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Roulette A Challenge 2 - for Turbo M

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Kind of like giving kids an answer sheet the first day of school and then they don't have to think about anything - just answer the test questions from the sheet ? Cool. If only life worked that way.
    I would love to know the "52" spins reasoning as well - I don't play that way.
    If I number hasn't shows in that many spins, it wouldn't matter much to me - I hadn't been playing it for a long time and haven't lost a penny on all those spins where it never showed up.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's half way between 104 spins. The six levels of steps make up 104 spins. It's designed to make you a little money as it recovers. You make most your money off of the single bets at the starting points after each win.

    This is just for research at this point. Most Indian Casinos have a single number limit of $25. It's very rare to find a $1 minimum inside bet at the casinos. I found one though. I have room to extend the 104 spins with as much as $25 in the steps. But stopping at a loss of 424 units is not bad. I expect this to be tested and figured out by the brain trust here.
     
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    TG,

    Straight question to which I would appreciate a straight answer:

    Have you simulated your system over 10 million spins? (please don't say no one would play a system for 10 million spins, so what's the point, lol).
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Absolutely not.
    You can actually prove that something works or doesn't in less spins than that.
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So here is telemetry from 20 tests:

    Code:
    15 -- at spin 21
    97 -- at spin 86
    201 -- at spin 99
    
    33 -- at spin 3
    94 -- at spin 90
    181 -- at spin 99
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    53 -- at spin 34
    102 -- at spin 57
    
    27 -- at spin 9
    64 -- at spin 34
    133 -- at spin 71
    
    8 -- at spin 28
    42 -- at spin 37
    104 -- at spin 44
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    59 -- at spin 93
    131 -- at spin 99
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    42 -- at spin 68
    73 -- at spin 98
    121 -- at spin 116
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    61 -- at spin 27
    122 -- at spin 45
    
    11 -- at spin 25
    48 -- at spin 34
    96 -- at spin 58
    220 -- at spin 152
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    118 -- at spin 90
    
    35 -- at spin 1
    82 -- at spin 48
    155 -- at spin 88
    
    8 -- at spin 28
    46 -- at spin 33
    116 -- at spin 36
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    72 -- at spin 24
    145 -- at spin 33
    
    23 -- at spin 13
    -401 -- at spin 117
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    78 -- at spin 104
    164 -- at spin 159
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    36 -- at spin 97
    69 -- at spin 118
    129 -- at spin 126
    
    40 -- at spin 98
    100 -- at spin 141
    166 -- at spin 191
    
    20 -- at spin 16
    47 -- at spin 93
    86 -- at spin 116
    150 -- at spin 126
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    The grand total of 20 tests = 1209
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So here is the code that makes it all work:

    Code:
    on mouseUp
       global xTopHold
       put "" into field "mainText"
       put 0 into grandTotal
       repeat with zx = 1 to 20
          put 0 into hSpotNow
          put 0 into holdTotal
          put 1 into hSpinCount
          put 1 into hSpinCount2
          put "" into field "mainText2"
          getBestNumber
         
          repeat with i = 1 to 400
             put random(38) into hPayThis
             if hSpinCount < 37 then
                if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                   put 36 into zip1
                   subtract hSpinCount from zip1
                   add zip1 to hSpotNow
                   add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                   put 1 into hSpinCount
                   put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                   put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                end if
             end if
            
             if hSpinCount> 36 then
                if hSpinCount < 54 then
                   if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                      put hSpinCount - 36 into zot
                      put 72 - (36 + (zot * 2)) into zip1
                      add zip1 to hSpotNow
                      add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                      put 1 into hSpinCount
                      put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                      put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                   end if
                end if
             end if
            
             if hSpinCount > 53 then
                if hSpinCount < 66 then
                   if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                      put hSpinCount - 53 into zot
                      put 108 - (74 + (zot * 3)) into zip1
                      add zip1 to hSpotNow
                      add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                      put 1 into hSpinCount
                      put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                      put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                   end if
                end if
             end if
            
             if hSpinCount > 65 then
                if hSpinCount < 80 then
                   if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                      put hSpinCount - 65 into zot
                      put 180 - (108 + (zot * 5))  into zip1
                      add zip1 to hSpotNow
                      add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                      put 1 into hSpinCount
                      put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                      put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                   end if
                end if
             end if
            
             if hSpinCount > 79 then
                if hSpinCount < 93 then
                   if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                      put hSpinCount - 78 into zot
                      put 288 - (180 + (zot * 8))  into zip1
                      add zip1 to hSpotNow
                      add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                      put 1 into hSpinCount
                      put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                      put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                   end if
                end if
             end if
            
             if hSpinCount > 92 then
                if hSpinCount < 105 then
                   if xTopHold = hPayThis then
                      put hSpinCount - 90 into zot
                      put 424 - (288 + (zot * 12))  into zip1
                      add zip1 to hSpotNow
                      add hSpotNow to holdTotal
                      put 1 into hSpinCount
                      put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                      put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                   end if
                end if
             end if
             add 1 to hSpinCount
             add 1 to hSpinCount2
             if hSpinCount > 104 then
                subtract 424 from holdTotal
                put holdTotal & " -- at spin " after field "mainText"
                put hSpinCount2 & return after field "mainText"
                exit repeat
             end if
             if holdTotal > 100 then
                exit repeat
             end if
            
          end repeat
          add holdTotal to grandTotal
          put return after field "mainText"
       end repeat
       put return after field "mainText"
       put "The grand total of 20 tests = " & grandTotal after field "mainText"
      
    end mouseUp
    As you can see, I don't have this version stopping at spin #52.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's so damn easy to discuss a system. It's only hard because people guard themselves because they know human nature.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hmm? I must of made an error in the code. This looks like it works:

    Code:
    34 -- at spin 37
    88 -- at spin 125
    165 -- at spin 137
    
    27 -- at spin 9
    88 -- at spin 10
    155 -- at spin 39
    
    23 -- at spin 13
    61 -- at spin 33
    107 -- at spin 60
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    12 -- at spin 90
    42 -- at spin 107
    89 -- at spin 125
    159 -- at spin 137
    
    10 -- at spin 49
    28 -- at spin 98
    60 -- at spin 144
    93 -- at spin 178
    159 -- at spin 180
    
    76 -- at spin 95
    163 -- at spin 119
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    86 -- at spin 61
    168 -- at spin 71
    
    20 -- at spin 16
    66 -- at spin 25
    114 -- at spin 58
    
    -2 -- at spin 65
    26 -- at spin 70
    79 -- at spin 125
    142 -- at spin 185
    
    1 -- at spin 64
    30 -- at spin 71
    61 -- at spin 104
    116 -- at spin 115
    
    9 -- at spin 27
    42 -- at spin 38
    119 -- at spin 123
    
    40 -- at spin 98
    88 -- at spin 125
    163 -- at spin 133
    
    13 -- at spin 60
    44 -- at spin 77
    87 -- at spin 166
    160 -- at spin 171
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    67 -- at spin 34
    138 -- at spin 70
    
    24 -- at spin 42
    80 -- at spin 114
    157 -- at spin 128
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    49 -- at spin 44
    -375 -- at spin 148
    
    5 -- at spin 31
    34 -- at spin 42
    85 -- at spin 55
    104 -- at spin 158
    
    10 -- at spin 26
    46 -- at spin 35
    99 -- at spin 53
    165 -- at spin 75
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    67 -- at spin 21
    141 -- at spin 62
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    132 -- at spin 97
    
    6 -- at spin 30
    16 -- at spin 130
    57 -- at spin 134
    111 -- at spin 156
    
    2 -- at spin 34
    32 -- at spin 73
    94 -- at spin 76
    166 -- at spin 101
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    44 -- at spin 79
    104 -- at spin 81
    
    6 -- at spin 30
    79 -- at spin 95
    176 -- at spin 136
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    12 -- at spin 24
    40 -- at spin 43
    96 -- at spin 50
    182 -- at spin 55
    
    19 -- at spin 17
    70 -- at spin 20
    148 -- at spin 28
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    56 -- at spin 61
    107 -- at spin 79
    
    15 -- at spin 21
    41 -- at spin 45
    89 -- at spin 87
    142 -- at spin 117
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    84 -- at spin 61
    162 -- at spin 71
    
    28 -- at spin 99
    78 -- at spin 112
    161 -- at spin 114
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    74 -- at spin 52
    145 -- at spin 126
    
    2 -- at spin 34
    27 -- at spin 46
    68 -- at spin 65
    143 -- at spin 101
    
    13 -- at spin 60
    60 -- at spin 61
    127 -- at spin 76
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    79 -- at spin 17
    162 -- at spin 23
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    4 -- at spin 32
    13 -- at spin 62
    90 -- at spin 144
    200 -- at spin 146
    
    25 -- at spin 56
    52 -- at spin 89
    108 -- at spin 95
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    142 -- at spin 90
    
    32 -- at spin 73
    77 -- at spin 95
    164 -- at spin 165
    
    32 -- at spin 4
    86 -- at spin 17
    160 -- at spin 105
    
    33 -- at spin 3
    90 -- at spin 14
    162 -- at spin 34
    
    100 -- at spin 93
    220 -- at spin 108
    
    88 -- at spin 94
    182 -- at spin 123
    
    14 -- at spin 22
    33 -- at spin 52
    77 -- at spin 62
    141 -- at spin 77
    
    7 -- at spin 29
    82 -- at spin 111
    174 -- at spin 186
    
    57 -- at spin 68
    118 -- at spin 119
    
    10 -- at spin 26
    28 -- at spin 75
    56 -- at spin 100
    116 -- at spin 172
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    74 -- at spin 21
    152 -- at spin 28
    
    6 -- at spin 51
    13 -- at spin 85
    54 -- at spin 86
    117 -- at spin 99
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    60 -- at spin 84
    172 -- at spin 152
    
    27 -- at spin 74
    96 -- at spin 144
    169 -- at spin 175
    
    11 -- at spin 25
    35 -- at spin 84
    77 -- at spin 128
    134 -- at spin 148
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    122 -- at spin 88
    
    16 -- at spin 59
    96 -- at spin 154
    202 -- at spin 163
    
    17 -- at spin 76
    44 -- at spin 124
    103 -- at spin 161
    
    9 -- at spin 27
    94 -- at spin 108
    210 -- at spin 112
    
    21 -- at spin 15
    68 -- at spin 24
    125 -- at spin 84
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    38 -- at spin 50
    73 -- at spin 71
    126 -- at spin 88
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    66 -- at spin 30
    131 -- at spin 71
    
    28 -- at spin 40
    66 -- at spin 65
    125 -- at spin 79
    
    3 -- at spin 33
    17 -- at spin 57
    38 -- at spin 85
    60 -- at spin 119
    115 -- at spin 121
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    74 -- at spin 52
    132 -- at spin 81
    
    36 -- at spin 87
    98 -- at spin 96
    170 -- at spin 121
    
    34 -- at spin 37
    75 -- at spin 65
    -349 -- at spin 169
    
    67 -- at spin 66
    145 -- at spin 90
    
    28 -- at spin 8
    81 -- at spin 18
    145 -- at spin 42
    
    68 -- at spin 83
    167 -- at spin 87
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    86 -- at spin 19
    169 -- at spin 23
    
    24 -- at spin 42
    -400 -- at spin 146
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    84 -- at spin 61
    162 -- at spin 71
    
    6 -- at spin 30
    35 -- at spin 42
    97 -- at spin 44
    178 -- at spin 101
    
    1 -- at spin 35
    24 -- at spin 48
    72 -- at spin 58
    138 -- at spin 75
    
    9 -- at spin 27
    22 -- at spin 89
    57 -- at spin 102
    112 -- at spin 145
    
    35 -- at spin 1
    102 -- at spin 4
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    72 -- at spin 53
    144 -- at spin 57
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    25 -- at spin 11
    -399 -- at spin 115
    
    34 -- at spin 37
    48 -- at spin 139
    83 -- at spin 153
    178 -- at spin 236
    
    18 -- at spin 18
    65 -- at spin 24
    134 -- at spin 80
    
    57 -- at spin 68
    136 -- at spin 110
    
    35 -- at spin 1
    92 -- at spin 43
    161 -- at spin 132
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    52 -- at spin 35
    102 -- at spin 81
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    73 -- at spin 20
    134 -- at spin 45
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    77 -- at spin 16
    154 -- at spin 29
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    90 -- at spin 10
    157 -- at spin 60
    
    28 -- at spin 55
    -396 -- at spin 159
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    134 -- at spin 101
    
    30 -- at spin 39
    68 -- at spin 66
    206 -- at spin 158
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    7 -- at spin 29
    41 -- at spin 102
    100 -- at spin 112
    243 -- at spin 192
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    80 -- at spin 21
    140 -- at spin 69
    
    68 -- at spin 83
    139 -- at spin 115
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    56 -- at spin 31
    112 -- at spin 76
    
    21 -- at spin 15
    60 -- at spin 32
    115 -- at spin 90
    
    12 -- at spin 48
    -412 -- at spin 152
    
    
    The grand total of 20 tests = 6939
     
  9. gizmotron

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    Only that was 100 tests. Better figure out why it wins.
     
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    LOLOLOL

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm writing a version that includes the selected number and the entire list of spins for each test. It will be easy to confirm all the hypothesis. I always try to include each step in my sims so that it can be proof of concept. Debug for ten minutes.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is a run at ten tests. So it looks like I accidentally posted the holy grail. Now watch the feeding frenzy to follow. I suggest keeping it buried here in this innocuous thread for as long as anyone can.

    Code:
    12 -- at spin 24
    38 -- at spin 70
    83 -- at spin 86
    154 -- at spin 126
    
    The selected number is 24
    22, 12, 16, 32, 27, 9, 11, 11, 33, 35, 8, 17, 8, 35, 4, 25, 8, 36, 32, 29, 5, 13, 19, 24, 22, 36, 31, 17, 21, 31, 17, 34, 9, 11, 18, 30, 20, 26, 22, 10, 35, 10, 30, 37, 5, 35, 3, 7, 25, 29, 31, 23, 22, 12, 33, 19, 3, 30, 20, 10, 34, 31, 3, 12, 20, 23, 13, 8, 3, 24, 1, 30, 3, 6, 18, 22, 28, 3, 6, 13, 31, 1, 3, 18, 2, 24, 11, 36, 8, 5, 10, 3, 34, 23, 12, 37, 6, 33, 35, 26, 16, 19, 25, 20, 11, 30, 4, 6, 14, 9, 25, 36, 36, 21, 9, 36, 30, 7, 34, 4, 3, 7, 20, 8, 33, 24,
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    96 -- at spin 56
    160 -- at spin 134
    
    The selected number is 6
    33, 6, 9, 33, 32, 16, 38, 8, 12, 30, 26, 29, 25, 30, 30, 7, 23, 23, 19, 23, 11, 2, 17, 17, 12, 9, 31, 16, 15, 32, 22, 11, 34, 16, 30, 2, 31, 23, 8, 2, 34, 8, 15, 11, 26, 38, 4, 3, 19, 22, 20, 23, 11, 16, 3, 6, 13, 9, 30, 14, 30, 11, 28, 37, 30, 1, 1, 5, 33, 31, 2, 2, 27, 16, 34, 28, 34, 19, 32, 8, 9, 27, 32, 1, 26, 16, 11, 38, 22, 17, 16, 38, 36, 21, 9, 8, 21, 15, 17, 37, 7, 25, 32, 4, 30, 9, 34, 24, 30, 16, 19, 26, 21, 5, 9, 30, 25, 38, 12, 37, 38, 31, 10, 35, 35, 34, 17, 8, 28, 13, 34, 13, 10, 6,
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    57 -- at spin 38
    104 -- at spin 84
    
    The selected number is 10
    2, 31, 15, 25, 2, 6, 7, 34, 15, 17, 19, 10, 14, 30, 38, 31, 28, 7, 32, 6, 36, 38, 36, 13, 30, 24, 16, 28, 29, 32, 37, 15, 22, 29, 6, 9, 21, 10, 31, 23, 29, 30, 38, 15, 38, 14, 31, 3, 18, 21, 36, 30, 27, 21, 12, 3, 5, 9, 22, 28, 31, 34, 3, 6, 3, 20, 3, 9, 12, 12, 21, 14, 2, 18, 33, 18, 19, 13, 22, 7, 14, 4, 35, 10,
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    81 -- at spin 24
    158 -- at spin 62
    
    The selected number is 3
    29, 3, 29, 21, 22, 38, 4, 29, 26, 1, 5, 29, 18, 10, 16, 36, 7, 1, 25, 13, 12, 23, 7, 3, 25, 19, 13, 7, 22, 35, 18, 28, 30, 17, 33, 7, 38, 33, 11, 23, 30, 19, 27, 21, 24, 24, 7, 19, 19, 22, 26, 25, 29, 19, 20, 27, 27, 11, 25, 26, 32, 3,
    ---------------------------------
    
    4 -- at spin 101
    9 -- at spin 135
    15 -- at spin 169
    37 -- at spin 188
    86 -- at spin 196
    162 -- at spin 204
    
    The selected number is 9
    13, 2, 29, 8, 8, 32, 14, 33, 34, 36, 21, 25, 8, 1, 35, 29, 21, 17, 33, 34, 12, 28, 12, 18, 10, 16, 22, 5, 16, 6, 35, 1, 26, 10, 14, 32, 34, 16, 35, 33, 28, 35, 24, 5, 3, 21, 10, 26, 5, 2, 2, 12, 4, 3, 23, 36, 14, 26, 31, 15, 28, 17, 15, 16, 21, 4, 10, 7, 16, 36, 19, 31, 21, 24, 22, 36, 18, 1, 2, 30, 6, 29, 7, 10, 14, 32, 13, 28, 27, 22, 23, 13, 3, 7, 10, 6, 37, 6, 25, 17, 9, 11, 36, 17, 12, 17, 32, 22, 35, 11, 24, 16, 23, 29, 14, 36, 31, 32, 26, 24, 13, 21, 19, 17, 4, 22, 19, 14, 26, 2, 17, 8, 7, 33, 9, 24, 2, 17, 27, 26, 7, 7, 7, 14, 27, 32, 37, 34, 10, 32, 5, 23, 5, 33, 18, 5, 22, 29, 4, 1, 14, 3, 15, 27, 15, 36, 24, 35, 9, 16, 23, 26, 22, 21, 13, 10, 5, 20, 29, 36, 35, 13, 23, 8, 11, 20, 20, 9, 18, 22, 22, 2, 37, 20, 17, 9, 8, 26, 38, 21, 30, 11, 2, 9,
    ---------------------------------
    
    2 -- at spin 79
    31 -- at spin 87
    83 -- at spin 99
    144 -- at spin 125
    
    The selected number is 10
    34, 21, 12, 4, 30, 24, 11, 19, 6, 21, 28, 21, 23, 32, 27, 22, 3, 3, 26, 13, 26, 13, 22, 8, 38, 18, 11, 27, 20, 22, 34, 4, 11, 13, 29, 38, 31, 38, 37, 32, 24, 4, 26, 3, 5, 13, 18, 4, 18, 4, 38, 36, 20, 30, 36, 35, 24, 37, 33, 12, 33, 2, 24, 35, 29, 27, 17, 13, 36, 21, 26, 26, 18, 6, 29, 29, 22, 18, 10, 13, 14, 3, 15, 35, 20, 13, 10, 3, 27, 19, 35, 23, 29, 36, 37, 1, 38, 34, 10, 25, 31, 26, 30, 20, 18, 7, 30, 11, 18, 16, 21, 28, 29, 7, 34, 5, 4, 11, 12, 24, 29, 31, 5, 13, 10,
    ---------------------------------
    
    33 -- at spin 3
    79 -- at spin 25
    157 -- at spin 62
    
    The selected number is 34
    38, 3, 34, 18, 9, 2, 22, 35, 2, 6, 19, 1, 5, 2, 28, 22, 8, 8, 23, 24, 9, 27, 2, 1, 34, 24, 16, 11, 12, 36, 19, 18, 15, 37, 25, 25, 7, 36, 11, 35, 30, 36, 36, 16, 5, 2, 19, 4, 36, 23, 29, 32, 23, 26, 2, 14, 23, 16, 21, 24, 3, 34,
    ---------------------------------
    
    23 -- at spin 13
    86 -- at spin 110
    180 -- at spin 114
    
    The selected number is 18
    38, 26, 35, 38, 12, 13, 22, 4, 35, 22, 2, 37, 18, 36, 16, 3, 25, 16, 6, 28, 28, 37, 22, 5, 33, 35, 37, 29, 1, 35, 25, 2, 34, 36, 8, 16, 24, 7, 35, 21, 27, 33, 23, 2, 38, 15, 7, 13, 20, 16, 17, 4, 25, 37, 23, 5, 21, 1, 14, 11, 5, 30, 28, 10, 32, 31, 37, 11, 7, 23, 5, 38, 3, 10, 30, 32, 32, 33, 25, 4, 11, 16, 1, 29, 8, 9, 14, 28, 27, 33, 3, 37, 16, 35, 21, 8, 35, 28, 31, 8, 1, 2, 14, 9, 26, 2, 9, 6, 16, 18, 5, 10, 19, 18,
    ---------------------------------
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    54 -- at spin 34
    96 -- at spin 64
    172 -- at spin 65
    
    The selected number is 20
    12, 16, 17, 19, 36, 18, 11, 32, 30, 37, 23, 11, 25, 4, 35, 30, 36, 26, 20, 16, 27, 24, 23, 15, 10, 18, 23, 32, 18, 14, 19, 10, 18, 20, 19, 34, 30, 17, 24, 37, 3, 11, 27, 34, 14, 22, 12, 14, 17, 34, 26, 13, 17, 35, 7, 6, 12, 22, 23, 22, 30, 23, 13, 20, 20,
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    78 -- at spin 27
    142 -- at spin 70
    
    The selected number is 33
    21, 33, 20, 38, 22, 37, 17, 38, 22, 20, 35, 30, 30, 29, 16, 16, 34, 19, 23, 18, 26, 26, 13, 23, 7, 25, 33, 14, 30, 38, 32, 22, 18, 35, 25, 9, 19, 25, 34, 17, 24, 22, 36, 19, 29, 36, 12, 37, 12, 12, 2, 27, 3, 3, 1, 8, 25, 37, 7, 20, 19, 15, 26, 34, 8, 32, 30, 32, 1, 33,
    ---------------------------------
    
    
    The grand total of 10 tests = 1533
     
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  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    These totals look wrong. That's why telemetry works so good for debugging it. It does not add up right.
     
  14. Bobby

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    Yep, I just did a total by hand for the first set with the number 24 selected in 126 spins and I got a total of 76 not 154.

    I had 12 at spin 24 and 70 at spin 38 but I did not have the total or the spin numbers 86 & 126

    I was following the progression 1 @ 36, 2@ 17 etc...
     
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  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I found it. I forgot to zero out a variable after each win.

    Here is ten tests with telemetry:

    Code:
    1 -- at spin 64
    31 -- at spin 69
    56 -- at spin 79
    60 -- at spin 110
    66 -- at spin 139
    88 -- at spin 152
    120 -- at spin 189
    
    The selected number is 9
    18, 30, 1, 6, 21, 19, 33, 38, 7, 16, 3, 36, 11, 27, 11, 37, 36, 8, 32, 22, 32, 20, 12, 31, 4, 36, 37, 8, 26, 1, 28, 19, 29, 29, 14, 32, 5, 28, 14, 36, 2, 17, 24, 15, 19, 38, 3, 36, 38, 5, 38, 20, 8, 27, 37, 18, 34, 37, 12, 18, 30, 29, 34, 9, 24, 37, 24, 32, 9, 27, 6, 10, 23, 36, 20, 22, 21, 7, 9, 35, 14, 16, 23, 19, 18, 5, 20, 3, 10, 3, 32, 2, 24, 38, 7, 10, 33, 11, 18, 28, 16, 31, 19, 4, 4, 17, 34, 29, 19, 9, 38, 34, 33, 24, 11, 23, 18, 29, 10, 38, 26, 23, 24, 4, 3, 24, 1, 12, 7, 36, 33, 5, 30, 16, 38, 12, 29, 10, 9, 16, 13, 1, 31, 21, 38, 13, 27, 31, 38, 16, 5, 9, 28, 19, 28, 33, 10, 19, 14, 29, 17, 3, 10, 16, 28, 17, 3, 34, 25, 30, 30, 30, 35, 3, 16, 6, 26, 31, 29, 10, 17, 28, 15, 24, 8, 19, 11, 35, 9,
    ---------------------------------
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    39 -- at spin 67
    47 -- at spin 116
    61 -- at spin 162
    94 -- at spin 164
    126 -- at spin 201
    
    The selected number is 34
    29, 36, 6, 28, 21, 1, 34, 1, 10, 5, 29, 14, 30, 22, 29, 28, 28, 17, 14, 21, 30, 20, 30, 28, 4, 25, 21, 18, 9, 23, 9, 30, 37, 29, 3, 36, 6, 16, 10, 36, 5, 18, 37, 26, 26, 11, 2, 6, 37, 38, 15, 31, 26, 6, 33, 37, 33, 22, 33, 16, 3, 4, 5, 22, 13, 8, 34, 1, 28, 20, 19, 33, 7, 16, 5, 6, 13, 38, 37, 27, 16, 18, 29, 2, 21, 13, 10, 36, 12, 21, 10, 1, 15, 22, 2, 5, 19, 32, 8, 11, 7, 5, 9, 7, 27, 20, 19, 19, 18, 32, 7, 36, 12, 31, 25, 34, 1, 21, 3, 23, 24, 10, 28, 23, 17, 15, 5, 38, 24, 19, 9, 36, 11, 37, 23, 32, 12, 12, 9, 11, 7, 10, 17, 5, 2, 13, 33, 8, 5, 10, 19, 13, 33, 32, 12, 24, 6, 21, 1, 1, 11, 34, 28, 34, 13, 3, 35, 2, 29, 8, 2, 31, 38, 35, 6, 25, 30, 20, 18, 1, 28, 32, 23, 15, 3, 35, 20, 19, 20, 27, 29, 11, 3, 12, 17, 17, 25, 22, 30, 3, 34,
    ---------------------------------
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    40 -- at spin 31
    53 -- at spin 90
    79 -- at spin 99
    113 -- at spin 100
    
    The selected number is 30
    23, 23, 23, 14, 31, 30, 20, 24, 18, 17, 36, 36, 18, 23, 5, 27, 19, 15, 22, 9, 9, 6, 1, 35, 16, 16, 12, 23, 29, 6, 30, 7, 6, 16, 21, 10, 23, 33, 29, 17, 12, 37, 25, 2, 9, 24, 31, 8, 20, 10, 12, 7, 9, 33, 6, 3, 15, 35, 5, 2, 18, 28, 1, 9, 11, 38, 25, 9, 9, 14, 38, 17, 2, 21, 37, 35, 37, 17, 37, 8, 34, 4, 13, 10, 12, 2, 26, 27, 15, 30, 38, 27, 38, 13, 15, 26, 31, 15, 30, 30,
    ---------------------------------
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    74 -- at spin 91
    97 -- at spin 103
    141 -- at spin 188
    
    The selected number is 26
    18, 38, 17, 9, 36, 26, 14, 23, 21, 5, 7, 8, 11, 20, 34, 31, 22, 27, 18, 19, 18, 34, 16, 22, 13, 36, 16, 19, 22, 12, 25, 2, 29, 30, 28, 17, 27, 37, 23, 10, 16, 17, 32, 25, 10, 15, 12, 37, 11, 18, 11, 25, 37, 38, 5, 15, 35, 29, 7, 29, 38, 28, 6, 12, 16, 11, 29, 38, 31, 4, 2, 27, 34, 25, 17, 11, 14, 34, 33, 4, 27, 34, 23, 28, 24, 33, 19, 30, 24, 28, 26, 6, 15, 19, 28, 16, 9, 25, 34, 4, 1, 33, 26, 28, 30, 27, 28, 27, 24, 38, 25, 24, 17, 23, 31, 18, 6, 29, 6, 28, 10, 17, 20, 3, 17, 32, 37, 4, 35, 8, 2, 21, 9, 30, 21, 9, 3, 8, 4, 8, 18, 24, 7, 18, 23, 15, 15, 10, 1, 16, 4, 38, 12, 21, 33, 22, 5, 18, 11, 27, 34, 14, 35, 34, 23, 33, 27, 20, 4, 7, 12, 7, 2, 37, 1, 16, 19, 18, 32, 7, 2, 30, 35, 18, 5, 7, 4, 26,
    ---------------------------------
    
    44 -- at spin 86
    51 -- at spin 114
    62 -- at spin 138
    -362 -- at spin 242
    
    The selected number is 13
    4, 17, 11, 28, 30, 31, 22, 7, 38, 18, 8, 37, 30, 22, 36, 3, 9, 2, 34, 19, 26, 18, 19, 21, 2, 6, 24, 21, 2, 37, 37, 31, 23, 4, 10, 12, 28, 31, 30, 27, 11, 8, 34, 34, 4, 21, 20, 32, 38, 17, 3, 33, 17, 24, 6, 31, 23, 7, 9, 38, 22, 16, 29, 35, 28, 35, 30, 20, 2, 33, 6, 37, 22, 34, 30, 33, 25, 31, 5, 37, 27, 34, 7, 19, 32, 13, 23, 30, 9, 11, 32, 20, 26, 28, 6, 29, 19, 17, 35, 34, 36, 24, 14, 15, 34, 4, 18, 34, 37, 26, 27, 25, 26, 13, 32, 7, 11, 2, 37, 30, 4, 7, 19, 15, 27, 24, 21, 19, 18, 16, 34, 35, 5, 21, 6, 33, 12, 13, 1, 2, 18, 11, 24, 24, 4, 19, 20, 24, 29, 14, 19, 35, 26, 31, 29, 19, 32, 15, 24, 18, 37, 31, 8, 4, 5, 16, 15, 35, 29, 34, 37, 28, 14, 10, 15, 1, 4, 32, 31, 8, 11, 27, 18, 28, 17, 7, 1, 12, 22, 5, 36, 10, 21, 38, 9, 3, 4, 26, 32, 10, 10, 15, 22, 27, 34, 37, 5, 27, 28, 20, 2, 26, 32, 32, 36, 31, 29, 2, 24, 7, 28, 22, 17, 32, 5, 11, 33, 10, 4, 3, 38, 11, 34, 6, 30, 15, 7, 18, 9, 27, 17,
    ---------------------------------
    
    -4 -- at spin 92
    2 -- at spin 142
    30 -- at spin 196
    52 -- at spin 252
    75 -- at spin 264
    93 -- at spin 308
    118 -- at spin 318
    
    The selected number is 3
    16, 38, 24, 1, 18, 35, 1, 8, 17, 30, 10, 29, 29, 27, 29, 10, 36, 6, 7, 9, 30, 2, 16, 12, 35, 25, 25, 31, 23, 11, 38, 20, 34, 32, 36, 18, 37, 23, 28, 26, 17, 19, 9, 4, 26, 6, 18, 14, 35, 1, 35, 30, 18, 37, 18, 21, 1, 20, 21, 12, 30, 27, 22, 24, 28, 13, 14, 18, 28, 16, 19, 29, 37, 30, 6, 10, 25, 10, 16, 20, 34, 18, 28, 37, 16, 4, 33, 31, 8, 34, 5, 3, 18, 35, 7, 10, 38, 18, 16, 36, 30, 37, 23, 36, 23, 36, 32, 22, 32, 37, 32, 2, 12, 22, 30, 4, 16, 22, 13, 15, 4, 38, 1, 4, 29, 33, 12, 1, 5, 12, 25, 34, 6, 35, 5, 8, 17, 26, 31, 24, 11, 3, 11, 8, 1, 16, 22, 28, 33, 27, 14, 24, 13, 19, 4, 2, 18, 10, 14, 1, 4, 7, 26, 6, 8, 36, 15, 19, 34, 36, 5, 11, 18, 30, 7, 30, 19, 27, 20, 35, 24, 14, 16, 19, 8, 22, 28, 5, 25, 14, 24, 35, 16, 5, 26, 3, 21, 12, 8, 36, 19, 25, 10, 6, 26, 16, 13, 8, 32, 24, 24, 24, 33, 9, 37, 33, 26, 37, 34, 20, 24, 11, 8, 10, 25, 37, 8, 7, 25, 18, 31, 37, 13, 33, 26, 27, 11, 25, 20, 34, 24, 28, 8, 22, 38, 14, 2, 9, 13, 28, 32, 3, 28, 31, 27, 36, 24, 26, 7, 28, 10, 36, 38, 3, 12, 20, 27, 34, 26, 2, 6, 7, 4, 19, 28, 38, 13, 11, 19, 5, 15, 33, 30, 19, 29, 5, 22, 36, 14, 18, 11, 21, 20, 23, 31, 21, 13, 32, 36, 26, 16, 5, 27, 27, 22, 17, 24, 3, 1, 27, 28, 31, 27, 28, 31, 25, 24, 3,
    ---------------------------------
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    63 -- at spin 89
    85 -- at spin 131
    102 -- at spin 206
    
    The selected number is 7
    35, 29, 35, 16, 2, 18, 30, 25, 17, 16, 13, 30, 28, 14, 14, 28, 20, 35, 12, 7, 3, 33, 2, 38, 12, 29, 37, 24, 4, 6, 26, 23, 30, 30, 26, 31, 21, 22, 21, 35, 16, 37, 12, 9, 11, 17, 20, 15, 13, 24, 36, 30, 37, 11, 5, 6, 37, 29, 27, 1, 37, 28, 18, 26, 28, 31, 6, 34, 12, 12, 36, 30, 32, 11, 13, 25, 31, 35, 18, 20, 27, 2, 36, 9, 31, 12, 1, 18, 7, 3, 27, 38, 18, 6, 2, 8, 33, 20, 20, 26, 11, 28, 10, 29, 26, 18, 36, 2, 21, 1, 36, 27, 2, 23, 33, 30, 16, 20, 9, 11, 24, 20, 33, 18, 14, 3, 8, 22, 13, 30, 7, 2, 37, 26, 13, 12, 27, 2, 28, 3, 29, 36, 31, 3, 34, 25, 14, 21, 4, 1, 34, 6, 20, 3, 31, 36, 34, 6, 38, 22, 32, 28, 36, 26, 20, 16, 8, 29, 3, 30, 4, 25, 2, 5, 9, 25, 18, 32, 15, 36, 22, 29, 4, 3, 29, 5, 18, 3, 38, 37, 17, 13, 10, 28, 9, 37, 3, 35, 32, 26, 25, 13, 18, 25, 2, 7,
    ---------------------------------
    
    32 -- at spin 38
    52 -- at spin 53
    73 -- at spin 67
    86 -- at spin 89
    111 -- at spin 99
    
    The selected number is 1
    8, 16, 5, 23, 9, 4, 20, 8, 6, 37, 15, 13, 37, 30, 15, 9, 28, 18, 27, 7, 7, 37, 13, 36, 13, 35, 28, 24, 31, 7, 31, 17, 18, 36, 16, 37, 23, 1, 19, 24, 4, 29, 12, 34, 14, 34, 26, 24, 22, 12, 33, 24, 1, 22, 34, 14, 26, 19, 7, 21, 7, 5, 16, 28, 35, 38, 1, 14, 3, 14, 21, 15, 35, 6, 22, 21, 26, 30, 2, 22, 24, 37, 31, 16, 28, 33, 34, 14, 1, 24, 34, 23, 7, 32, 5, 27, 10, 36, 1,
    ---------------------------------
    
    1 -- at spin 35
    101 -- at spin 127
    
    The selected number is 25
    23, 26, 15, 18, 3, 26, 27, 38, 21, 7, 13, 18, 38, 34, 4, 12, 20, 38, 37, 4, 19, 7, 26, 10, 13, 36, 37, 3, 22, 7, 1, 18, 35, 9, 25, 19, 1, 30, 13, 23, 34, 28, 30, 38, 12, 33, 28, 16, 12, 13, 21, 30, 20, 30, 22, 15, 35, 33, 38, 32, 29, 5, 8, 38, 10, 4, 35, 8, 8, 31, 15, 31, 18, 9, 6, 5, 17, 27, 31, 24, 24, 8, 22, 20, 14, 34, 16, 26, 7, 7, 28, 33, 10, 27, 12, 35, 10, 17, 35, 31, 15, 5, 27, 24, 5, 38, 22, 12, 2, 18, 29, 7, 14, 30, 2, 27, 16, 37, 34, 32, 29, 30, 22, 16, 28, 26, 25,
    ---------------------------------
    
    19 -- at spin 17
    23 -- at spin 79
    37 -- at spin 125
    71 -- at spin 161
    171 -- at spin 253
    
    The selected number is 12
    26, 35, 3, 22, 21, 10, 34, 36, 13, 1, 38, 3, 8, 5, 5, 9, 12, 8, 32, 2, 2, 24, 5, 37, 32, 32, 10, 6, 5, 1, 7, 23, 33, 9, 22, 16, 34, 10, 32, 23, 37, 26, 1, 16, 25, 6, 24, 8, 32, 28, 28, 11, 22, 24, 32, 8, 17, 3, 27, 9, 21, 10, 19, 29, 1, 10, 2, 30, 7, 23, 11, 11, 29, 28, 37, 10, 19, 20, 12, 6, 17, 7, 19, 16, 23, 24, 5, 18, 16, 23, 38, 31, 25, 23, 15, 20, 29, 35, 23, 29, 13, 32, 7, 20, 19, 15, 35, 29, 5, 22, 27, 18, 31, 35, 6, 30, 27, 18, 1, 35, 2, 6, 36, 21, 12, 9, 22, 33, 34, 32, 16, 3, 16, 9, 29, 1, 7, 31, 3, 15, 16, 15, 30, 18, 25, 8, 25, 19, 7, 30, 20, 14, 27, 19, 19, 3, 27, 36, 13, 37, 12, 38, 11, 26, 30, 34, 13, 33, 15, 5, 6, 19, 15, 21, 21, 24, 15, 17, 5, 18, 29, 1, 13, 26, 25, 19, 33, 30, 23, 38, 34, 23, 15, 31, 25, 27, 26, 7, 5, 23, 8, 2, 14, 3, 34, 29, 24, 13, 21, 35, 33, 4, 15, 10, 36, 8, 18, 30, 21, 6, 11, 24, 17, 31, 18, 25, 26, 28, 6, 15, 23, 22, 17, 11, 20, 38, 11, 22, 22, 29, 13, 22, 18, 14, 9, 5, 10, 23, 38, 21, 22, 31, 12,
    ---------------------------------
    
    
    The grand total of 10 tests = 741
     
  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, that's better. I ran several runs at 100 tests each and they all lost. Those 100 times tests are about 60,000 to 105,000 spins.

    As I suspected. It's yet another loser. It's just that easy to screw up a claim.

    Code:
    33 -- at spin 3
    93 -- at spin 86
    122 -- at spin 92
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    16 -- at spin 46
    47 -- at spin 50
    80 -- at spin 52
    102 -- at spin 65
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    12 -- at spin 48
    41 -- at spin 54
    61 -- at spin 69
    113 -- at spin 153
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    14 -- at spin 47
    66 -- at spin 131
    80 -- at spin 152
    109 -- at spin 158
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    16 -- at spin 100
    18 -- at spin 178
    27 -- at spin 204
    60 -- at spin 206
    -364 -- at spin 310
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    7 -- at spin 78
    7 -- at spin 113
    19 -- at spin 136
    32 -- at spin 158
    66 -- at spin 194
    88 -- at spin 268
    99 -- at spin 292
    -325 -- at spin 396
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    67 -- at spin 66
    77 -- at spin 114
    107 -- at spin 119
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    37 -- at spin 34
    38 -- at spin 68
    56 -- at spin 85
    61 -- at spin 115
    93 -- at spin 118
    112 -- at spin 134
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    14 -- at spin 22
    35 -- at spin 36
    39 -- at spin 98
    68 -- at spin 104
    90 -- at spin 160
    119 -- at spin 166
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    27 -- at spin 9
    60 -- at spin 11
    79 -- at spin 27
    89 -- at spin 52
    107 -- at spin 69
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    8 -- at spin 28
    -416 -- at spin 132
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    52 -- at spin 85
    62 -- at spin 110
    85 -- at spin 122
    100 -- at spin 142
    152 -- at spin 210
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    5 -- at spin 31
    15 -- at spin 56
    32 -- at spin 74
    64 -- at spin 146
    64 -- at spin 181
    91 -- at spin 189
    114 -- at spin 201
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    21 -- at spin 15
    85 -- at spin 110
    113 -- at spin 117
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    5 -- at spin 31
    37 -- at spin 68
    71 -- at spin 69
    92 -- at spin 83
    120 -- at spin 122
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    3 -- at spin 33
    65 -- at spin 99
    77 -- at spin 122
    77 -- at spin 157
    104 -- at spin 165
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    17 -- at spin 19
    41 -- at spin 60
    117 -- at spin 141
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    21 -- at spin 15
    51 -- at spin 20
    55 -- at spin 71
    58 -- at spin 103
    81 -- at spin 115
    112 -- at spin 119
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    2 -- at spin 53
    24 -- at spin 127
    38 -- at spin 148
    42 -- at spin 199
    66 -- at spin 240
    98 -- at spin 243
    119 -- at spin 257
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    28 -- at spin 8
    62 -- at spin 9
    66 -- at spin 71
    80 -- at spin 92
    92 -- at spin 115
    111 -- at spin 131
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    55 -- at spin 16
    77 -- at spin 29
    145 -- at spin 111
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    20 -- at spin 44
    48 -- at spin 51
    69 -- at spin 65
    98 -- at spin 71
    131 -- at spin 73
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    14 -- at spin 22
    -410 -- at spin 126
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    37 -- at spin 72
    46 -- at spin 98
    76 -- at spin 103
    100 -- at spin 114
    112 -- at spin 137
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    3 -- at spin 33
    37 -- at spin 34
    41 -- at spin 134
    60 -- at spin 150
    81 -- at spin 164
    107 -- at spin 173
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 37
    35 -- at spin 100
    57 -- at spin 174
    87 -- at spin 179
    119 -- at spin 216
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    46 -- at spin 25
    68 -- at spin 38
    78 -- at spin 86
    111 -- at spin 88
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    28 -- at spin 40
    80 -- at spin 108
    110 -- at spin 113
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    6 -- at spin 51
    29 -- at spin 63
    51 -- at spin 119
    70 -- at spin 135
    93 -- at spin 147
    97 -- at spin 178
    117 -- at spin 193
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    42 -- at spin 71
    76 -- at spin 72
    87 -- at spin 96
    110 -- at spin 108
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    32 -- at spin 4
    46 -- at spin 25
    60 -- at spin 71
    92 -- at spin 74
    112 -- at spin 89
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    2 -- at spin 34
    9 -- at spin 111
    34 -- at spin 121
    59 -- at spin 131
    63 -- at spin 162
    -361 -- at spin 266
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 37
    58 -- at spin 48
    85 -- at spin 56
    103 -- at spin 73
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    25 -- at spin 56
    49 -- at spin 67
    72 -- at spin 79
    82 -- at spin 139
    116 -- at spin 175
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    3 -- at spin 33
    7 -- at spin 64
    34 -- at spin 72
    66 -- at spin 75
    74 -- at spin 102
    83 -- at spin 128
    110 -- at spin 136
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    34 -- at spin 37
    38 -- at spin 99
    44 -- at spin 128
    101 -- at spin 195
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    56 -- at spin 15
    90 -- at spin 51
    102 -- at spin 98
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    67 -- at spin 66
    79 -- at spin 142
    104 -- at spin 152
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    33 -- at spin 3
    67 -- at spin 39
    89 -- at spin 52
    110 -- at spin 66
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    19 -- at spin 17
    44 -- at spin 72
    48 -- at spin 172
    57 -- at spin 198
    87 -- at spin 203
    109 -- at spin 245
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    13 -- at spin 23
    46 -- at spin 25
    146 -- at spin 117
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    13 -- at spin 23
    30 -- at spin 41
    55 -- at spin 96
    55 -- at spin 131
    107 -- at spin 199
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    35 -- at spin 1
    58 -- at spin 13
    75 -- at spin 88
    103 -- at spin 142
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    0 -- at spin 36
    28 -- at spin 43
    38 -- at spin 103
    42 -- at spin 134
    59 -- at spin 209
    65 -- at spin 238
    67 -- at spin 316
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    13 -- at spin 23
    28 -- at spin 43
    43 -- at spin 63
    63 -- at spin 106
    77 -- at spin 127
    45 -- at spin 230
    59 -- at spin 251
    61 -- at spin 284
    79 -- at spin 301
    89 -- at spin 349
    109 -- at spin 392
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    20 -- at spin 16
    46 -- at spin 25
    80 -- at spin 26
    80 -- at spin 61
    87 -- at spin 122
    107 -- at spin 137
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    2 -- at spin 34
    35 -- at spin 36
    -389 -- at spin 140
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 42
    55 -- at spin 46
    147 -- at spin 125
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    19 -- at spin 17
    -405 -- at spin 121
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    68 -- at spin 83
    80 -- at spin 106
    94 -- at spin 127
    108 -- at spin 148
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    39 -- at spin 54
    70 -- at spin 58
    89 -- at spin 74
    102 -- at spin 133
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    20 -- at spin 44
    54 -- at spin 80
    62 -- at spin 129
    93 -- at spin 133
    100 -- at spin 194
    104 -- at spin 245
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    18 -- at spin 18
    22 -- at spin 108
    84 -- at spin 174
    114 -- at spin 212
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    10 -- at spin 49
    43 -- at spin 51
    67 -- at spin 62
    95 -- at spin 69
    125 -- at spin 74
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    13 -- at spin 60
    45 -- at spin 63
    48 -- at spin 95
    57 -- at spin 121
    91 -- at spin 157
    105 -- at spin 178
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    17 -- at spin 76
    49 -- at spin 148
    -375 -- at spin 252
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    42 -- at spin 71
    48 -- at spin 100
    59 -- at spin 124
    59 -- at spin 159
    66 -- at spin 187
    91 -- at spin 197
    122 -- at spin 250
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    4 -- at spin 63
    17 -- at spin 85
    41 -- at spin 96
    73 -- at spin 99
    -351 -- at spin 203
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    6 -- at spin 30
    22 -- at spin 75
    52 -- at spin 113
    75 -- at spin 125
    81 -- at spin 154
    85 -- at spin 205
    85 -- at spin 240
    104 -- at spin 256
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    19 -- at spin 58
    71 -- at spin 142
    86 -- at spin 162
    104 -- at spin 179
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    7 -- at spin 62
    -417 -- at spin 166
    
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    31 -- at spin 5
    63 -- at spin 8
    68 -- at spin 38
    100 -- at spin 41
    104 -- at spin 72
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    28 -- at spin 88
    37 -- at spin 114
    54 -- at spin 132
    71 -- at spin 150
    93 -- at spin 224
    118 -- at spin 234
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    31 -- at spin 73
    39 -- at spin 122
    62 -- at spin 134
    72 -- at spin 194
    79 -- at spin 222
    105 -- at spin 231
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    -424 -- at spin 105
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    29 -- at spin 7
    60 -- at spin 11
    -364 -- at spin 115
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    22 -- at spin 43
    34 -- at spin 66
    58 -- at spin 77
    -366 -- at spin 181
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    8 -- at spin 50
    25 -- at spin 68
    -399 -- at spin 172
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    31 -- at spin 5
    115 -- at spin 85
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    15 -- at spin 21
    27 -- at spin 68
    50 -- at spin 80
    77 -- at spin 88
    107 -- at spin 126
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    18 -- at spin 45
    42 -- at spin 56
    48 -- at spin 85
    59 -- at spin 109
    74 -- at spin 129
    158 -- at spin 209
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    6 -- at spin 51
    20 -- at spin 97
    44 -- at spin 138
    74 -- at spin 143
    83 -- at spin 169
    98 -- at spin 189
    109 -- at spin 213
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    18 -- at spin 45
    10 -- at spin 146
    21 -- at spin 170
    51 -- at spin 175
    53 -- at spin 208
    53 -- at spin 243
    129 -- at spin 324
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    19 -- at spin 17
    71 -- at spin 113
    88 -- at spin 131
    110 -- at spin 205
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    11 -- at spin 25
    41 -- at spin 30
    41 -- at spin 65
    51 -- at spin 90
    75 -- at spin 101
    122 -- at spin 170
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    16 -- at spin 20
    46 -- at spin 25
    75 -- at spin 31
    84 -- at spin 57
    106 -- at spin 70
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    26 -- at spin 41
    41 -- at spin 61
    44 -- at spin 93
    101 -- at spin 160
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    30 -- at spin 6
    56 -- at spin 46
    78 -- at spin 102
    100 -- at spin 115
    110 -- at spin 175
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    56 -- at spin 15
    103 -- at spin 84
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    14 -- at spin 47
    39 -- at spin 57
    61 -- at spin 70
    89 -- at spin 157
    123 -- at spin 158
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    31 -- at spin 54
    -393 -- at spin 158
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    24 -- at spin 12
    38 -- at spin 33
    66 -- at spin 40
    -358 -- at spin 144
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    44 -- at spin 27
    45 -- at spin 61
    76 -- at spin 65
    76 -- at spin 100
    128 -- at spin 168
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    26 -- at spin 10
    56 -- at spin 48
    69 -- at spin 70
    84 -- at spin 90
    118 -- at spin 91
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    23 -- at spin 13
    55 -- at spin 16
    86 -- at spin 20
    115 -- at spin 26
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    22 -- at spin 14
    41 -- at spin 30
    47 -- at spin 59
    49 -- at spin 137
    53 -- at spin 168
    -371 -- at spin 272
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    27 -- at spin 9
    27 -- at spin 44
    79 -- at spin 128
    126 -- at spin 197
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    18 -- at spin 45
    30 -- at spin 92
    36 -- at spin 121
    62 -- at spin 130
    80 -- at spin 174
    92 -- at spin 197
    119 -- at spin 205
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    27 -- at spin 9
    44 -- at spin 27
    88 -- at spin 112
    93 -- at spin 142
    101 -- at spin 169
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    34 -- at spin 2
    -390 -- at spin 106
    
    ---------------------------------
    
    33 -- at spin 3
    42 -- at spin 29
    51 -- at spin 55
    77 -- at spin 64
    95 -- at spin 108
    123 -- at spin 195
    
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    The grand total of 10 tests = -2388
     
  17. Bobby

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    1 -- at spin 64
    31 -- at spin 69
    56 -- at spin 79
    60 -- at spin 110
    66 -- at spin 139
    88 -- at spin 152
    120 -- at spin 189

    The selected number is 9

    I'm still getting a different total... I did a check on it in excel and I got a total of 131... not that I think it matters, because I'm pretty sure this shouldn't work... :) Appreciate the work though.
     
  18. gizmotron

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    I have it quitting at 100+ for each test. Did you keep going? Or did you get 131 at spin 189?
     
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    The question is if it is possible to create a progression that goes deep enough to outrun the sequence of death that always kills all progressions. I wonder what would happen if I added more steps?
     
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    According to my sheet it didn't go over 100 until the last hit due to the prog.

    Yeah that is always it, is that we often stick to a single number far too long. When you look at the distribution of when a number hits after a repeat it is 50% of the time by the 23rd spin. If it hasn't won by then it is probably time to move on.

    I still want to run a test on the last repeaters.

    I'm pretty sure Turbo uses a 1, 1, 5, 5, 15, 30 progression of some sorts... which I think is interesting. It is a positive progression. He is so confident that the hitters are coming he pushes the limits. It is why he has such an interesting bankroll graph. It is so choppy, but he gets a crazy amount of units in so few spins.
     
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