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Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Mark V, May 31, 2017.

  1. Mark V

    Mark V Active Member Lineage to Founders

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  2. MrV

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    Wanting to learn more about who you really are and what your true agenda might be, I clicked on your site name at top left: "Vegas Craps Player."

    A link to Koganinja's dice control site came up, as well as a video of five dice tosses.

    Now, I'll be the first to admit that those tosses looked pretty as they flew through the air, with the identical faces in parallel, but really, WGAS?

    What matters is not how they look while soaring through the air, but how they react once they hit the felt.

    Why didn't the creator of the video show the entire progress of the shots, from beginning to end?

    The question of course is rhetorcial; I know why.

    It's because once they hit the table they bounce randomly.
     
  3. DeMango

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    Thank you MrV, you are like a fine tuned watch, always on time with the right answer! Through the years how much did Soblete pay you to denounce the physics and math of DI?

    By the way, an old friend from work actually quit the USPS and is now a worship leader at a Portland Church! I think you would be a great fit! I know all about getting rid of that Catholic religion and actually reading what The Bible does say. Say the word, and I will pass on more details. Life is short, we ain't getting younger, and after you 7 out, no Mormon's intercession will have any effect!
     
  4. MrV

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    What if I had the presence of mind to be wearing a pair of Magic Undergarments?

    Will that help?
     
  5. DeMango

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    If it's in The Book of Mormon, nope. If it's those vestments worn by your favorite priests, nah. Naked you come in, naked you go out. Get fire insurance!
     
  6. DeMango

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    Your friends and enemies on Craps Forum are having a hard time with your "Come to Jesus" moment! Your presence to straiten matters out is requested!
     
  7. DeMango

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    Marks last visit May 31. All our posts are meaningless.
     

  8. $nakeEye$

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    Do YOU think possibly that he " pulled the trigger " -

    If so - then YES - ALL is meaningless !

    $...eE..$
     
  9. DeMango

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    He did "like" a post on CF, so yes, still alive!
     
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  10. $nakeEye$

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    He wanted to " meet up " at the Palms a few weeks back -

    I opted to " politely decline " due to his attitude regards DI / DC , etc.

    He and I - according to HIS postings - do NOT see " eye to eye " as one might say -

    Hence, there was NO reason to " Meet and Greet " each other !

    $...eE..$
     
  11. DeMango

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    There has been controversy about his new views on DI. You actually MAY see eye to eye! The posts in question are here somewhere or on CF, or both.
     
  12. Mark V

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    DeManngo and et all....

    I actually read this board and the CrapsForum board everyday. Mostly I skim though the trite stuff, and read anything that seems interesting or potentially useful.


    As for Dice Influence goes...
    I have always stated that that Dice control (also known as Dice influence) is possible but only on certain tables, and from people who have way above average eye-hand control and who practice significantly (as such as owning a table at their home). What Heavy and Howard teach over at Power Axis Crap is a scam, in that they claim that ANYONE CAN CONTROL THE DICE, and can achieve ADVANTAGE PLAY at any table that they belly up to; and that is simply untrue due to the super bouncy tables that are now the normal all over Las Vegas. I do not consider Short Throws, that being a toss that does not hit the backwall, as such as what Howard is the master of, as Dice Influence - rather i call that sort of tossing CHEATING, and the casino does as well.

    I have hooked up with local Dice coaches who agree with my statement, in that any DI candidate needs to have an already heightened eye-hand coordination, and the ability to develop that as in having a table at home to develop in on. Lacking those two elements, there is simply no hope of a person tossing the dice with any de-randomizing effect on the dice.


    Naysayers, curmudgeons and Trolls.....
    Among salesmen there is a saying

    "Those that hate the hustle, are those who given up on the hustle"

    This also applies to casino gaming as well, in that many have given up on trying to win at the casinos and now just play for recreation and personal enjoyment. I simply now refuse to engage in dialog with those people who stamp their feet and state that "YOU CANNOT WIN" and openly attack anyone who is actually trying to win at the casino.


    Stupid shit...
    The issue of the Stolen Craps Table that is being hyped up by one particular person on the CrapsForum is only telling half the story, and twisting conclusions to vent his anger out. I know the full story of what is gong on because I was personally involved in much of what happened. Stupid Drama is it is!

    Anyone who claims to have found the Holy Grail of gambling, is BULLSHITTING. There is not any method that works all the time. I see a lot of stupid shit about this on this board and others. The only way to win at the casinos is to grind away at low house edge table games where you have a near 50/50 shot at winning. Keep your wins unlimited by your loses checked.


    Flame wars...
    This is the entertainment of the Curmudgeons and Trolls. They simply will state that a particular members is short and lacking in some areas and then have their fun with the targeted person, as they emotionally reacts to such statements made. Why the system admins permit it is beyond me. These boards should be about supporting and helping our fellow gamblers, and not a feeding ground for the Curmudgeons and Trolls!


    Online casinos....
    Unless regulated by a Real Governmental body with real teeth, in that if the operators cheat or steal that there will be actual consequences and the victims can sue them in governments courts, then such online casinos simply have a license to cheat and steal from those duped to actually deposit money in them.


    Tribal casinos...
    They simply have a license to cheat and steal from you! Just know that when you walk in to such a casino, you are in their world and subjected to their laws and their mercy and generosity (if any).


    Pro Gamblers....
    Yes, there are people here in Vegas that make a living gambling. Is it easy? No. Can anyone do it? No.
    Most people who try are way under bankrolled and lack discipline, and thus get caught playing when they should not be, and gaming where they have no real hopes of winning. Those who thrive on gambling have a basket of games and methods they use, and the discipline to not play when the odds are not on their side.

    About me....
    Nobody comes to Las Vegas as a Pro Gambler. It takes time to learn how things here work and how to use what the casinos setup to ones own advantage. I have been in Vegas now since November 2016 and it has taken a while for me to figure out how to maneuver though the casino systems and how they have set up things, what loopholes they use to take the advantages of, and what they leave exposed.
     
  13. oopsididitagain

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    And the prize for the longest (useless) post in yet another (useless) thread goes to... the guy with a gun to his head.

    Gosh, after it's all said and done, there's only talk about nothing. And misery loves company.
     
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  14. $nakeEye$

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    Just a short while ago I had the UNFORTUNATE opportunity to view select videos posted by Mr. Mark V -

    Suffice it to say that YOU are TOTALLY WRONG in your mistaken assumption that HE and I MAY see eye to eye -

    " NO WAY , JOSE " - is MORE like it and MOST apropos !

    I could elaborate - BUT - as I was taught in my younger days -

    IF you can NOT say ANYTHING GOOD about a person - Then say NOTHING at all !

    So, in light of the above sage advice -

    MY LIPS are SEALED !


    $...eE..$
     

  15. DeMango

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    So lets see the videos! Link???
     
  16. AxelWolf

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    Let's just hope you were learning in dog years.

    Without giving away too much detail, can you share with us what types of loopholes you are referring too?

    It sounds pretty and all, but anyone can make such a statement and convince people who really have no clue about real AP that they know something.

    I know some good AP's who actually believe in DI, yet they are never at the craps tables.
     
  17. $nakeEye$

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    The link is provided in post #1 of this topic above !

    $...eE..$
     
  18. DeMango

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    Thanks Snake. Happy Anniversary!
     
  19. Heavy

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    Obviously I am late to the party responding to this post, which gives you an idea about how often I check in on this forum. In fact, I rarely post on forums other than my own since the majority are essentially unmoderated and they are not suited for civil discourse. To that end, I'll just start this off on a level Mark will understand. You, sir, are a lying sack of shit. We do NOT claim that ANYONE can control the dice. In fact, I have stated MANY times that only about 20% of the people who undertake learning dice influence will succeed. Not because they lack the needed hand eye coordination - but because they (1) will not practice, (2) bought into an incorrect technique from some dickwad scammer who does not know what the hell he's doing, or (3) will not give up bad betting strategies that bleed their bankrolls dry.

    We do not teach tosses for bouncy tables in our basic classes, however, there are throws that are suited for that type of table and from time to time we run an advanced class for alumni students to teach alternate tosses and advanced betting strategies. Neither of these will guarantee you a win on such tables. However, they will improve your odds. Will most people win on those tables? No. Why? See those three items I listed in the above paragraph.

    Regarding your comments about Howard being a master of the short throw. Seriously? And you've taken how many classes with Howard where this was taught? I've known Howard for almost 20 years. We do 4 - 6 classes together per year and often together in between classes to hit the tables in Biloxi, Tunica, and Shreveport/Bossier. I've yet to see him TRY to short roll the dice. Every toss we teach is designed to get the dice to the back wall. Any claims you make to the contrary are simply lies from a guy who's jealous of other's success.

    Got a problem with the above? Tough shit. Go drive your piece of crap Uber car around and see if you can scrape together enough for a $20 buy in at Joker's Wild.

    Have a nice life as another loser in Vegas.

    ~Heavy

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    Note: My next seminar in Shreveport/Bossier is SOLD OUT
    The next seminar with openings available is in Las Vegas the weekend of October 13th. For more information feel free to e-mail me at [email protected].
     
  20. Heavy

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    A note on my note above. The Shreveport/Bossier class I mentioned is the weekend of October 13th. The next Vegas class is Veteran's Day Weekend, November 10th - 13th. On Veteran's Day weekend we do a "Crapsfest" event that includes craps training and live sessions. There is a charge for these sessions. But on Monday, the day after the Crapsfest event, we host a live casino session for Veterans and active duty U.S. Military members at no charge. IF you have a DD-214 or an active Military ID you can hook up with the coaches from the weekend's class and we'll play a live casino session at a casino to be announced. Those of you interested in this can e-mail me at [email protected] for more info and to get on the attendee list. Please put "Veteran's Day Session" in your subject line to help us filter out the SPAM.

    ~Heavy

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