or confusion, lol) if its hot at the present moment, I guess dealer change does not matter(?) Dont get me wrong, I still HATE dealer change (lol).

Another smaller example.....the dealer hits a 35. Its now dealer change, the very first number.....another 35. I know this doesn't mean much but its the little things I tend to notice.

Ken

 

The human mind loves to see a pattern. And make sense of it.

 

If you are Martingaleing a -5% game you won't have to worry for too long about the long run, It will show up rather fast.

 

Ken, I learned to ignore the dealer change a very long time ago. The wheel is a very good RNG. It has no effect on the hot numbers. It's just coincidence that makes randomness what it is.

 

You're right. Playing 10 sessions a day of 10 spins each for 100 days is much different than one big 10,000 spin session.

Your first sentence and what you're insinuating in the rest of your post don't agree.

 

What do you tell the player who won 8 times in 76 spins about the "house edge" -
that it will "get you next time !" ?

What if they do the same thing that they do next time and get the same results ?
The "house edge" is all numbers on the tables - all players at the casino.. they don't care about
how much or where people play, they don't have to. They pay out 35:1 with 38:1 odds of winning.
If I don't lose money on numbers that don't show up - their math is completely thrown off.

I just ran 10,000 rng spins.
A player flat betting on #19 had 309 wins (+2.86 STD) and ended with $100.00 chips
at +$112,400.00
What do you tell them about the house edge and how they can't possible have won ?
The total of all players comes out to the house edge and the casino won of course - tell that
to the person who played #19.

Now - how do you make yourself that person who played #19 and do what they did for the next 10,000 spins ? You're going to have to work that out - and it's not that hard.

 

They ended with $100 chips? So did they start with $100 chips. I'm a little caught up in the communication here. Is that flat betting?

 

That person just flat bet $100.00 per spin

 

Turbo; would a player, who played #19 in those 10k RNG spins test, have to play all 10k spins (without of breaks) to win 309x ?

 

Nope - they could play a large group of small sessions over time - but they would have played other numbers each time I'm sure. The math stays the same.