Roulette Cold vs. overdue?

In your opinion, what is the MAIN difference between a cold number and an overdue number?

Ken

 

There is no such thing as an overdue number. There is such a thing as a cold number that lasts from 450 spins to 600+ spins. A cold number is a fucked date.

 

I kinda agree. My lottery web site has 3 categories >> hot, cold, overdue. Thats what got me to thinking about it.

My beliefs are >> hot, average, cold.

Ken

 

"Random has limits"

 

I agree. It is confined to a box of limits. The far out limits are very far flung, like a 30 spin sleeping dozen or 20 Reds or Blacks in a row. They happen. Those of us that really play see them once in a while.

 

This answer was given at R30. I thought it was pretty decent >>

"Cold is statistically speaking... overdue is your opinion".

 

Watch out Turbo.....over at RF, they are now posting links CONFIRMING where you live. (rofl)

Ken

 

lol

I had to go look dammit - that's too funny.

 

I think thats a nice precis for something much more complex.....however, we will end up just saying that for simplification in the end.

Due to probability, air in a sealed room will tend towards being evenly distributed. Its not that the atoms move that way, but the fact that the overwhelming configurations of every atom is one of an even looking distribution. All the other combinations, like half the room with gas and half without, are possible, but there are billions upon billions more layouts than that rather undistributed one, so that is most likely.

It could happen, but it is more likely to be evenly distributed.....or the probability of half the room being gas and half not is so mind blowingly tiny, it is negligible.

Random doesnt so much have limits as the extremes (sleep for 1000, 48 reds etc) are so unlikely, they can be ignored.

There is no need to pause with your hand on the door handle, turn to the guy next to you and say "wait....what if this is that time all the air is in one corner"

There is no need to worry about no.5 hitting 37 times in a row.

This isnt Elvis being seen working as a pump monkey. This isnt Roswell or Man never landing on the moon.

Its Maths...and disregarding negligible figures is part of Maths.

 

Well said.

Also (on a side note that isn't really related lol)
The "earth" as compared to the universe is so insignificant and small that it's really not measurable when you look at the whole. A person on the earth is even more insignificant and someone measuring the universe and it's contents wouldn't even bother with a person on this planet, the meaningless tiny value that would be - would just be worthless to factor into the whole. - Yet "we" think we're so important, everything revolves around "us".
We even created a "God" (lots of them actually) and believe that they created all of this (and us).
But hey that's a whole 'nother topic. lol

On topic - I always told people to make a list of "things that are possible" and "things that are impossible" and then work their way of play around taking advantage of what we know will happen while avoiding what we know won't.
The naysayers of course easily shoot this down and say "anything can happen". I suppose it's the easy way out.

 

the math guys like to argue that "if you test enough spins all 37 numbers will show in 37 spins"

enough for me to write them off in the real world of play

i said it once and I will say it again....roulette is riddled with statistics, any individual can use those statistics to their advantage

 

yep
They'll say it's voodoo though, magic and misleading to put out blasphemy like that ! lol

 

Just cooling down and finishing a cold beer on the front door step before retiring to bed. Man...its been hot here.
Im quite worried a meteor will hit my lawn because I read one falls to earth every 7 mins and Ive been stood here 6.
Im going in

 

I can't stop laughing.
So I put "near Atlantic City" in my profiles everywhere (actually closer to Parx casino now in PA)
and these super sleuths figured it out ! I'm impressed. They're damn good.
What if I lived IN a casino - still played at the tables like I do now but tested at online
sites and RX, etc.. then I'd REALLY be lying because hell, I LIVE in a casino !!!!!!!
Dopes.
I feel sorry for the people who feel like they have to step up and defend me against these
people - they shouldn't waste their time. When people get bitter and angry they lose the
entire concept of "us vs the casino" and make it into "us vs us" - the casinos must love that.
Like having a war and the allies are fighting eachother the whole time instead of working
together to the actual goal they all should have. But that's how it is.

 

Its like....trying to figure out what city I live in. Geez, what are the clues? (lol)

Ken

 

Well, being your Billy Bob now - I'm going to go out on a limb and say...
Oh wait !!! it's right there in your post under your Occupation !!!!!! Damn...
I'm a TurboDetective ! lol

 

But how does knowing that you won't see number 5 hit 37 times in a row help you in any PRACTICAL sense? It could only do that if you were able to bet that in the next 37 spins the number 5 didn't hit on every spin, and you could bet in ADVANCE that this wouldn't happen. But you can't; you can only bet on one spin at a time. It's the same for any other compound event that "can't happen". The sequential probabilities of such events are infinitesimal, but when they've been PARTIALLY realized, "random has limits" is false because spins are independent. To take another example, suppose you see 30 reds in a row. "aha", you think to yourself, "random has limits, I will never see 40 reds in a row, therefore I'll start betting on black". I think you would agree that this is gambler's fallacy, and in fact it would be rational to believe in such a case that there is something not quite right with this wheel and the best course of action would be to bet red.

The point is, "random has limits" is true enough when considering events with extremely small probabilities, but you can't bet on them directly. In the real world where you can only bet one spin at a time, the limits are irrelevant and "random has limits" is false because if the "impossible" event has already happened (or very nearly), what's already happened has no power to limit what will happen next. Therefore for all practical purposes, "Random has NO limits".

 

There are 2 ways of looking at this.
1. every number has an equal chance to hit, so you cant predict random.
2. every number has an equal chance to hit, so some will repeat.
I dont think of repeats being some kind of way of random being readable. Numbers repeat in a random way. It is a total coincidence that, say, number 5 hits 4 times in 37 spins. Coincidence is the correct word.
Its Binomial distribution and probability that is stacked against those coincidences not happening.

Once you start thinking that all of the most probable repeats in the most probable 24 hits (in 37) could hit just twice so nothing hits 3 or 4 times, (so there is no method that can use repeats), you have entered another world of probability, where around 12 hitting 2 times is 1 way from a multitude of ways.

There are far more ways that wont happen

Again, if you agree that its folly to even consider rare probabilities, you are agreeing that random has limits.

If one cant agree, then one probably also have a fear of flying.

 

Turner,

You started off well, then your logic fell apart.


Saying that random is predictable is retarded. It's an oxymoron, and moronic.

 

Random is never predictable except in some kind of ESP. Even that is not prediction. It is knowing. Here is an absolute fact that will come true. One of the 37/38 numbers on the wheel will hit and pay off to people that are on it in some way. You can never say that anything is due on a next spin if you want to be right. You can say that results among the 12 hottest numbers will hit more often than the group of 12 that contains the coldest numbers. That is a prediction that will continue to verify itself. All you have to do is drop a few numbers from the hot group and add them to the cold group while taking a few numbers from the cold group and add them to the hot group as you go along. It's not prediction.