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Roulette How I play Roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mark V, May 13, 2017.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You know how to win using the global effect. I don't think so.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'll make it easy for you.

    Here is a swarm of sleeping dozens followed by a swarm of singles in 100 spins.

    Code:
    | 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P |
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 33
    |       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
    |-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
    | X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
    |       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
    | X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
    |    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    |    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
    |       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 26
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
    |       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    |       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
    | X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
    | X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
    | X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
    |    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
    |       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
    |    X    | X       |       X | P | -- 22
    |       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    |    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
    | X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
    |       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
    | X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
    |       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
    | X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
    | X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
    |    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
    |    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
    |       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
    | X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    |    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
    |    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
    |-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
    | X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
    |    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
    | X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
    |    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
    | X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
    | X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
    |       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
    |    X    | X       |       X | P | -- 22
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
    |       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
    |       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
    |    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
    | X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
    |    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    | X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
    |       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
    |    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
    | X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
    |    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
    |    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 13
    | X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
    |       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    | X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
    | X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
    |       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 26
    |    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 15
    |       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
    | X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
    |       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
    | X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
    | X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
    |       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
    |       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
    |    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 15
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
    |       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
    |    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 13
    
     
  3. TurboGenius

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    No thanks.

    No, I don't. I don't need to. I already win.
    I said "I already know how to win using it - I'm not curious."
    "it" was not your "global effect". "it" is the method that I'm using myself.
    I never said that I use your ideas or win using them. I use my own.
     
  4. gizmotron

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    You don't understand the global effect. Yet that qualifies you to trash it. That makes you a genius? You are a cliche' of what most people on gambling forums are really about. They are so consumed by their own interests that they won't bother to look at anything other than their own selfish interests. Congratulation. That makes you human. Sell to your fans.
     
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    I don't understand it, because I've never looked into it.
    I never had a need to. Rarely will I research what someone else has come up with.
    Can I judge against that which I don't know anything about then ? Well, maybe.
    I do know how the "game" works. Start a thread, explain it - have a go and people will
    make their own opinions. It's that easy.
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've done that many times over the past 10 or 11 years. People do what you do. If they think it has no benefit to them then they don't make any effort to understand it. They think they know what works and don't need to bother looking anywhere else. So they don't. But that does not stop them from trashing it. I think that this is even more telling than the fact that I've made it a free to understand concept. The one that gets everyone in a tizzy is the "Elegant Pattern." Billions of dollars have gone unclaimed because of this uninteresting topic. I marvel at the stupidity of people on the internet.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

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    You could always "make" the billions yourself and then laugh in the face of your critics.
    Actions speak louder than words - the problem with gambling claims is that it's mostly all words.
    Hopefully I can change that by displaying how something that can't lose can lead to amazing
    things. Telling people and showing them charts only goes so far.
    Showing it working against RNG spins doesn't work
    Showing it working against online live wheels with a dealer doesn't work.
    Maybe some deposit records from my bank accounts will work lol - maybe not.
    People are set in their ways, no matter what side of the isle they are on.
    It's of little value to convince someone who doesn't believe or understand how things
    work. (talking to myself lol).
     

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You really are a loser, you know that. I'm thinking about the millions of times perfect long length patterns happen and all the people that never see it happen right underneath their noses. You are one of those people. I'm done talking to you. You have used every excuse in the book not to bother with your tranquil and smug persuasions.
     
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    Gizmotron and Turbo? >>

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  10. TurboGenius

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    lol - Nah. I tried to be nice, it's not worth it.
    (and yes, I have to "try" to be nice considering the circumstances).
     
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    The odds of a particular number following any other number is the same: 2.7%. Learn math. ;-) But I do agree that betting on fewer numbers is better, only because the house edge doesn't bite so hard.

    You may not agree with Sir Anyone but at least he's consistent and doesn't try to argue that some way of picking numbers in the random game is better than any other way, whether it's TG's method or Gizmo's "global effect". And it seems to me that the "global effect" is just a way to get on what's currently "hot", just as TG's method does, so the strategies aren't so different after all.
     
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    Gizmo,

    So you had a "control" group and a "treatment" group right? That means you had some people betting using your "global effect" and others betting randomly. Please post your results (p-values and confidence intervals).
     
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    Gizmo

    Surely you have made a ton of money, right?
     
  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I didn't have a peer review research project. I had those that see the global effect and the rest of the world that does not. More important than all that it the fact that those in the know had a more important data set to follow. The effectiveness trend is the final word. You can have a perfect working global effect that still allows you to bet big bets at the wrong time. That's why you must include the actual real time effectiveness of your bets, as you go, in order to beat the casino consistently. There is no more important time in your research than in the actual moment. That experience is the only time that counts. So when you play for real, you are sitting in the control group where people know and see and don't know and see the global effect occurring. You have your data and effectiveness data all wrapped up in real-time. People think that global effect is a short termed, 10 to 15 spins event. It is not. It tends to be a 60 or more spin event, with mini events being as small as 30 spins. Global Effect events tend to be 95% pure with isolated characteristics reoccurring from 8 to 15 spins in duration each. I'm profoundly interested in why these states have been ignored for more than 200 years in the game of Roulette. Even more interesting are the people that are so sure it's nothing but sophistry in order to sell a book or a system. Here is a research project for you. Why are people so sure they know they are right? This forum is the control group. There are a few people that see the effect and there are many that don't. Above is a reoccurring streak of sleepers shifting around the chart. Nobody can see it. Yet it's right in front of their faces. There has never been an open discussion of the effect on any public forum. Yet the throng of experts with their uninformed opinions continues to dominate the brain trust of pseudo experts everywhere.

    If you had discovered a streak of sleeping dozens that lasted from 50 to 90 spins, could you use that brain of yours to figure out a way to exploit that streak? That is what is so amazing here. The why bother people with something new crowd is just an excuse following excuses phase. Keep it up. You guys are doing a great job of representing the blind leading the blind. It's all published on the net too. I've been experimenting with most of you for at least 6 years now. I will be amazed when the first one of you actually sees the global effect in action. It is no wonder most of you can't see it happen. Never has there been an open discussion on how to exploit one. All we have here is, TG has the holy grail, won't prove that he has it, and everything else is dog crap. That gets very old after four months of grandstanding.
     

  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Nope. I've been side tracked by a pet set of 18 numbers and guessing hot streaks of the effectiveness states. In other words I have not taken my own advice. I recognize it as problem gambling. If I have a winning session on day one I tend to go back on day two and get killed trying to beat roulette with the same pet numbers. In other words I try to force a win streak to happen. It just never works yet I have not been able to overcome it. It is only this last three sessions at the casino that I discovered it was actually 18 numbers and not the hot 12 numbers that I was stuck on.

    Have you ever heard me brag about how much I win? I'm a hypocrite giving strategic bet selection advice while I can't do it myself. I'm not afraid to fail. I've spent my entire life failing before I've succeeded. My rock climbing, ski extreme, music, golf, windsurfing, piloting, building, programming, and gambling periods have all started in failure. In every one of those fields of expertise I started out as a failure. Why should this period be any different.

    You can ignore chained characteristics, perfect long lasting patterns, and targeted win streaks tell time comes to an end. Why should I care? I'm too busy making an ass of myself trying to make something of it. I will beat this weakness or I will quit altogether. That will not stop the world from recognizing what I call these three conditions. They may call it something else. I could care less. All I care about is not being hammered by 18 numbers I have allowed to wreck my plans. My only interest is in staying focused and leaving those distractions behind for good. There is a good chance that I will succeed at this now that I can isolate the group. Nobody really does research on "the trend is your friend." One author of many books tried to, but he came up real short on what really is a very long topic. His name is John Patrick. He has no idea what a reoccurring characteristic is.
     
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    1. Learn a little basic probability.
    2. Stop making up bs terms that explain how people can win.
    3. Lay off the word salad, as you're not very good at it.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    1. Blow it out your a**.
     
  18. TurboGenius

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    Man, I haven't even started yet.
    Ok - I am posting my Parx results... 1 1/4 million dollars profit in a few weeks (I know, they cheat and everybody wins lol. It's all fixed of course right ? I mean no one else is up there where I am - how can that be when they let people win ??). Other than that (which isn't grandstanding, it's just posting results that back up what I'm telling people)- all I've posted is the path that people should be on. Just wait - July 1 starting at G.Nugget online and those results (live wheel and dealer) will be posted too. Whoah. If I hit 1 1/4 million in a few weeks (not going to happen) ?? then what ? I know - I got lucky. It's all nonsense.
    I'm serious though - start a thread, post results (hell, even play mode results that others can verify on the site), math, explanations, whatever you want and then people will take notice and the cricket sound will stop.
    And quit with the "I taught my "students" how to win and that's my proof" because it isn't.
    Simple.
     
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    Wow what does your pretend girlfriend think about your pretend wins? Be careful. Don't let her know how much you're winning or she'll run off with your pretend dough!
     
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    and yet no one else can do it.
    How gratifying.
     

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