Roulette Random explained - somewhat

Not true.

A single spin has a negative expectation but a group of spins may not.

Certain group of spins rely on past spins to make it’s bet selection.

Certain group of spins do not rely on random and can therefore increase the accuracy of your bets.

It’s simple math.

The simple math is called Van De Waerden Theory.

It is a group of 9 spins.

It relies on past spins.

It increases the accuracy of your predictions.

And it can have a positive expectation.

What I get out of Turbo’s thread is that a group of spins is a better way to base your bets on rather than on a single spin and I agree.

 

Nickmsi,

Prove it. Show us the math that supports your absurd claims. Demonstrate how past spins reach forward in time to influemce the future probability. Provide us with some examples.

 

Be happy to but I don't want to hijack Turbo's thread so I will start another topic just on this Math Theorem.

 

Im all ears (well, eyes) Nick. Sounds good. Start one up.

 

Oh rrreallly, do tell! Lol.

 

If stupidity had a face it would be yours!

"The best way to realize how law of thirds works is by observing Gizmo joggling 3 apples, 1 of them always in the air, you see just 2 hands but 3 apples...'' BlueAngel

 

Someone who dares to say that a spin that is already spun and its outcome is known is not a past spin and and keep a straight face, should be ridiculed and banned for life. This is not some misunderstanding or a difference of opinions. He is intentionally distorting roulette definitions and reality and fools newbies. I don't know why he is doing it. Maybe to sell his system or to promote himself.
But he certainly can't be that ignorant, to clam that:

Your odds are 1:37 in each and every spin, because none knows if in the next spin we will have a repeater or not. You must be an idiot to think otherwise!

 

It must be very useful to certain folks that the admin claims no knowledge of gambling, and therefore also claims ignorance of the quality of the gambling claims. The larger question is whether the admin claims an even greater ignorance of probability and math itself. It logically follows that the site may comfortably allow claims to clairvoyance, mind-reading, and curing cancer under the auspices of the admin having no expertise in those fields. All in the service of being "uncensored."

Thank God there are so few readers.

 

Proving that you didn't even read what you quoted me saying. And I'm the idiot ? Strange.
At least one thing holds true - people that don't get it will never get it. People that do - do.

 

Somebody seem to suggest earlier in the thread, Turbogenius choose to answer which question carefully based on what to answer. Turbogenius, if you really want people to know what you are saying and it is not a puppetry you are playing please answer this question. There are lots of differences here which will go if you answer this question. If you fail to answer this simple question, this is nothing more than an egoistic claim to gain some followers wrongly. If you do then at least it will prove that your intentions are right here. Someone who has gone lengths to share something he has found will definitely give an answer if the claim is genuine.

 

Members;
Why are you attacking TG ???
He is genuine and he already told you too much. It is our problem if we not understand him, so it is really no need to attack someone else for our own faults. Remember: there are ONLY two players on the world who know that system!!! Question is only WHO is second one. TG should know him ;-)

 

No one is attacking , people just asking question. Where you get too much? This system was described by mr. J long before "catch the 8 train." The new cover of the book is that aggressive progression.and one more thing he only answer to the people who talk rubbish. And the people who ask constructive question related to the system dont get answer.do you think that all the member writing here dont understand this system?? This one wins may be wins more than lose but not every single time.

 

I can see this member asked a very nice question. Where is the response??

 

This so true. Otherwise some people could not get away with so much BS and distortion of facts and definitions.

TG, I read perfectly what you're saying. You said:

And I replied:

It does not get clearer a difference than this. Now you say I misunderstood your statement?

Jefra or any other hardcore TG fan, I ask you a straight question and I (don't) expect a straight answer.
A spin that is already spun and its outcome is known is a past spin or not?
Irrelevant whether it belongs to the... "current" or a... "past" session, if you know the outcome it is by definition a past spin.
Does or does not each and every number has in each and every spin 37:1 odds? Are non repeaters somehow excluded from the possibility of hitting?
Is there anyone who can seriously support TG claims on such matters? How can he get away with such misleading claims and none calling him out? TG posts are bait for total newbies and I don't want to think what he will do with the fish he catches.

 

A muscle memory if you will.

 

I think even TG's supporters are staying largely silent now. Even the most math challenged among them realise he's posting obvious drivel.

I love the title of this thread: "random explained - somewhat". More "somewhat" than "explained", lol. Perhaps the "somewhat" was a get-out clause.

 

Yes.
Read it slower perhaps.
If I'm playing for a number to repeat - then a number that hasn't shown yet isn't a potential winning number,
the only potential winning numbers are ones that have shown once - there aren't 37 of them.
You are making a statement that has nothing to do with what you quoted me saying.

To those so confused by the "past spin" hangup - it's a session of spins.
You'd be pretty silly to get in a car to go on a trip, then after an hour turn onto another road to get
to your destination and say "That road we just turned off of was our "past trip - this is a new trip".
No, it's all part of the trip that you are on - you don't take each individual stop sign and then declare "New trip !" It's a whole that is made up of the spins that you are playing for that session.
If you don't understand that, then join the "roulette is just 1 spin" club - who never will understand how a method or system can win "over a session" when you don't win each and every spin.
Speaking of trip - VACATION !!!!!!!!! Finally. I'll see everyone when I get back. A beach is calling.

 

Correct

Actually, no. I don't have to explain every detail to anyone. I put people on the right path - they can argue about it and tell me I'm full of SH*T - I'm fine with that. Do the work based on what you've been shown - you'll figure out exactly what I'm saying as well.

My intentions have always been what they are. I've never sold systems, scammed anyone, tricked anyone or done anything to promote myself as anything other than what I say. If you need something to convince you of that - there's not much else I can do.

Exactly. It's been explained. The only problem is that people find it easier to keep throwing rocks instead of reading what's already written. In the hope that it will be all explained and spoon fed to them - so much easier that way.

 

My intention was to show that "random" rarely produces equality. When there isn't equality (numbers hitting more than other numbers) then that's where the advantage is. I had no intention of going into every explanation of "random" with examples and definitions. On the other hand - "you" have added nothing. I contribute. It's easy to sit in a chair and tell the coach of a team whatever you think he's doing wrong while you're not playing the game. How convenient. Make more posts explaining your views and people can debate those as well - which is what I have done. Or just keep butting heads with anyone who posts things that you don't understand.

 

We don't need a admin who knows all of that, we have YOU. So many "experts" who jump into a conversation without a clue as to what they are talking about and pound their chests, making themselves look like fools in the process.
I would assume that if the "admin" was a gambling/casino expert - he/she would probably be entirely supportive of what I've posted. The people who are giving the most grief over my posts are anti-system people, people without knowledge of math or the game, or AP players who simply can't believe that the answer isn't hiding behind a wobbling wheel that is harder to find than a unicorn, or a secret hidden computer that whispers the winning number in your ear when you tap your foot. What nonsense. But those people are the ones you will rally behind - THEY have the answers to your quest. It's laughable.