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Roulette What if I told you...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Jefra

    Jefra Member

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    I more thought only on one player who would play only on #19.
     
  2. Fossell

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    Pedantics and a moot point. Im saying I'm not going to test the shit out of something for millions of spins and see that it loses 2-5% and think oh that doesn't work back to the drawing board. If it profits more than not all along the way in real time then really the house edge becomes irrelevant.
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    On a live wheel, the dealer change can matter. That was a mistake.

    You're naive. Please don't try to tell us that several short sessions aren't the same as one long session. The house edge quickly becomes the most dominant factor and it is the reason that you will lose over time. For example on the outside ECs, the house edge dominates variance after only 10k spins on the double zero wheel. And if you want the house edge to dominate your game even faster then bet more numbers. Try betting every number on the wheel and you'll see the long term effects in just one spin.
     
  4. Fossell

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    You don't know me so lets not get personal. Call a view naive. Not the person. And I think you interpreting what Im saying in the wrong way. Im not suggesting the house edge isn't there and doesn't show itself over thousands of spins. And I don't play 00 btw. Im well aware of the house edge and how it can be shown.
    If I regularly make 10% on my bankroll, then why should I care about the house edge. Its a theoretical banking expense.
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You haven't been playing for very long.

    Also, why only 10%?
     
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    You shouldn't care, you should be out playing. You should have no problem making 6k per day without getting banned (you will have to travel once you get to the higher levels). within 45 days and a measly 1k starting bankroll you should have more than enough to make 6k per day. You'll have over a million dollars within a year after taxes.
     
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  7. Fossell

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    Long enough actually, not that thats got anything to do with it.
    Its an example. Take 10% and compound it over 50 sessions. For example.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It is a mistake to you but not for me. My expertise in randomness is from thriving on change. I assure you that you really need to evaluate how often the dealer change causes a randomness change while you are reading randomness. It does exactly what you know I call the effectiveness state conditions. I have always thought that you of all people should know the difference between coincidence in randomness and wheel bias.
     
  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    The difference between us is you play around on paper, as a part time hobby. I'm a professional. I own wheels, and even know how to work on and repair them. I also have one of the largest archives of live data in the world. Millions of spins.

    A dealer change can make a hell of a difference on the physics. Ball used, wheel speed...it has an effect on the physics of a biased wheel. (By the way, every wheel is biased to some degree.) Lastly, don't tell us that you rely on exploiting random, or "reading random" as that will make you a walking talking oxymoron.
     
  10. gizmotron

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    I get it fuckhead. Your shit does not stink and you admittedly have no clue of my world of roulette and randomness. What strikes me about the bolstering of your pride is that you didn't see anything I tried to show you. You can shove one of those wheels up your ass sideways dumb shit.
     
  11. RS

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    That's $117,390 ending bankroll if you started with $1,000. I've got a small hunch you haven't done this.

    Looks like gizmotron is triggered. Damn he mad.
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    So the math changes based on which teacher is teaching the class ?
    No. Random stays random.
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    Good Point. The math changes as soon as the dealer changes. Now that is a real inconvenient truth.
     
  14. Jefra

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    jan_17_2017- t3n_ 237no.
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  15. Jefra

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    forget, because numbers did not come correct through
     
  16. gizmotron

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    Does this help?

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  17. Jefra

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    No Gizmo, numbers go down: 33, 19, 9,... (I had them written in cycles by 37 numbers and in red/black colours, for easier tracking). In RF.cc went better through.
     
  18. gizmotron

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    Try posting them as code or try changing the font to courier new.
     
  19. Jefra

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    I think it would not help. I also saved spins as jpg, BUT we cannot anymore upload pictures or other files from PC. Maybe administrator does not want to watch Turbo's newer graphs ;-) anymore.
     
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  20. Fossell

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    If its top to bottom try this. Whats it for anyway?

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