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Baccarat How does this sound to you guys?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by brokercny, May 19, 2018.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am deploying a very conservative positive up and pull progression . Max never higher than $ 100 then regressing to $ 20

    Never ever replaying any net winnings I rat hole them


    Win goal but NOT win limit $ 160.--. My attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions .



    Greed kills any bankroll.


    Happy Winnings

    ND
     
  2. brokercny

    brokercny Active Member

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    Well if I hit way over 50%, I’m making huge profits and fast. If I hit high 40’s and play for a while, I’ll be in slight profit. The other night i encountered a 7 hand losing streak and still came away winning almost 50 units for the night.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am playing such a CONTROLLED method that I am placing the bets according to a pre determined scenario .



    Losing 3 bets in a row mandates to leave the session . then getting ready for the next session . That`s the reason for winning 2 out of 3 sessions . That`s reason for the 3 equal session bankrolls .


    At a At a $ 50 table Min it amounts to a % 6,000.-- bankroll. It`s a bysiness calculation .



    I am a recreational player since 1981 and was compelled to accept to accept the increased table minimums .



    ND
     
  4. Jimske

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    It's hard to win only 3 out of 25 decisions for sure. That's a 12% hit rate. And if that's all it takes to lose you probably could go a lifetime without getting that. But certainly you're not saying that if you win 4 out of 25 decisions that you have a prophet?

    It's hard for me to understand your use of "net." A 40% win rate over 100 decisions will give you a net loss of 20 bets as well. Certainly that won't ruin your progression. And the reason is that somewhere along the line your progression is showing a profit and you're resetting at the beginning again. Or if not at the beginning then another conceit.

    Not knowing the progression it's hard to know how to analyze it. I certainly think your mentor should have done this. It's easy to figure out what a risk of ruin is

    Here's a pretty worthwhile progression + 1 - 1 flat from Stetson Bailey. Some of you may have already heard of it. It's a modified Dalembert. Like most progressions and probably even yours it does require a certain amount of wins in a row (WIAR) on occasion during the progression to show a profit.

    Simply bet up one unit on a loss and down one unit on a win just like Dalembert. But the difference is after you get 2 WIAR you stay at that unit level until you lose. Then when you lose you go back to up one down one and repeat. Of course you can start the progression all over again anytime you get a win.

    If you try this out with a 200 unit Bank I think you'll find it does pretty well. Try it out but don't forget the commission. Plus there's ways to modify this to make it a little more friendly. One thing you can do is to reduce the size of your bet when you're getting close to a prophet so you're not making a huge bet of $100 for example when you're only down $20.. you could also modify it by freezing your bed size after a certain amount of losses and wait for a win then go back up.

    I use this often but I do use it with some other modifications. And I don't need it 200 unit bankroll to show a profit. Usually about 75 to a hundred units is all you need.

    Too bad broker can't share his progression. We could compare it with other ones. Season baccarat players no that there is no Holy Grail of progressions.
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    To be brief about rat holing a net wins . My first bet at a $ 20 min table is $ 40 . If I win that bet I rat hole the net of $ 40 and regress to $ 20 . . Very simple and that applies to all my net winnings ..



    If I rech my loss limit of 25 % . No problem I still have the net winnings in my pocket .


    I would be foolish enough to have added the winnings as addidtions to th bankroll.

    I cannot reveal the full details from my mentor a very sharp professional gambler .

    ND
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am using a POSITIVE progression. UP and pull and no D`Alembert . This works for me at the Baccarat table as well as with the Even Chances at Roulette.

    As a short term player (attempting to win 2 out of 3 sessions ) I require more than one table game . I am in control at all times : when to start and when to qui .
     
  7. brokercny

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    Just hit for $323, which is 32.3 units in 18 min. Talk about a quick hit and run.
     

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  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Resorts: VLT .= Virtual lottery , a big fake of a racino.. ROFL.



    There are currently only 3 New State casinos : Monticello Schenectady NY, and one in the Finger Lakes in addition to several tribal casinos.



    It`s not your method that made you win . It`s like scratch off lottery ticket . It`sun by the OTB racing corporation with the compyer monster sitting in Schenectady NY.



    It was NOT y our INGENUIITY but the LUCKY next scratch off VLT ticket . Hehehe.



    The Racino for suckers ,
     
  9. brokercny

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    ND sounds like a hater already. I have won 17 out of my last 18 visits in any casino lol
     
  10. John Blerg

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    So the pictures that jerk over at. CC posted of his plays on the baccarat table are fake? Curious as I'm trying to figure out this whole message board thing.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    The Resorts Casino or better Racino in Queens is npy a casino. Only 4 casinos were had been approved by the voters in NEW York . Thre of them have already been built .


    The casino vote took place November 2015 and 2 of them opemd during 2017 and the one in Monticello / Catskills early 2018 .


    They are all B & M AC / LV type B & M casinos . The one in the Catskills is offering daily bus serbice from various boroughs of NYC>
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    John Blerg ,



    What just posted is reality .


    That`s a reason for gambling forums to know what`s what and where .


    Nathan Detroit .
     
  13. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    The pictures were impressive that i saw. I dont know enuf to commemt,
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    brokerny ,




    please do not refer to me as hater . I was glad when I read that you have won. But when I saw the cash out ticket a red flag went up .



    Now you can tell a story that you won a measly $ 312 without tour ingenuity . Anyone could have done it without brain power .


    Happy winnings wherever you play .


    ND
     

  15. John Blerg

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    I was referring to the numerous pictures that was posted at the other Board bet...,cc , the chips and the cash sure look like actual wins to me. I might be wrong on all this?
     
  16. Jimske

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    I was over at Resorts World last year so. I guess they still got a machine delivering real cards with a real shuffle. I personally don't have a problem with that. Then they got a random number generator that they're using also. Is that still the case.

    Broker you won $323.00 and show a $1,300 ticket? What is your bet spread on that progression? It appears that you bought in $1,000.00 . You said it was a quick hit. That would suggest you're making some pretty big bets either up as you win or up as you lose I don't know.
     
  17. Jimske

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    looks can be deceiving. Are you really such a novice or are you chilling for somebody over there?

    Big stacks can mean a lot of things. Like they got into the table with a marker and they're going to the window to pay it off. Pictures of big Stacks don't mean much. I seen guys buy into a table with 5000 cash or even get a marker for that amount and sit there and play $25. LOL.
     
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  18. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    John Blerg,


    There is one of those Racinos 35 miles from where I live but I have no desire to go there. Every VLT is connected to the OTB center in Schenectady serving all racinos in the State of New York .



    The racinos even if they call themselves casinos they are not considered legitimate NY casinos as approved by the legislature .
     
  19. brokercny

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    ND, I only said you sound like a hater. I didn’t actually call you one. I didn’t need or don’t even see the need to send any pics of my winnings, but it was such a short period of time it took to make that $323, I just thought it would be funny to send it. I agree resorts world is a POS casino with a POS atmosphere. But if I’m 25 min away and I can make anywhere from $100-500 in less than 2 hours, why not? I’m still working full time at my job. I’ve learned my lesson from last year. I received a decent amount on my workers comp lawsuit but i wasn’t working. I was hoping baccarat would hold me for years to come without a job. I learned a very hard lesson and I’ve struggled to make money and pay my bills and to live. Now I feel that I am in a great position. I am not going to take it for granted or get too excited and greedy with my situation. I will continue working despite being able to make more money in baccarat. Once I’ve built enough bankroll that I feel comfortable with, I will slowly get away from my job. Honestly, with a little more effort in the casino or racino, I really think I can be there in another month. I’ve already booked Vegas for August 9-15 with a friend and sister. If anyone is willing to meet up, let me know. Oh another thing, last year I was using the martingale method tied in with some of the techniques I’m using now. I’ve busted 4x last year but I still made around 5-6k in profit. The problem was with no other income coming in, I had poor money management. I also stupidly got involved in sports gambling which cost me a little over 5k in less than 2 months. I made 2 trips to Vegas, 1 trip to Utah and buying other crap wasted all my lawsuit money and had to work 5-7 days a week since October. Sorry for the long post but wanted to share a little about my gambling experience.
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    brokerny ,


    Interesting and revealing post of yours .Baccarat is a good choice from all the casino games considering a low house edge. Just by watching the losses the winnings take care of themselves.

    No matter what choice of a casino HAPPY WINNINGS !


    BD
     

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