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Roulette A simple question for Sir Anyone

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. bozadj

    bozadj New Member

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    Turbo and Gizmo, you probably revealed too much lol. Think about what Turbo said. And Gizmo is quite close — you don't need to bet on 24 numbers man, but you'll figure it out :)

    Dr. Sir Anyone, as far as I see, it's not enough to log into Roullete Extreme and get the money, only what you win is what it's counted. If it's that easy, do it yourself :)

    Turbo, does "24" mean anything to you and the way you play? If it does, it looks we play quite similarly lol.
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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  3. Bago

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    Gizmotron, not to offend you, but if you tested this as good as your telemetric 8 spins High/Low/No bets sequences, I understand why you find it works.

    The truth is the highest STD deviation number has no advantage to be the next winner compared to the lowest STD deviation number. Long term tests prove it, not 20 sessions.

    Comparing this with the leader horse which is about to cross the line (highest STD deviation number) and the last horse at the back of the pack at the same moment is completely absurd and silly to say the least.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Cool story - meanwhile you're playing hot numbers on a bias wheel and we would be playing the same numbers.
    It's a shame that my way works on any wheel and doesn't need a defect in order to work.
    'eh oh well - another wasted thread trying to teach you something.
     
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  5. Bago

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    In your dreams only.

    And no you would never play the same numbers as him because you are betting on short term random fluctuation on numbers that do not provide an edge, while he is betting on numbers that are proven biased with extensive charting and visual observation that beats 1/37.

     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I bet on 24 numbers at a time because I have a 63% chance of winning each spin. I tend to reach my win goal inside of two candlesticks of a win/loss chart. There are things that are so common to Roulette that it does not take a strong trend to have a net win, three-and-out. A single hot number win could take all day on a real wheel at a casino. Both this and hot numbers is nothing more than guessing anyway. If you track the effectiveness at how well you are doing at guessing then that's your edge. It has nothing to do with long term or short term odds. I could easily win three or four three-and-out sessions inside of the average hot number session's number of spins. I would earn more at it too. I'm very good at 24 numbers. I'm not so good at discovering the best typical switch points with hot numbers. I know this much though. If I can find those normal or average points for just a single number at a time then it would be easy to track two independent hot numbers and treat them accordingly. That might pay better than 24 numbers does. I just don't know.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's easy to assume that my software simulation is faulty.

    As you can see, there can't be execution errors:
    Code:
    on mouseUp
       put the text of field "f1" into h1
       put the text of field "f3" into h3
       put the text of field "F4" into winTotal
       put the text of field "F2" into totalSpins
       put the text of field "f99" into betAmount
       repeat with i = 1 to h3
          put random(38) into hSpin
          if h1 = hSpin then
             add (36 * betAmount) to winTotal
          end if
          subtract betAmount from winTotal
          add 1 to totalSpins
          put "X" after line hSpin of field "mainText"
       end repeat
       put winTotal into field "f4"
       put totalSpins into field "f2"
    end mouseUp
    It must get very old trying to defend this long-run equals short-run crap.

    You can't go to a casino and play a long-run session of Roulette. The very hottest number tends to switch out at around 450 spins. There are always numbers that try to replace the hottest number at around each third of the way at 150/300 spins respectively. There is no such thing as common. Every session is different. Yet to you, all sessions are the same.
     

  8. Bago

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    Gizmotron, you thought recently that betting against an 8 even chance sequence with a progression was the HolyGrail. Coming from a new roulette player, this could be forgiven, but as TurboGenius, you both are still stuck with gambler's fallacy theories, even after 30 years of "study" lol what a decline, I advise you to take an appointment with a neurologist, you may suffer from Alzheimer disease :(
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hey Bago-stuff, if you read the first sentence of that thread you will read that "This is a joke." I wrote it as another deliberate baloney festival. I'm satisfied with my 24 number methods and know that it's possible to play the very slow hot numbers methods. Why leave a good thing for an unknown thing?
     
  10. johndexter

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    Hi,Bago..............do you ever hear off Kelly old Advantage player from way back?
     
  11. Bago

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    No I don't, you can try to email him at [email protected]
     
  12. Bago

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    Also a guy from the south-east of France who played with him: [email protected] and you ask for Jean-Philippe.
     
  13. johndexter

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    Thanks Bago:)
     
  14. Bago

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    No problem, just say you got the informations from the GamblersGlen forum archives. Thanks :D
     

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  16. bozadj

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    Damn... Looks like I can't lose... I tried a hell aggressive progression... damn... It just seems there's no way to lose when you play numbers which hit and don't play / remove numbers which do not. Just get outside of your pathetic box.
     

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  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Oh no - played a pattern system and got into 3rd - remember, patterns don't work - you can't predict a pattern in a random game of independent spins.... it's just impossible.
    It makes my wonder why the nay-sayers and anti-system people spend so much time telling people that ways that work actually don't work. Does it hurt them in some way ? I can't see how.
    Do they just believe it's not possible and then go with it until the end of time instead of just trying ?
    I'll never get it.


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  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    How about those Parx slot system players? They're really killing it! 35million I think. You should try and learn what they're slot systems are! LOL!!!
     
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    So this is deferent system from the Hot number System.... or i read that wrong ???
     

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