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Roulette Roulette always wins - don't fight with it, accept it

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RatFaceFizzle, Apr 8, 2017.

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  1. AxelWolf

    AxelWolf Well-Known Member

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    I thought you said before you were not interested in making money from roulette and it wasn't about the money blah blah blah.
    Now suddenly you want to make 1 to 2k a day and don't want to blow it up.

    So if you made an average of 1.5k per day that would only be a little over 500k.

    If you truly had a system that could make you 1k to 2k per day you would be foolish not to find someone with more money resources and organized than you and prove to them your shit works. They would pay you more than what you could make in a year of playing.

    Let's not forget all the attention you would get for doing something no one else has been able to do. It would just be a matter of choosing who to do your first interview with and who's going to publish all your books and manage your websites etc. etc.
     
  2. gizmotron

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    Look AxelWolf, you find me that person and I will give you a 20% finders fee if a deal closes escrow. In other words you would be paid in closing. I need to get paid after disclosing the secret. There has to be a consideration for getting compensated. I would tutor the recipient too. I'm putting the finishing touches on the validation sim. So It's ready to go. Part of the deal will be that once it is known by the gambling industry, that I do in fact get the credit for it. I will not go into a casino with it if I get enough. If you can get a really good deal, say 1 million dollars, then I will not use it myself, or disclose it to anyone else until it is discovered. Just the buyer will have it. You won't even have it. I'll have to look into selling a trade secret.
     
  3. Fossell

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    Lmao. This had brightened my evening a little at least.
     
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    I've heard junkies speaking more sense than you do.
    Why don't you pat yourself in the back and give us a fucking break?!
     
  5. gizmotron

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    That's a big fucking relief.
     
  6. TurboGenius

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    I still say to throw up a first place on the leader board at Parx - play mode and go from there.
    It should be no problem to do.
     
  7. gizmotron

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    I've never been there. How do you know that nobody can see your bets?
     

  8. TurboGenius

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    I don't know that - It's a flash style game. If they can or not isn't relevant to me - in a casino the dealer and pit boss and other players can see where I'm placing bets as well.
    If you're asking if other players can see your bets ? No. Just the leader board where the balances are (based on winnings, not balance).
     
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  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't need a Kewpie Doll for first place. I assure you that a flash app can interact with the casino's server and that it can flag the play of the first place player if the programmer wants it to. Money is the only points system that people will respect.
     
  10. AxelWolf

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    20% of zero is how much? Because I'm 10000% certain you can't prove you have a winning method. Apparently, you think you are smarter than all others before you. There's really no difference between you and the voodoo magic fortune teller BS IMO.
     
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    That sounds like one incredible excuse "not" to show that you are being legit with your claim.
    So, that's enough for me.
    They don't care who's in first or by how much because it's not real money - it's RNG and random.
    It's no different than running something on a simulation and showing it works. First place on the leader board
    would certainly show something has merit.
    But that's your choice. To not at least safely demonstrate it's results means you're avoiding exposing the obvious.
    Case closed in my opinion.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Hey, if this closes the case that's fine with me.

    I just created the app so that each spin is tracked with proof in the telemetry. It proves the bet selection process is the reason that it wins at the rate that it wins. It loads real spins from comma delimited lists and runs them too. It proves that it beats real spins. It beats Roulette at a rate that is undeniable. It makes new bet selections as it goes.

    So anyone can read the spin by spin data and validate it for themselves. It all adds up with simple arithmetic. I don't need to prove it to anyone. I just need to go get what I want to get from it and then show it off in a year or two. If I were to pull down huge wins every time I went into a casino then that would be the end real soon and you all would soon have your worthless holy grail because of it. It's a simple plan. Sorry if all you have is nothing and too late.

    I could have been quite about it. I'm just adding to Turbo's revelations that now two have something. I suggest you look deeper. He put a lot of info out there.
     
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    I knew you were going to say that too.
     
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    BULLSHIT. You could simply go to bigger casinos around the world and bet big. Just hit each one for a significant amount of money. You could even Mix in some non-winning play strategy for cover. Take a long break and do it again. But whatever, I'm willing to make a side bet with you regarding all of this.
     

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    I actually plan to do some losing as I get the ball rolling at four casinos. I'll give you that notion of betting against my claims too. It's exactly what I would do. It sounds exactly like I would be just as skeptical. It's the position I have taken for years. I know I can't change a thing. What bothers me is that this has been right in front of me for more than 7 or 8 years. Telemetry does not lie. It proves each step of the process and validates that the system is executing correctly. What's more it acted exactly the same in live play. So, the only bullshit that can never be resolved here and now is that this is yet another claim that has not gone through proper peer review.

    Which begs the obvious question, why did I share the claim if I was not willing to openly validate it? I just wanted Turbo to know that I have decided to believe his claim.

    Now that I have done that it would be a good idea to stop making unconfirmed claims.
     
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    In a year or two you are going to be saying,"In a year or two." It's the same thing you have been saying from day one. You keep pretending you have this new revelation and something big to add to the world of gambling. It's all devised just to get some kind of sick attention. You keep trying to string people along, but people think you are a complete joke. You don't even believe in it, or yourself. You are nothing but a crappy wannabe showman and a carnival barker using roulette as your main attraction. No one remotely relevant is buying it. I have no clue if you are actually able to fool some desperate foolish people, but certainly not anyone remotely gambling savvy.

    Anyone that actually thinks you might have something is very gullible. I hope they smack themselves in the head and realize they are being played like fools.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    PS, my school of trend following is closed to new students. It has been for months. It's still a solid skill and is open to all the students.
     
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    I have a system that will give you great cover and force a loss. It's foolproof... Just take everyone's Roullet betting systems and use them one by one. You are sure to lose.
     
  19. gizmotron

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    So now you claim you are The Amazing Kreskin. My favorite scam is telling people to watch for the Elegant Patterns. I'm so happy that you ignore that advice.
     
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    I'm glad to see you admit you have more than one scam.
     

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