Roulette A Challenge 2 - for Turbo M

nah

you have been saying this for years

let me help you

AP players do this. not everyone

you are like a bad fungus that keeps coming back

 

I'm just too kind. They say my heart is three sizes too big.

 

Ive been working on different methods. My most succesful and recent so far is a 1 - 4 numbers bet. I dont know how to test long term but my results playing for real money 18 times so far are
+32 +35 +60 +59 +632 +24 +252 +54 +50 +27 +154 +37 +29 +48 +68 +31 +29 +218
My shorest game was 1 spin and i won 35 units.
My longest was 113 spins and i ended up winning 154 units this also had my biggest drawdown at -165. I was also spliting this over two cycles of 70 spins which i was planning on always doing but then by mistake the last game (+218) i miscounted and won on spin 72 which meant a bigger win so im going to look at if splitting into cycles is worth it?

 

Hey, Armitage Shanks, I'm just curious about your +632 win...what happened there (extra long session, quick hits?) really nice roll of 1,800 units!

Let me know if you need any help testing as I'm pretty good with data (excel, rx, r) and I think you might be going down the same rabbit hole I am.

 

No it was 60 odd spins but had a number hit 3 times in a row! always nice to be on that. Also realised a small error in that my shortest game got me +34 not +35
I'll let you know regards testing and appreciate the offer, just working on some finer details(to cycle or not being one) and will post how its going after another 10 or so. ive had other methods with similar results at first so waiting for it to start losing but enjoying it while it lasts! It started as a one number bet but after trying different amounts up to four seems to work the best so far.

 

Hi Armitage

Nice wins!!
Regards long term testings; it looks now that Turbo did not tell us all or said on the way that hints confused us .
If you will read his last posts here, you will see that he does not play the hottest numbers all the time. Fact is that he does not want to reveal ALL details OR maybe he still works on his method and modifies it often

 

Has anyone here got any reply on EMAIL from Turbo in last two months???

 

I believe Turbo is not the real Tubogenius from GG.
The old Turbogenius disappeared from roulette forums many years ago - he got tired by roulette and quit.

 

Wow Turbo's method works!

Spin 1 to Spin 200. Looks like it works great! 7.65% edge, won 358!

 

Until it doesn't!

Spins 201 to 16219.



Over the next 16019 spins, the system lost big. 12,288!

 

The reason some of you believe the system works is because you're not testing a relevant number of spins. I even demonstrated the system on a biased wheel. Even then, it just wasn't enough. Off and on, the system will even show a profit for a few thousand or more spins at a time before tanking. Once you get into larger samples of 20, 30k spins the system becomes a consistent loser.

In order for the system to work, the betting horizon needs to be more stringent, the wheel needs to be biased, and the playing conditions like wheel speed and spin direction have to be noted. Again, the money is won by exploiting the wheel, not the random game.

On the wheel tested, a more effective betting strategy would have been to simply bet the last one to five numbers to have hit.

 

A more effective way of utilizing the hit frequency betting is to not limit the bets to just the last 38 spins. Let the number of times a number has hit over the last several thousand spins (16,219 spins) determine how much to bet on each number. Using the method on this wheel produced a win of $3,104,099 with an edge of 7.17% and a max drawdown of $238,749. Again, the wheel was of course biased.

And yes, this was a real double zero wheel.

 

My suggestion to you all,

1. Lose the pen and paper. You usually can't hand test enough spins to determine whether or not your systems work.

2. Carefully define what it is that you're testing in order to limit the degree of the freedom so that your test produces relevant results.
3. Attempt to form a hypothesis as to why your system should work in the first place. For example: What are the physics at work that could possibly make the system work. (Magic, randomness, the law of the third, and the law of large numbers are not reasons.
4. Conduct out of sample tests.

 

Nice! Love your simulator.

Would you be willing to put some of your spin data online, media fire or Dropbox?

 

IMPORTANT: It's very important that everyone knows that hit frequency betting is NOT the holy grail for betting, and it will NOT make you a consistent winner.

Bobby,

Anytime you'd like to do some testing just let me know and I will test with you on Skype.
I have millions of live spins and the sims can be fun. If you want some data, send me a pm with your email and I'll email you some. I also have some spins from your local casinos too.

 

You're saying that it's Turbo's method, and yet you have absolutely no idea how he bets, so that simulation is totally useless.

 

Earlier in the thread he explained the method. He described a method that is actually a much older betting strategy where the player bets an amount on each number that reflects the number of times it's hit.

 

I should say, I like the fact that he's using a strategy that involves betting on hot numbers instead of cold ones.

 

Rona, this is absurd
I only know that "old " Turbo was very nice person, always open to share his ideas with forum members, but this "new" Turbogenius totally not want to reply on emails and give some more hints.