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    Narcissists, Liberals, And False Reality – An Example

    Posted on April 9, 2013 by Anonymous Conservative

    There is a great article in the Wall St Journal that highlights a
    bizarre trait of Narcissists and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as
    well as how it manifests in Liberalism. The story describes a flap
    between the President of Bowdoin and a Wall Street investor turned
    philanthropist named Thomas Klingenstein. They played a game of golf,
    and in the course of it, a dispute arose over Bowdoin’s teaching of
    diversity. Much of the reality behind the article will go over
    people’s heads, but if you understand Narcissists and Narcissistic
    Personality Disorder, you will see commonalities in your own
    experiences.

    Narcissist
    Are Narcissists obsessed with themselves, or obsessed with avoiding
    any anxiety regarding themselves? Anxiety is the motivator, not
    desire.

    Basically, Klingenstein told the President of Bowdoin that Bowdoin
    should spend more time teaching what commonalities in our history
    bring Americans together, rather than focusing so much of its efforts
    on racial, gender, and class differences which separate us. It is such
    a beautiful concept, it is hard to imagine why Bowdoin’s President
    wouldn’t warmly embrace it, let alone why he ended up castigating
    Klingenstein as some racist heathen when he recreated the discussion
    months later for a speech. In the Bowdoin President’s version, he was
    endlessly assailed by a rabid racist, until he finally walked off in
    despair.

    Since grassroots Conservative ideologues don’t tend to think like
    Liberals or Narcissists, our first response is to view the President
    of Bowdoin as a lying jackass, who just makes things up. He knows what
    happened, because he was there, so he must be lying. But in my
    experience, this might not be so. Narcissists very often have a very
    tenuous grip on reality, and here, I think the President of Bowdoin
    may have very little idea of exactly what happened during that golf
    outing, even as he is completely sure that he was assailed by a
    radical racist.

    As I explained in the fractured amygdala, both Liberals and
    Narcissists appear to have hyper-sensitive amygdalae. The amygdala is
    a brain structure which scans incoming stimuli, looks for stimuli
    which appear “bad,” for lack of a better term, and then the amygdala
    gives us an unpleasant “brain pain,” until the bad stimuli is
    addressed in a way which renders it less-noxious. Maybe the “bad”
    stimuli is a tiger about to eat us, in which case our amygdala gives
    us an unpleasant aversive stimuli, until we escape, and the tiger is
    no longer a threat. Maybe we have a deadline for a project, in which
    case the amygdala haunts us until we finish it, and then it turns off.

    In my experiences with Narcissists, their amygdala is so sensitive to
    anxiety, that just telling them any information which bothers them
    sets it off like a nuclear bomb, forcing them into an immediate state
    of denial of the offending stimuli, to try and short-circuit the
    “brain pain.” Tell a Narcissist something he doesn’t want to hear, and
    it is like spraying pepper spray from a fire extinguisher into his
    face. He won’t listen to the entire idea, consider it, and then reject
    it, like we would. Instead, the Narcissist will begin to get the
    faintest whiff of what you are saying, identify it as bad, and then he
    will close his eyes, hide his head, and wave his arms while screaming,
    until you are finished.

    I have literally spent several minutes explaining some totally neutral
    technical topic to a Narcissist (a topic the Narcissist needed to
    understand in order to accomplish a task), only to finish, and then
    have the Narcissist proceed to explode in rage and attack me for
    criticizing him. As the conversation progressed, I discovered that the
    Narcissist thought that because I was telling him about something, I
    was implying he didn’t understand it, and therefore, he was stupid.
    Just that hint of a possibility of criticism at the beginning caused
    him to ignore everything I told him, after the first sentence. He
    literally didn’t hear a word, because he thought I was implying that
    he was ignorant of the topic. He was, however, certain that the rest
    of the conversation had consisted of me continuing to humiliate him
    for not knowing what I was describing. Even though he wasn’t listening
    to the technical information I was dispensing, and could not recall
    anything I said, his brain filled in the informational void for him
    with me castigating him for being stupid.

    Of course, in a typically comedic twist, he actually didn’t understand
    the topic, and really needed to know what I was saying. However, as a
    Narcissist, he reflexively thought his ignorance was shameful. As a
    result, all he could see at the very beginning was my assumption he
    didn’t know it, so he exploded, assuming I was shaming him (something
    he assumed because that was probably something he would have enjoyed
    doing in similar circumstances).

    I got around all of this with him by explaining that I wasn’t
    criticizing him, but was rather just telling him a “special” piece of
    knowledge I happened to learn by accident (and which he couldn’t
    possibly have known). Using this ploy, his Narcissistic amygdala
    booby-trap bomb was disarmed, and I could then re-explain what he
    needed to know, with most of what I said being absorbed, since I had
    made it clear that I wasn’t criticizing him, and indeed, he was beyond
    threat of criticism since he couldn’t know what I was about to tell
    him.

    What was amazing was how once the Narcissist thought I was being
    critical of him, due to that first sentence, he would not process a
    single piece of information after that. He literally could not hear or
    process a single word. Once their amygdala is triggered, they cannot
    listen, so you could tell such a Narcissist that aliens from space
    were invading, and point to an alien behind him, and later all they
    would recall was how mean you were to them.

    The funny thing about all of it is, your idea doesn’t have to actually
    be noxious to the Narcissist. The first sentence you say just has to
    have the faintest appearance of an idea he doesn’t want to hear, at
    the very beginning, when you relate it. If you want to do this, imbue
    the line with some psuedo-criticism, like an assumption they don’t
    know something, a mistake they made, some way someone else is better
    than them, or something funny about them. They will not listen from
    that point forward, and you will get an out-pouring of Narcissistic
    rage afterward.

    Liberals, have a slightly more well-developed way to protect their
    amygdala. Liberals have developed several memes, which they will
    reflexively fall back on to shoehorn you and your statement into a
    patently negative light, thereby letting them intellectually justify
    ignoring everything you say. Each meme is almost like a programming
    subroutine, to allow them to ignore your argument and any cognitive
    dissonance it might produce, while still feeling intellectually
    superior, and correct in their reasoning. With Liberals, if the
    Liberal’s amygdala thinks the idea might possibly, maybe, be noxious
    in some way, they will immediately classify it as
    racist/homophobic/stupid/Conservative/etc., and they will not hear a
    single word you say after that.

    From that point forward, their amygdala will fire off, and the
    Liberal/Narcissist will not listen, to protect themselves from the
    agony of amygdala anxiety, just as they would shut their eyes as you
    begin to fire pepper spray at them.

    Here, in this case, Klingenstein mentioned diversity, and sounded
    vaguely critical at the outset, and Bowdoin’s President made the jump
    to classifying him as a racist who wanted to kick all the minorities
    out of the school. Once that happened, the President of Bowdoin did
    not hear a single word Klingenstein said after that, no matter what is
    was. In the President’s head, everything was some racist remark, and
    he just patiently endured them until he finally walked off in despair,
    “because you can’t reason with a racist.” He genuinely believes all of
    that, because that is what he remembers, even if he doesn’t remember a
    single phrase or idea Klingenstein said to him (which I am sure he
    doesn’t).

    (It should be noted, if attempting an amygdala hijack, and your
    opponent successfully meme-ifies you in their mind, your hijack will
    fail, because they will no longer be listening. In such a case, you
    must de-meme-ify yourself in their head, by identifying how they
    meme’d you, and then showing exactly how wrong they are using pure
    logic, in an argument made to the crowd of observers watching. Once
    you are no longer racist, etc. to the crowd, they look silly for
    thinking that, and they are back paying attention, continue to
    out-group and humiliate, in a calm and reasoned fashion.)

    Of course, when asked, the professors of Bowdoin don’t see themselves
    as partisan, at all. From the article:

    “A political imbalance [among faculty] was no more significant than
    having an imbalance between Red Sox and Yankee fans,” sniffed Henry
    C.W. Laurence, a Bowdoin professor of government, in 2004. He added
    that the suggestion that liberal professors cannot fairly reflect
    conservative views in classroom discussions is “intellectually
    bankrupt, professionally insulting and, fortunately, wildly
    inaccurate.”

    Perhaps so. But he’d have a stronger case if, for example, his
    colleague Marc Hetherington hadn’t written the same year in Bowdoin’s
    newspaper that liberal professors outnumber conservatives because
    conservatives don’t “place the same emphasis on the accumulation of
    knowledge that liberals do.”

    To acknowledge they might be partisan would be to trip their
    amygdalae, with the prospect of being inferior. This is why all debate
    with Liberals comes down to childhood, “Yes you are!,” “No I’m not!”
    debate. There is no reasoning, or ability to consider facts.

    If Klingenstein wants to screw with Bowdoin, then he should challenge
    every professor there to take the Narcissistic Personality Inventory
    Test. It is a nice, non-partisan test which will reveal any
    personality disorders among the staff. Since nobody at Bowdoin could
    possibly have a personality disorder, nobody should object to taking
    this simple test.

    I think Conservatives have to understand the difference between r and
    K-strategies in r/K Selection Theory, to fully grasp this.
    Conservatism is an ideology, which at its most polar extreme, is
    designed for a world where in order to feed our families, we have to
    kill other people, and take their food. That means that before acting,
    we need to very carefully take in every piece of information,
    scrutinize it, and then plan our attack in a detailed fashion. If we
    fail to accurately mold our behavior to reality, we will die. If we
    fail to consider a piece of evidence because we don’t like it, we will
    die.

    Liberals are designed for an r-selective world with resources
    everywhere, where when confronted with a potential threat, they
    immediately run as fast as they can to a new place, without looking
    back. If there is a threat, and you fail to run, you die. If you run,
    but there wasn’t a threat, there is no penalty. As a result, you are
    best served by being overwhelmingly panicked at the mere possibility
    of threat. This is the difference between the psychologies of the wolf
    and the rabbit, and it was produced very carefully in our species,
    over eons of selection. In humans, it speaks to a wide gulf between
    our methods of cognition, and our behavioral instincts.

    We cannot talk to Liberals, and reason with them, wolf to wolf. If
    ever we are going to communicate, we will need to learn how to slip
    information past their amygdala, and that will require a better
    understanding of this bizarre psychological state.
     
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