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Roulette A system can be proven to fail without testing it.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    FACT. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to test a system in order to prove that it's worthless.
     
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    Yes, you can say that any location's odds of appearing are greater than that location's payout on a win.
    Luckily on the opposite side of the coin we have a game we can play for multiple spins
    and "Random has limits", "Math beats a math game".
     
  3. asymbacguy

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    mmhhh yes, you have to test the wheels not the systems...
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Math doesn't beat the random game of roulette.
     
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    But it does.
    Watch the 60's video yet again - completely predictable yet completely random. Imagine that.
    The rest is math. Will numbers repeat ? Yes. I win. It's that simple.
     
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    Unfortunately the house payout is short of what the probability of winning says would be fair. So unfortunately your long term expectation is that you will become a net loser. When the long term expectation is a negative number then there's not an amount that you can bet that will make it a positive expectation.
     
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    Ah, not with that alone no. You are right. Betting "Red" every spin with some system is never going to work.
    However - there are other locations on the table and combinations that allow the player to put the math
    into their corner. Is it perfect ? Nope. Will you win every time (sessions) ? Yes.
     

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    Ermmm??? Are you sure about that? Check your math again, make sure you carried that one and all. ;)
     
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    Ermmm??? Are you sure about that? Check your math again, make sure you carried that one and all. ;)
     
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    Ermmm??? Are you sure about that? Check your math again, make sure you carried that one and all. ;)
     
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    It's this forum. It's really jacked up. Pages don't load half the time before the server times it out.
     
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    Prediction does:)
     
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    Problem is, you aren't Nostradamus. And even he would lose his ass at roulette!
     

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    Try me. Just for fun choose Red or Black and hold on to it and do not change it and then give me your answer precisely as follows:
    I chose Red or Black. What did I choose.
     
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    I'm not stupid enough to play roulette. Go find some other sucker!
     
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    Somebody say Roulette? I loved that game back in 1996. First thing I learned at the 0/00 tables is memorize the wheel and follow the bouncing ball... Did you know that Each corner of every twelve are all numbers surrounding the Double 00. I find it better to keep betting the Split 17/20 because those two numbers are "Hot, Hot, Hot"

    If you're gonna just bet the red or black, why not just play baccarat? no 0/00 to worry about.
     
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    This comment makes no logical sense whatsoever.

    This is a ROULETTE forum you just posted in, what the hell.

    I think it's time for a break. Every time I log in there's something more absurd to read than what was posted before.
    Maybe I'll write a book - that's probably a great idea actually.
    It would certainly keep me busy and would benefit everyone - not just people on roulette forums
    who mix "dice" with "balls" and can predict red and black - or people who hang out on a roulette board when they don't even play it. I can always explain everything in better detail that way, maybe even the pros can learn a thing or two.
    Surely the topics and comments posted on forums clearly show that people have NO idea what the game is and how it works - and certainly have no idea how to win.
    I promise the book won't contain.... "If you see 30, bet 2 because 2 always follows 30"
    Or "I don't know what past spins are, aren't they just every spin before this one ?" or
    "Post 20 spins and I'll tell you if I would have won or not".
    So it's decided, I'll do that. Maybe I'll even make it free - or donate profits to a charity.
     
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    I'll be the first to buy your book but if I were you I would sell it to Interblock company, just to name one of the most important gambling entities interested to know that roulette can be beaten.
     
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