Baccarat Beat The Casino Forum Opinion

Anyone here a member at the Beat The Casino Forum? If so, I surely would like to ask your opinion of why NOBODY there responds to my emails. I have emailed Keith, Steve and the Webmaster repeatedly going on two weeks now to no avail.

I don't get it????? They say they can't imagine why everyone is not lining up to pay for their systems and Forum access. Wondering if this might be the clue???

I'm not bashing anyone, but rather tying to make sense of a very odd non-responsive situation.

Thank goodness GamblingForums.com has been a great experience here so far!

 

Beatthecasino.com forum is nothing but a place designed to not to earn from beating casinos but its paying members. There is no debate even having 1% substance. They periodically have newest systems while none of their prior systems have worked. If you ask them why your systems should work, they do not have any answer. A simple simulation can disprove them.

 

Thanks for your response. Yes, I noticed they seem to always have another system but always seem to point back to the base NOR approach. My best guess is each "system" is related to the card dealing methods. I thought everywhere was factory pre-shuffled these days. So why the need for anything but one approach/system?

 

Are you a member there?

Idpa

 

Yes, I joined there but found nothing worth reading or even looking at. They only have new and newer methods with new layers of fantasies and fallacies, for sale. Join them and you will receive regular newsletters on your email. They are again into preaching patterns and streaky and choppy shoes that we all know for ages, do not work, at all.

 

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific.

Are you a member of their private forum or only the public one? I understand that anyone can join the public side but it requires a payment to join the private side.

I just wanted to make sure of where your frame of reference was coming from. I did join the public forum with no problem.

Idpa

 

I do have many of his past stuff like NOR and all. They lack anything that should work. Recently they had out of world claim of "Million dollar baccarat", that is nothing but utter nonsense. I can never think of joining his paid private forum or any of his systems. I can rather teach him.

 

I refuse to pay for their private forum. Haven't really seen any benefit from the free side.

 

In other words, you are NOT a member of his private forum and all of your "experience" is from second hand hearsay and the like.

It's kind of what I expected from you.

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You speak too loud that doesn't match with the standards of knowledge that you have. I know too much of this man than you can think. His basic methodology is based on playing trends and patterns and idiotic progressions. All of these are proven failures. No room for further investigations for a sensible person. Are you from his sales team? If you know any positive sides, let us all know.

 

I think there are plenty of positives, to those that can recognize and utilize them to their advantage, as I have stated numerous times. That doesn't mean Ellis's methods are THE best or above anyone else.

You seem to most always speak out AGAINST anything posted here, yet I do NOT see you offer any positive comment or methods of your own.

I encourage you to share your methods and strategies here in a positive manner so that others can learn and share with you. If not, it seems to prove that YOU think you are the only person here that has all the answers and never shares them.

 

@Michael,
If you think "play this pattern" or "follow that trend" is sharing and helping all to become a better player, I am not into such help. I can tell you that only way of winning in gambling is to look for results in long run which is lesser volatile. Any strategy meant for fast earning in a couple of trials will kill only.

 

I always look for "long run" results. Can you define what these are to me and others here?

Seems to me that to be "less volatile" though, would mean to be in for the SHORT run...less vulnerability. Would that be a correct assumption?

 

Maybe this can help u understand the meaning of long run: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/19400636/Long-run-in-gambling#.VbRMFbOqqko

 

Thanks for the post and I better understand and agree.

My "pattern/trend" reference IS a long run result as well though. Meaning that I continuously approach a shoe in the same manner. If I don't, I will never know in the "long run" if my method is proving positive or negative.

 

There site is confusing to me and it seems the only way you can really join them is if you are willing to go to Vegas to take there trainings and classes..where they are not clear about the prices or dates, etc... What about if I want to join them without reading their books but want to be part of their forum? Does such an it's exist? I was a programmer math algorithms.

 

I was a member of their free forum a few yrs ago. Asked too many questions and got banned.

 

On Beat The Casino there is mention of a player named Norm Allen. He was able to win consistently by as strategy called 'follow the shoe'. Anyone know the method?

Thanks

 

Yes, but it was Norm's own play, not something that BTC came up with.

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