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Roulette Roulette always wins - don't fight with it, accept it

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RatFaceFizzle, Apr 8, 2017.

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  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Reading randomness is not a scam. It was freely given away to the world. The school was to make sure that at least 10 people knew exactly how to use it. It works. It just not working as good as my new secret. Now that is not a scam. It's a plan to get me a better retirement and to do it before it is too late. Now "too late" is a kind of mercy mission where you forum flies are put out of your misery. You are not expected to do anything. You don't buy anything, you don't get anything for nothing, and all you can do is watch it happen. So go howl at the moon -- wolf.

    I've said enough. There is no point carrying this on.
     
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  2. BlueAngel

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    Here is something nice from your country, consider it as a gift.


    What else do you know? Speak!
     

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  3. RatFaceFizzle

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    I agree with you. It doesn't change the math. Playing in casinos is always -EV. It gives me an illusion that I can be a winner sometimes.;)
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    Your generosity is amazing. It was also mighty nice of you to send your only son to die on the cross and rise three days later. Thank you for the freely given gifts that you have bestowed upon us.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You know where you can go. :eek:

    You can squirm around the deck with the rest of the rats on the Titanic.
     
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    Geez Gizmo, you are again in "euphoria" element. I hope this time you will not be disappointed again. You want to compare with TG, but so far you has not posted any graph yet, to show to the world that you can compare with Turbo.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Goin on a road trip. Don't need a graph. But that is a good idea. I'll add a graph to the presentation software. I just use hard data and math. Don't want to explain the win rate. That would be too good of a clew.
     

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    We all loves a graph ;-)
     
  9. Bombus

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    I know that as a system player, no matter what you think you have unravelled it all pivots upon the fulcrum of luck.
     
  10. TurboGenius

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    So is that the same for everything ? Science breakthroughs - Math breakthroughs - Inventions that change the world, etc, etc. It's all just based on "luck" and nothing else. Strange, it doesn't seem that way.
    I just had a funny thought of the Wright brother's landing their plane and someone says "whatever.... they just got lucky". lol
     
  11. BlueAngel

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    How about the pivot system and the HG by buffster??
     
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    Hypothetically speaking, if I bet after an event which occurs on average once per 144 spins and lose only from an event happening once per 248,832 spins then my net would be: 248,832 / 144 = 1728 - loss, am I wrong to have positive expectation?
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is the deal with genius. All a so called genius or ingenuity of discovery is is a person discovering something that has always been the truth. They are labeled a genius just because they saw it first. But it had always been the truth. Now, inventing the internet from nothing. That was genius.

    I'm the second person on this forum saying that the math has been broken. The notion that the house has an absolute edge over the player is done. Roulette and Craps is in a death spiral. Sooner than later it will be discovered. It's human nature to wreck everything. I'm not in any hurry and it looks like TurboGenius is not either. Now those that figure it out can join the ranks of the unwashed, until that time that nothing is hidden at least.
     
  14. BlueAngel

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    In general I agree but do you mean that the same approach beats 2 different games??
     

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    No that's not the same for everything TG, and you know it.. but for games of chance, well yes they just got lucky.
     
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    I have built my whole successful strategy of play around being lucky as opposed to being clever.

    But I am clever. So even though my strategy is successful, I freely admit it only wins due to luck.

    If you can't grasp the concept of luck or coincidence or whatever you prefer to call it being of paramount importance for games of chance then you really have little hope of long term success as a system player.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    I've moved on past luck or coincidental opportunity. It works, and it's a lot of work.
     
  18. gizmotron

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    Yes.
     
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    "Games of chance" should be a math equation really, to be honest each game his it's own math that runs it and favors the house due to unbalanced payout/odds of winning. The same with "luck". You can't display "luck" in any math equation, it doesn't exist. (The house "edge" is so small that it's not that hard to overcome with the right progression - etc etc etc - as I've said it all before, math beats a math game)
     
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    You've just scratched the surface of a much greater matter.
    House edge is not why we could lose, as a matter of fact, HE is so trivial a simple progression could overcome it easily.
    The main reason of our wins and losses is variance, it's unpredictable because of the irregular distribution effect.
    Just imagine, if in the real roulette world would happen what probability theory indicates, even close it, we'd not have any problem to use simple progressions with relatively minor bankroll and win every single time!
    But here comes the variance demon as a double dealing bastard and on one hand could help you for a while but if you trust him he would betray you sooner or later!
    Unpredictable variance makes our gambling life hard, of course there is nothing like certainty but there are tendencies to follow..!
    I consider house edge as tax on my profit, successful enterprises do not fail because of the taxes, everyone has to pay it but not everyone in profit...
     

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