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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    OMG, have a blast. Dont forget about Lets Talk Winning. There is NOTHING going on over there. I'm ready to give up on that place.

    Ken
     
  2. RouletteGhost

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    democrats?

    you mean shit for brains?
     
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  3. fathead

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    • Violation of Rule #4
    Jae
    Jae, use [Admin Edit: E-mail removed] or as backup use [Admin Edit: E-mail removed] .

    Both are com . Thanks.
     
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  4. gizmotron

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    Actually I don't like people that perpetuate a myth that their race is a pathetic miserable experience. That there is no chance in life so why not complain and sucker any idiots that will support the self inflicted misery that is self ingested. Yes, by all means, feel sorry for me, because my ancestors were exploited by jerks. I respect those people that have left behind the plantation mind space. Take the Red Pill Black. And John, move up to hot dogs. The shape alone will thrill you.
     
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  6. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I have to ask do you like cream on yours or not?
     
  7. gizmotron

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    I cream for I.C.E. "lock that bitch up,"

    Try the Red Pill John, "Black is Beautiful."

     
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  8. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Yeah let her go hang out in Brentwood and see how free she really is when black and white rolls by
     
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  9. RouletteGhost

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    brentwood long island?
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So you serve Koolaid for like minded pleasure seekers to drink. That's totally Hip to the Max. "Drink the Koolaid."
     
  11. Daehun Jung

    Daehun Jung New Member

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    I've been also interested "Random beat random"

    I read older post on another site.

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/19934-flat-bets-on-baccarat/

    Hi, I am a seasoned gambler, I have been playing Baccarat at the Burswood Casino In Perth Western Australia since the place opened 30 odd years ago.
    I love playing the game so I am there seven days a week for three or four hours a day. Now here's the thing, I spent about 15 years trying all sorts of
    fancy betting progressions to try and show a profit to no avail, I would always come back to losing the dreaded table % on average.
    Then I said to myself If you are going to beat this game you have to do it with flat bets, so I turned my attention to the flow of cards and slowly over a
    period of 3 years developed a bet selection method that left me in front over most three hour sessions.
    For the last 10 years playing almost every day for three 80 hand shoes and placing about 25 bets per shoe my results vary from minus 2 units
    to plus 22 units per three shoe session for an average win of 12 units per session.
    Now my problem is that this should not be possible mathematically based on what I have read on this site, so before I move from the main gaming
    floor to the high rollers little spot, I would love for someone to calculate wether my extraordinary success can still fall within the bounds of lady luck
    and the whole thing will fall apart when I start playing the $100 tables!!
    I am interested to hear of anyone else having such a long run of success, or maybe the wizard can make a comment.

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    https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25/probability/how-do-you-beat-say-100-random-decisions-1466224/

    How do you beat, say, 100 random decisions between "PLAYER/DEALER" like they have in Bacarrat or the "PASS/DON'T PASS" from Craps. How can anyone guess, say, 54 and be wrong 46 for a total profit of 8 correct ones?

    Every time, 24/7, in any casino in the world?

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    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/19943-baccarat-can-be-beaten/

    Like I did in my previous thread, I am here just to share an experience. I have been playing baccarat for a few years. And have been trying to find a way to beat the game for a long time. I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. From using progressions, to waiting for triggers, card counting. Nothing has ever worked. Why? Why has always been my question......because when you bet player you have less than a total expectancy of 45% win rate and when betting banker, you have less than a total expectancy of 46% win rate. I know my math explanation is lame, but, basically, what I'm trying to say, is that it is a negative expectancy game. Which is not like I'm saying anything new....but I'm just saying.....you are betting into something that has odds against you every single hand. Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. Ten players does not mean a banker will come. Ten bankers does not mean a player will come. The win expectancy is totally individual each and every single hand. And it is not effected enough based on what cards came out, or what cards are left, to get any higher percentage than the two I said above. Over infinity? However, banker wins 50% of the time. No one will live that long to see that. And, even if you did, you would STILL be behind, because of the banker commission.

    If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. I have created something that is quite remarkable. It's hard to explain, but, the only way I can explain it, is that I am basically, fighting fire with fire. Baccarat is totally random. And, in that randomness, you have less than a 50% chance of hitting banker or player, over the long run. You have a better chance of hitting head or tails 50% of the time over the long run when you flip a coin. This is true because of the way baccarat is designed. Even 50/50, can't be beaten by progressions. HOWEVER.......baccarat uses cards. Cards, since they have a declining element, cannot be 100% random. Being that there are certain rules that create certain outcomes (stands, naturals, and then 6 card draws), a truly random element CAN BEAT a pseudo random element. This may not make sense to most, but, this is what I have created with my partner (my wife) to beat baccarat. We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. We've gone through many periods of winning over 20 hands in a row. I have never seen anything like that. And these win streaks are not on streaks of banker of player or chops, or twos, or threes....no, these are just streaks of winning hands period.

    What is the secret to our success without giving away the system? Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. On paper? We're up over 1000s of units. In real live play? We're up a fortune. I'm not here to give away my system, sell my system,...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.

    First, STAY RANDOM. Don't fall prey to patterns, simple triggers, banker/player tracking.

    Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system.

    Third, if you have to use "triggers" that make you wait for certain "conditions"? Then your system is a loser. You have to be able to bet on every single hand. This way? Your system will face all hand combinations.

    Fourth, which is the most important one, TEST YOUR METHOD THOROUGHLY. Just because you beat a few hundred shoes that you recorded from your local casino, does not mean your system is a winner. Test your method against a simulator. A real baccarat random (rng) simulator. If your system, cannot stay positive, winning over 1000 units, flat betting, against a simulator? Then it will not work. Please people....this is VERY important advice. Too many times, people are in such a rush to use a system that has won fairly often enough in the casino. Listen to me when I say this......even if your system beats the casino shoes for a whole year....they can still lose. Here's why. Random results, force your "system" to face more combinations, much sooner. It's like, putting the house edge in your face all the time. You can be in the casino, and not see enough hand combinations to really see the randomness of the game and the winning rate of the house edge for a long time. Due to weak shuffles, overlaps/clumps in the cards, ..etc. etc. This never happens with simulations. Simulations are harder to beat than live cards because they pit you up against the long term odds much more sooner than live cards. So please, test your method THOROUGHLY against simulations for a long time. And set a number. If your system can BEAT a random baccarat simulator and put you in the positive 1000 or more units? Flat betting? Then you have beaten baccarat.

    I am willing to answer any questions. I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. I want people to win. But, I cannot reveal my system to anyone, for obvious reasons.

    Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!

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    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/26183-baccarat-team/


    Mods? If this thread is inappropriate? Delete or move.

    Experts? If you dont believe baccarat can ever be beaten? ...better yet, if you KNOW it cant based on the math and facts that do not lie, just ignore this and keep it moving. I am not mocking...just want to save us from and avoid, any long debates. Please.

    Those of you who know me from my last thread, and consider me full of it, please ignore as well

    I had a long long lengthy thread on here. That lasted for years. And as much as i was accussed of Nothing more than a system
    Seller trying to bait others.

    2-3 years later. Not one thing was sold by me. Countless pms sent to me asking me to teach them. And i stayed firm
    To my statement in which i made in the beginning. I will never sell or give away my system. Period


    I am
    Now expanding my team. Yes. I have a team of players. And we win every day. Dont ask me how its possible. Again. If you KNOW baccarat cant be beaten? Just ignore this post! Im not here to convince anyone. And i will make no effort to at all. Im here to tell anyone whos willing to accept there are no absolutes in this world, and keep an open mind enough to believe that although baccarat has been proven to be unbeatable by the math? I have found a way to win and have continued to win for several years. I am in no way suggesting i have indefinitely beaten baccarat. I am
    Saying i have been beating it so far and continue to do so. Daily. For years. I am expanding my team. If you want in? Respond via pm. You will pay me nothing upfront. Ever. I am NOT a system seller. Repeat. I am
    Not a system seller.

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    But They did not tell detail method...just hint....like think different.. AND disappeared or banned by forum operator.

    I hope to read your new further post..and want to interchange in intellectual.

    Ignore the idiot.
     
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  12. John Blerg

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    No in California Brentwood, but in Long Island something like Oyster Bay and see what happens when a white car with an green and gold stripe rides by
     
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  13. RouletteGhost

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    Nassau counties finest

    They don’t play

    And we have good delis

    Please note : you can’t troll a long islander :)
     
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    Oh yeah and don't forget good body shops too.
     

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    i figured out how to put him on ignore through the settings. simple as that, now thread is bearable again, dont know why mods let that happen?? but are quick to remove other stuffs... lol
     
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    Don't get it. If randomness is what can be successful simply flip a coin to initiate your next bet with flat bets. Yet Jae has a trigger then technically you would call this a "system" as such - but people say there is no system that can win continuously. However you can strategize to be better placed.
     
  17. mr j

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    There sure are some "new" members (cough) lately.

    Ken
     
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    I believe randomness is a powerful thing and the strategy I use involves it, but i have never and i dont see it ever winning 20 hands in a row. it doesnt make any sense. ive had winning streaks of 4-8 with randomness and i really cant see it winning much more than that.
     
  19. John Blerg

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    4 (exhales) 20 (inhales) 420 method!!!!!!!, of course.:)
     
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  20. Jae

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    I’ve contacted everyone that left me a contact method. Looking forward to here your thoughts.
     
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